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Getting rid of Smartphones.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    I'd much rather be sat next to someone on the train using their phone, than folding and unfolding one of those horrendous broadsheet newspapers of old !

    I love my phone.

    See something cool you want to share with a friend or family member. Snap a picture and send. Helps me stay connected to family abroad.

    Don't know where you are or where you're going. Navigation apps.

    Instant access to your money via features like tap and online banking.

    Music, films and books at your fingertips. Spotify is amazing. Pretty much any song in the world you fancy, instantly !

    Settle an argument or simply answer a question. An encyclopaedia in your pocket.

    So many health and sport apps. Pedometers, heart rate monitors, sleep monitors.

    I'd say the golden rule though is enhance your life WITH it, don't live your life ON it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭squigglestrebor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,636 ✭✭✭✭Rikand




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,875 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Phones arnt the problem, their users are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The only time I really care about people using smart phones, is when I'm approaching a car on the road, and I can see the oncoming drivers eyes are looking down while their head is facing me.

    I see it so often nowadays. I don't fancy one of them taking me out. Drivers can't even put them down whilst driving.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭sprucemoose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Social media plays a big part. Delete all your social media accounts, I bet after a few months people won't even notice and may even be happier.

    I am old so never really got into the whole social media craze, had a go at Twitter for the sports but quickly tired of it. I've a smartphone and as others have said i'td be hard to give it up now with WhatsApp, google maps, online banking to name three important aspects for me anyway. I've family scattered around the world and I get to speak to them every week, see pics of my nieces and nephews. I cringe when I see teenagers walking down the street glued to their phones. Phone Zombies myself and my son call them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Seeing people eating meals with their familys and partners and all on phones is pathetic .

    Why do they bother going for a meal or why do they bother having a partner or children, marry their iphone instead and stay in their bedroom for the rest of their lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    It's all down to the adults, we have a simple rule, no electronic devices allowed at meal times, ever. We have two boys 11 and 12 they are getting to the age where we are thinking about getting them smart phones. Mostly for safety reasons, calling them when they are out with friends etc. Myself and my wife had our eyes opened after watching that documentary "The Social Dilemma" and we have decided to ban all social media until they are at least 16 years old. I know we will get some pushback on this in the coming years but we won't budge, we pay the phone bills so we make the rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Nooo I am havin a ball with craiyon.com 😭

    promise to be smarter. Might even use it as a phone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    The thing about smartphones is that while they can come across as a distraction at times, they are also pretty useful when you need them and I think that is the deciding factor for me to keep using a smartphone. In fact, yesterday I had to use my Maps app to navigate my way to Marlay Park because I was unsure of the directions I was taking. I'm quite thankful that I had it on my smartphone because I might have made a wrong turn or gotten lost. It's moments like those when you can really appreciate smartphones I think.

    That being said, I wouldn't be using a smartphone 6 hours a day. That would be overkill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I would like the idea of a 16yr old age limit for my kids, but apparently I have been told the kids need a phone when going to secondary school.

    Yet to know why exactly, but will be asking. Anyone know why they would need one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Live and let live I say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Smartphones exist to enrich Apple, Samsung, Huaweii, not to benefit people. People use them because they have benefits but they have many many drawbacks but we love progress and we favour benefits over negatives so this is what we've got. They have and will really ruin a lot of what makes us human but they're just one of the factors.



  • Posts: 777 [Deleted User]


    Spotify is the one App I can't do without. The only other Apps I'd use on a daily basis would be Twitter and Revolut.

    I find once I put my phone out of site when at home I tend to forget about it, I'll then read a book or watch TV. But when its in your eye site you feel you have to reach for it to check something random every few minutes.

    I'm glad I got to experience life without having a smartphone. Travelled for a whole year with just a basic phone for keeping in touch with my family and friends. I feel sorry for the generations growing up knowing nothing more than Tik Tok and Instagram.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭angel eyes 2012


    This literally happened to me while I was on the ferry to Inisbofin a couple of years ago. A group of Irish musicians took out their fiddles, bodhrans etc., started set dancing and invited everyone to join in! It was actually brilliant to watch.

    I think there is a happy balance to be achieved with the use of smartphones. What I am seeing more of is a push for the digitalisation of services by both public and private sector, and yes, sometimes these improvements result in a better service for citizens, e.g. Leap Card, motor tax but in other ways, corresponding customer service levels decrease, in circumstances where you might want to converse with an actual human being.

    Try calling the Passport Office, or flying from Dublin Airport without delay, try attending a bank to speak to a human or try calling Eir with a query. All the examples above have introduced increased technologies throughout their processes - often pushing the use of apps but you are left frustrated with the poor service and instead pushed to use the bot functionality resulting in long delays and poor services.

    20 years ago there would've been uproar if phones weren't answered in most organisations. Now you are charged premium rates for the privilege and no-one bothers to answer. The staff are probably all on their smartphones anyway....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭NiceFella


    Was Just about to say that and I'd include You Tube in that as well. The suggested videos if randomly followed end up with some very strange "content"

    Their have been many studies on the use of negative engagement to hook viewers which is having a very messed up effect on young people.

    People give Facebook a hard time but GoogIe are probably worse for this. These two company's are too dependent on free data from customers. They literally use models that augment people's behavior to keep them engaged. It's crazy that they're even legal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    I agree with everything said, but I still spend hours on my phone, mainly for reading and my online shop. It's very handy to get a notification telling you that someone has just sent you money for being creative! Twenty years ago I'd be laughed at making and selling bog oak pendants. Now it's cool and earthy and green.

    Mod: No advertising, unless you speak with the Boards office first.

    Post edited by New Home on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Eduard Khil


    Ah the auld flash fleadh to bejaysus ti's a sight to behold



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭frosty123


    'friendly Irish' ??

    Did you not tell him it's a myth😶



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Ekerot


    Downgrading to the AGM M7 from my old Xiaomi smartphone. It does have apps and smartphone stuff so to speak, but much more locked down and slim.

    Dealing without the Ulster Bank app will be a pain, but I have revolut for the time being.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,786 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    did anyone actually listen to the interview? He said more in favour of smartphones and the things that they will be able to do moreso than anything else. He gives out that theres tech to increase internet speeds that arent being released to the public. I didnt hear him 'saying smartphones were becoming a huge distraction' etc etc though? Any idea whereabouts in the interview that he says that? Im just wondering as he seems to be quite pro smartphone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Even before smartphones people would play basic games on Nokia phones , download ringtones, I think it would be hard to be a young person with no smartphone, they use it to socialise, take photos, get a cab, the problem now every company expects you to download an app

    , people used mp3 players or Sony Walkman, radios before smartphones existed

    I think even poor kids now have Xbox, Sony consoles and large flat screen tvs

    Young people use smartphones to study , get a job, socialise, message friends, date,

    I know some people that live in a rural area, thier only connection to the web is using a smartphone, broadband is not avaidable in some areas

    A smartphone is not a luxury item some country's have 500meg Internet very fast fibre , the tech for broadband optical fibre is well. Known at this point it's just its expensive to install cables to every building and to dig up roads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    I definitely spend too much time on my phone, but a lot of that time is when I'm in work and/or using my phone to listen/watch a pod/vodcast



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Weaned myself off Facebook, twitter and reddit. Never really liked Instagram. It really is mental how addictive they make those apps.

    Still sticking with trusty old boards though. There no fear of them implementing a super addictive algorithm - they're still struggling with the clocks going forward in April



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If you want to stop people being anti-social you will have to go back before newspapers

    Probably before printing because pamphlets were a thing too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,950 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I was happy enough with a 'limited' smartphone -> one that had access to basics apps like bus times, weather and maybe something like aertel. Playing music \ podcasts.

    If I wanted to do some proper surfing needed a computer.

    Having the entire internet and social media available 24 x 7... doesn't really feel like progress.

    The genie is out of the bottle though.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,016 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I don't know if it's an age thing but as time has gone on, I feel like it's becoming more and more obvious what these things are really for. Obviously, they are businesses first and foremost but we can really see the outrage peddling, the manipulation and the targeted advertising ramped up to maximum.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    I don't think the issue is smartphones, rather people's inability to be with their own thoughts, young people in particular seem to be completely incapable of just sitting on a train etc watching the world go by. As others have mentioned smartphones are incredibly convenient, we just need to learn to moderate our usage of non value add apps like Instagram etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭monkeyactive


    Hi , resurrecting an old thread here but wondering how you got on with the AGM M7?

    I'm looking for a dumbphone that can run whatsapp . I see the agm m7 is android 8.1 and I'm hoping whatsapp rubs OK on it.



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