This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

Motors are fine if they lasted this long and the battery was probably already refurbished. Wouldn't call them a ticking timebomb, there will be plenty of outfits that will be able to drop the pack, open it up, replace a dodgy module with a good one from the open market and make sure all is singing and dancing again for a couple of grand. Wouldn't bother me.

Yes of course, the Renault is even worse as it can not even fast charge, only slow charge at 3.3kW. Still this would make it a perfect second family car for many people. Range is limited to about 60km in winter though, so if you need two cars for daily longer commutes than 60km each, it won't suit. I don't know any family in the greater Dublin area where both partners have a commute of over 60km though and half the population lives here. But for those people this car obviously doesn't suit.

The majority of cars on the road in Ireland today do not even average 60km per day (which is 22k km per year). And the overwhelming majority of second family cars doesn't even do half that.

Not sure what your question is @Phil.x ?

The most degraded battery EVs are early Nissan Leaf and Renault Fluence Z.E. from around 2011-2012, the worst ones of these you could find in Ireland have about 50-60km winter range, in other words they only have about 55-60% of their original battery left. But check that for yourself before buying.

Even if they would get to just 30-40km range, that would be plenty for a school run / local shopping car or even for many people's commute. I live in Lucan and it's 15km into Dublin city centre. And I'd say there are a few hundred thousand cars in Ireland, still on the road, that do less than that sort of daily range. So maybe the range won't be enough for the current owner. They can sell to a new owner who needs less range

There simply is such a shortage of working second hand EVs that the cars will not be scrapped for a long time to come if they still work, no matter how short the range. And if they do eventually get scrapped, the scrap value is considerable because the batteries are also in huge demand with enthusiasts (using them for campervans, home storage, off grid cabins, EV conversions, etc.), they literally are fighting over these paying (in my view) silly money for them on the likes of eBay

That's why I bought mine. We both mostly work from home and we rarely need 2 cars at the same time. But when you get an opportunity to buy a second family car that will cost you not a cent in total cost of ownership over a number of years, then you go for it, right? 😁

The Fluence Z.E. is a very pleasant car to own to and comfortable car to drive and the top spec dynamique has nice touches like window blinds. It is probably the slowest EV ever made after the Zoe, but if you don't mind that nor the small range, it's a goodun (provided of course you buy the car with the battery owned)