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General Race Thread 2022 **spoilers**

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  • #962
    [Deleted User]
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    Movistar lads are really getting to lafay and Kenny 😂



  • #963
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,631 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Delighted for Verona but the power Roglic showed at the end of that stage was frightening. Looked better than ever today.



  • #964
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,256 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119188489#Comment_119188489

    He put 20-30m into O'Connor in about 5 seconds, and he was on the limit trying to keep up, unreal power.

    Vingy-go looked great as well, reckon he could have stayed with roglic if he had the freedom to do so.



  • #965
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    I was wrong about Roglic. He is up for this and is looking good for July. So hope for a challenge after all. Pity about Eddie. I'm still mystified as to why Jumbo didn't send Vingegaard as leader to a different grand tour. Surely he could have competed for a Giro or Vuelta win.



  • #966
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,631 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119188561#Comment_119188561

    Its clear that the Tour is all that matters to them. The team they sent to the Giro was awful.

    You could have said the same as you say there about Sepp Kuss.



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  • #967
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,256 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119188561#Comment_119188561

    TDF is starting in Copenhagen, Vingegaard is danish...



  • #968
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,191 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119187990#Comment_119187990

    I'd say he is happy out for as long as it lasts with regards to his pay. I certainly would be.



  • #969
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,546 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119188621#Comment_119188621

    Kuss doesn't want to be a leader iirc from interviews with him or his DS.



  • #970
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,783 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119187990#Comment_119187990

    At this rate they’re staring down the barrel of relegation unless Bevin or Woods can save them with more points, I wouldn’t be surprised if Lotto pull something out of the bag at the tour



  • #971
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119189062#Comment_119189062

    It has to be the right people getting wins/points places at the right races though doesn't it, it's not a case of anyone scoring will do as they only count the points from the top 10 riders in the team or something similarly convoluted. The way the points are awarded at different levels is bonkers.

    60 points for Verona today as opposed to the winner of the 1.Pro race in Belgium getting 200 and his team mate taking 150 for second place. A stage at the tour is 120 points and the top 5 score each day. 1000 points for the over all.



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  • #972
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,256 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    De lie has got something crazy like 800 points for Lotto in the last few months, been winning or placing in a heap of belgian races



  • #973
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119188621#Comment_119188621
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119189046#Comment_119189046

    Kuss is nowhere near being a GC contender. Maybe in the future but he has no time trial as well as lacking consistency. Kuss going to the Tour makes sense as support for Roglic as a pure climber and to give him his due possibly one of the best climbers in the world on his day. All the more reason to give Vingegaard leadership in another grand tour but I take retalivity's point about Denmark. Not to mention if he goes better than Roglic then he might podium again or if shock horror Pog has a bad tour (hard to imagine but can happen to the best) a win.



  • #974
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119189573#Comment_119189573

    Well Rog could crash at some point during the Tour (not an unlikely scenario) so it'd be good to have Vingegaard as a GC backup



  • #975
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,631 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119189573#Comment_119189573

    Kuss finished eighth in the Vuelta last year while busting his backside for Roglic. How high would he finish as team leader of a decent team do you think?



  • #976
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,256 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Kuss has said a few times he doesnt want the pressure of going for gc...much happier busting himself for someone else then following wheels after roglic takes off. Reminds me of bardet abit, will not win a gc with a lot of TT, but is capable of any moutain stage. hes happy supporting and having a chance at stages, and jumbo probably paying him plenty for that



  • #977
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119189938#Comment_119189938

    Good support climbers will often finish higher almost by default because they go fairly deep into the mountain stages so I probably wouldn't give his 8th in the Vuelta as much weight as you might (Odd Christian Eiking finished 11th) but I suppose if he peaked for a grand tour with minimal TT'ing then he would have a good shot. I would still worry about his consistency which may be mitigated by good prep and peaking at the right time. Still wouldn't see him as a big time GC candidate vs Vingegaard. Maybe down the road if he changes his mind about it himself.



  • #978
    retalivity
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    Eddie in the break, has de plus with him as well



  • #979
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    Pierre Rolland in the break again even though I don't think he needs points for the KOM jersey, been some race for him this week haven't seen him this up for it in a few years now.



  • #980
    retalivity
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    Break dont seem to have a hope here, only 90 seconds up the road and 55k & 2 climbs to go



  • #981
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    Looks like Dunbar might have lost the time yesterday to have a crack at the stage today...



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  • #982
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,783 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Shame Eddie couldn’t keep away but the peloton are gonna swallow up that break pretty quick



  • #983
    retalivity
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    Jumbo Visma domination really



  • #984
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    They don't usually attack so far out do they?



  • #985
    Squidgy Black
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    Rog has to let vingegogo get the stage win surely



  • #986
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,631 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Jumbo Visma are frighteningly strong. Pog will have to be at his very best to beat them.

    You'll have Roglic, Vingegaard, Kuss, Kruijswijk, Bouwman, Benoot, Van Aert, Laporte and one of Oomen or Dennis I think. I doubt they'll bring Dumoulin as he's shown nothing this year.

    I think they'll bring Laporte to enhance Van Aert 's chances of the green. I think they'll want yellow and green this year. Even if Pog wins it'd be a little success if they got green.



  • #987
    retalivity
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    Only 8 in the tour team. Doubt Bouwman will go, after the giro, so its probably Roglic, Vingegaard, Kuss, Kruijswijk, Benoot, Van Aert, Laporte & Dennis.

    Pog will probably have McNulty, Bennett, Majka, Soler, possibly even Almeida, so not too shabby. TBH though, i don't think Pog needs anyone, other than to get him bottles!



  • #988
    eagle eye
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193578#Comment_119193578

    Isn't it 22 teams and 188 cyclists?

    I remember two years ago Pog just sat on the back of Jumbo Visma, it was like he used them as his team.

    Post edited by eagle eye on


  • #989
    [Deleted User]
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    Ha ha ha morto for Bettiol 😂



  • #990
    retalivity
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    Crazy stuff in the baby giro, Hayter's little brother was 3 mins behind 2 of FDJ's wonderkids with 30km to go, still ended up winning by nearly 5 minutes!

    https://twitter.com/giroditaliau23/status/1536333929564852225


    https://twitter.com/giroditaliau23/status/1536348185593098240




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  • #991
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119194090#Comment_119194090

    Back then I think ROG made the mistake of thinking it would be nice to let his young little countryman tag along for white.



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