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The Great Big Lawnmower Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,374 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    So lets try and tease this out. The light still works and lets you know the grass box is full but you don't hear the buzzer working?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    tbh i can't recall if the 'box full light' comes on but the other lights on the dash work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    You got that right. He may not have the skills. Its an electronic board. If he spends two hours futility probing something he doesn't really understand, he can't add that charge to the bill for just replacing the board. Even a trained electronics tech would confine signal tracing to inputs and output to the buzzer, and some quick checks on joints. Soldered pins on cable connectors can become dry due to vibration, stress etc., or pins can become corroded. It's always a good start to go over them with a hot iron. Unless you have the exact diagram of the board components and can understand the logic of the buzzer actuation (e.g, it won't buzz unless the blade is engaged etc), its nigh impossible to signal trace. There are probably plenty of good boards from scrap machines in workshops all over the place, finding one is the problem. Have you been quoted a price for the board?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,374 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    What I am trying to say is that if the box full light goes on and off as it should then we aren't looking any other place for a problem than on the mainboard.

    In that case either the buzzer itself has gone or one of the few components on the main board that drive it (provide the correct electrical power) are damaged or have poor soldered connections.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Comer1


    I haven't had to consider even looking at a lawnmower in 24 years as my Honda HDR 536c has served me so well in that time. But now it looks like it might be dead. I came across this Victor WYZ22H locally for around €600 which I thought was a good price for a Briggs and Stratton 675 engine and an aluminum deck. Does anyone have any experience of these Victor law mowers and any recommendations or warnings? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Can "mineral oil" beused in lawnmower engines? My engine takes 10w-30 according to the manual and the only grade I see selling locally is "mineral oil"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    Will you be satisfied with the step down from a highly engineered professional class mower with hydrostatic drive and blade clutch to a mid budget machine, albeit a solid and well spec'd one. There's a reason you got 24 year out of the Honda, you do get what you pay for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    Mineral oil is old school oil, probably well suited to a lawnmower engine, but the modern synthetic oils are developed for and pretty much mandatory in the newer auto engines. You can use synthetic in a mower engine, it won't disimprove performance, it will be more tolerant of longer change intervals, with a longer life (if the mower has an oil filter). Plenty of 5-30 synthetic in autoparts stores or online, in fact its getting rare to see semi synthetic on offer as the number of older engines suitable for it diminish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Exactly, I have to balance that against spending well over twice the price. I was also considering the Snapper NX-90v



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    I have been given a ride on lawnmower that needs work, got it started but problem with clutch/brake pedal, i press it in but have to bring it up with my foot, so looked underneath and a spring as come off ,spring looks intact ,it is still connected one end now I'm not sure where the other connects too, i can see what looks like a threaded nut and bolt, these seems to move freely, not sure how or if it connects to this ,see photos.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And I suppose that unlike modern cars which are riddled with electronic and computerized gizmos , but have OBD readers sockets to find faults, the ride on mowers do not have OBD???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,281 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    Select your J92 parts diagram from here, if you figure out what year it is from the labels. It might be some help.

    http://www.lawn-king.co.uk/books/parts_books_mowers/

    It's just a question of hitching that return spring on to its retainer, to pull the pedal upright. The return pressure from the drive belt tensioner if its a manual model, not Hydro, or from the brake disc, may not be sufficient to push back the pedal, especially if it's joints are a bit stiff. Blow out all the crap if you have leaf blower, apply some wd40 to the hinged areas. There's a handbrake mechanism in that assortment of linked levers which locks the release pressure on the manual clutch belt and the brake, but the foot pedal is free to travel back up when released under it's own spring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    The only OBD on a ride on mower is the On-Board-Dope who has to go around in ever decreasing circles cutting grass, in perpetuam in this life and maybe the next....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    So mowing lawn for first time in a few weeks and it was quite high. When edging I hit a stone pretty bad (not sure where it came out off) but now the right hand blade doesnt spin on the mower, but the left one does. Sthil Mt5112z is my mower, so is it easy to drop the deck etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Well in my 12 mth old Honda 2417, it has a mobile phone charger, automatic speed control, auto matic headlights and an hour meter, plus as many dash lights as a car when you turn on the key.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    Mine has holder for two cans. Deep enough to put a few ice cubes in the bottom. On Board Drinks cabinet. It has has cruise control also, I suppose next step is autonomous mowing which is kind of what robot mowers do. Could you fit a wireless web cam to the mower, and steer it from an app?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    The bad news is you may have broken the timing belt, which carries the drive from the left to the right hand blade. Its easy to drop the stihl deck, no tools required, just pull two pins at the back lifters, pull and lock back the spring loaded belt tensioner, lock front wheels to the right, move the mower back a little to disengage front lifter, then peel off the drive belt, but...

    Before you drop the deck, first remove the top belt plactic cover. If the timing belt is broken, it's replaceable with the deck in situ, a little bit of work. Tensioning is important, without a tension meter you'd be safe enough to reset the tensioner back to its original setting, and ypu must set the synchronous blades at right angles to each other, but if in doubt, get it done in a shop. While its possible that the blade spigot pins sheared off, the blade would not be stationary and would rotate out of sync. Good news is here's the belt at reasonable price. https://lawnmowerpartsonline.ie/product/timed-deck-belt-viking-mt5112zl-6170-764-0900-a-61707640900a

    €65 is good, the one for the 6127 ZLcan be as high as €150. I done exactly this first mowing of 2020, caught a poplar root that had extended upwards over the winter. It was hell trying to get a new belt in the middle of full lockdown.

    You'll need to check the blade for damage, especially if it might have bent upwards on one tip. Lift the deck high and reach in and spin it. Also observe the spigot to make sure the shaft is not bent.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Thanks but couldn't find where the attachment on the diagram on there, it does drive but using my foot to bring pedal back up again, if anyone on here has same model wouldn't mind taking a photo of it would appreciate it, this machine was left over winter uncovered on grass outside, i clean battery terminals up and it started on 4/5 turns of the key couldn't believe it, and drives well apart from the clutch pedal not returning using my foot to bring it back, have not put blades on belt looks to bad. ps that first photo isn't actually the machine that's a library picture ,my one is same model but looks a whole lot rougher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yeah, I forgot to mention the drinks holder...😎 As for autonomous mowing, why not? The technology is there definitely. If they can control drones with two joysticks , why not the same system controlling a mini-power steering set up in a mower? While you watch it via a dash cam, and steer / drive accordingly from the comfort of the armchair ? But cash wise, it would be prohibitive , better to buy an autonomous mower, and let it do the job for you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,374 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    There have been remote control lawn mowers for a long time, mainly used to cut areas like motorway embankments

    Or you can DIY it

    https://macsources.com/how-to-build-a-remote-controlled-lawnmower-never-push-a-mower-again/

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    and what if the remote plays up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,374 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    On the commercial ones they stop, on the DIY ones its anyone's guess :-)

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭bakerbhoy


    AL-KO T 22-110.0 HDH-A

    looking for opinions on these two. Orchard type areas to maintain. Not show lawn. General grassed .

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    Have the Stihl 5112Z for a couple weeks now and as I said earlier in thread it's my first venture into ride-ons. (@KrombopulosMichael sorry to hear you've run into bother with yours.)

    I'm still very happy with the machine. It has been fairly put through its paces at this stage between mowing in both collecting and mulching modes as well as towing quite a few heavy enough loads of topsoil and 804. I have to say that it has really impressed so far as a well built and powerful enough lawn tractor.

    One question I have, yesterday on a couple of occasions when starting the engine it backfired with a bang on starting up. Just wondering what that's about if anyone has any ideas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    Just an opinion based purely on specs, the 110cm/13hp Alko is €1800 less than the 103cm equipped/12hp husky. The Alko is a ruggedised version of their T22 bagger mower, about €400 extra for the hard-core 3 blade mulch deck and tractor style rear tyres. The Husky cut is a tad low at 7cm, the Alko at 9cm gives better clearance over roots, and overgrown grass. Husky is a bit under powered for mulching 103cm. The Alko has an extra horse, but at a wider 110cm cut it will need it, though the special 3 blade cutter might be better able to cope.

    For the price of the Husky you could get this serious zero turn Snapper, with the pro 8 series B&S engine churning out 47NM of torque, 24hp at 3600rpm. Huge 132cm cut (maybe too wide for some parts of an Orchard?), the zero turn will radius around trees with no missed bits. Extra high max cut of 11cm ideal for overgrown grass. Side discharge, mulch kit may be extra.

    http://www.cgeltd.ie/product/snapper-ztx350-52-zero-turn-lawnmower/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    Most likely a weak spark on one cylinder preventing ignition on some compressions, which result in unburnt mix igniting when expelled into a hot exhaust. I'm assuming its exhaust backfire, not a pre ignition on the inlet side. Check the plugs, the sparkplug cables for tightness, check for damage at the coil end, if you fancy removing the cowling. Its possible one coil has failed or is compromised, and is not producing sufficient high voltage at the plug. If you have a spare loose spark plug, you can turn over the engine and alternately check the spark at the gap. If one side looks 'hotter' and more regular than the other it points to a weak spark. One or a couple of these are useful to compare ignition strength and consistency. You pull off the lead at the plug and insert this inline. A neon pulses with the spark.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭deezell


    Just realised it's a brand new machine. If it persists you'll need to invoke the warranty. It could be contaminated petrol too, causing misfires. Make due your next fill is clean, from a clean petrol container, no raindrops or moisture or or other residue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Have a Husqvzrna ride on with a Kohler engine which recommends 10w 30 oil.

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    Have this stuff already, wondoring if it good to use?

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