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Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Derry are a hardy team, they will be tough to beat for anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Is there need for all these speeches not like they won the world cup



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    Must say, the spitting doesn't bother me at all. I doubt any of the players give it a second thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,800 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I assume Brolly is frothing at the mouth at the standard of football on show given he was so vociferous against Gallagher when he was over Donegal



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,300 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Didn’t Anthony Tohill young lad was on bench. Image of him made me feel old!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Seriously the amount of over exaggeration going on, "jim mcguinness the worst thing that ever happened to donegal football"????

    Thats the most ridiculous statement ive seen in a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,036 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Congrats to them and occasions like that are keeping the provincials alive

    Can't see them going beyond the AI QFs but never know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,701 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    32 scores over about 95 minutes of football on a nice, temperate day…hmmmmm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Derry didn't live up to the hype no getting away from that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,300 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Ya the 2 boys and o'rourke earning a very handy few quid today off the backs of amateur players yet they denigrate and insult them with remarks like "brutal".

    They'd want to tone down the rhetoric A LOT. .



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jim mcguinness was the worst thing that ever happened to donegal football, yet he is held up like a god here. Since he came along, most clubs adopted his tactics. You reap what you sow.

    That is one of the great false narratives of recent GAA history.

    Yes the 2011 6-9 loss to Dublin was awful, be he then learned that you could not win anything that way.

    The 2012 team were a different animal altogether, hard fast running, quick counter attacks and lots of scores.

    They were a revelation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 FreeChocco



    Donegal have played much better, attacking football under Bonner than they ever did with Gallagher so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,573 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Henry Downey's lad started. Not sure if there are any other links with 1993.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭shockframe


    It wasn't a great game but not going all out to win is hardly unique to gaelic football.

    Most of the last few champions leagues and Euro Finals have been appaling but there's a large dose of irony in people on social media who slate Gaelic Football in general have themselves down as Chelsea or Liverpool fans when they have won utter turgid finals over the years.

    I do enjoy Soccer but there is incredible double standards whenever a bad Football game happens.

    Back to Ulster though surely Donegal would be best served getting a new man in. They are starting to resemble Waterford Hurling with a talented squad but completely stifled by their approach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Totally, mcguinness knew to win the ultimate prize he had to build on a strong defence. He built that in 2011 and they had an awesome attack playing incredible football in 2012. He brought through a host of talented players from their u21 success and added them to senior talent like lacey. Their fitness and prep was off the charts also.

    Everyone that denigrates mcguiness and donegal's success forget one very simple fact, they scored more than everyone of their opponents during that all ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,628 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭supernova5


    how does the All Ireland series work out from here, ? I take it the 4 provincial winners are now in the quarter finals, how does the drawings pan out for all the remaining teams?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    back in the supposed golden years of know it alls like o'rourke and spillane they handpassed the ball into the net. And split each others heads open regularly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    There's 2 much point scoring in rte analysis.

    The BBC shows how it should be done , 3 analysyts who clearly gel

    Mind u the BBC commentary wasn't great



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,131 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Finding it nearly impossible to even explain what game plan or tactics Bonner had to try and win this game.

    Either the players never followed the plan they were given or there was no plan to go and win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Definitely, rte coverage needs a big shake up, mcstay, morrissey, o'rourke, spillane. They're all old and stale and have very little understanding of todays game, patterns of play, positional changes etc. They never ever talk about the evolution of s&c or stats in deciding the outcomes of games.

    Spillane and o'rourke in particular make a nice bit of dough mostly slagging off the efforts of amateur players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,514 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    A round of qualifiers next week brings it didn’t to 4, then an open draw against the provincial losers, but I think there cannot be repeat ties (eg Armagh v Donegal).

    The games involving the provincial winners will then be structured so that the winners of the Donegal and Roscommon qualifiers go up against Dublin and Kerry, with the winners of the Linerick and Kildare qualifiers going up against Derry and Galway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭supernova5




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,947 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I know that handpassing, playing the percentages and the patient/slow build-up is common in Gaelic football now. They all do it, to an extent.

    But why wouldn't Derry or Tyrone just throw the odd ball in on top of their full forward line ? Maybe they could have gotten some joy, we'll never know. Or at least to keep the full back line honest. You need some variation.

    The two teams seemed to mirror each other with exactly the same tactics(or at least very similar), cancelled each other out really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭shockframe


    I can understand Derry being conservative as it was their first final in an age but why an established team like Donegal weren't a bit more gung ho was inexplicable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Thats such a knee jerk over exaggeration. You didnt like what you say today but to suggest drastic rule changes after it is plain silly.

    As for the assertion that the "game is in a bad enough state" and "hopefully the gaa dont leave it too late" is exactly the kind of doomsday stuff people like you have been saying for 40 years every time the game evolves. But guess what, gaelic football has been around long before you or me and will be around long after us so theres no need for such silly over exaggeration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,676 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Football is still the biggest game in the country despite all the years it's been "at death's door"

    There is a video of RTE down in North Mon in Cork that became famous for featuring a young Sean og O' Halpin. His coach is talking about how hurling is in danger from all the young lads taking up soccer (fair enough) and basketball and tennis 🤣

    Doom and gloom is never far away in GAA.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    "Today's game" is the problem. Today's Ulster Final was the worst example of it. Utter crap.



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