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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,615 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    You appear to believe that the state issues licenses based on how that days share price is going.

    I still do not get what Barryroe`s share price has to do with you or the state. If you believe a particulr share a bad investment, then don`t invest. Why it would matter to the state I have no idea either. Barryroe is not looking for the government to buy shares in the company or invest any other way either. If anything it`s Barryroe that is looking to give a license fee to the state.

    What has been busted is your paranoia and palpable fear of Barryroe being successful. Why that is I have no idea, nor tbh do I particularly care. Getting tangled up in the paranoia of others is not a great idea regardless.

    I said earlier I was taking a break from this thread for a while. Your posts since go even further to justify the reasons I gave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭therapist3


    Nuclear and geothermal are the only way. They are the greenest of all, if you avoid the obvious you'll end up with coal because it will be the only alternative to gas.

    It will be the greens who kill us all with their unhinged ignorance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭therapist3


    He is responsible for policy you might have forgotten that part



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Do you mean that you don't understand what the word "busted" means or is that being deliberately obtuse?

    Well for starters whats been busted was your comments claiming that 2 companies "pulled out" and repeated ad nauseum - when a look at the detail clearly shows that the company with responsibility for Barryroe terminated the contracts of these companies when the failed to meet the terms and conditions of said contract

    That you thought that Barryroe requires a "drilling company" 365 days of the year every year. This has been shown to be absolute rubbish

    That the two companies which were terminated were just "drilling companies". They weren't

    When you were reading between the lines and came up with absolute bs

    The list goes on and on.

    Yup busted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭therapist3


    The green guerillas don't seem to know what mandate they were elected on, they've changed their website and direction so many times it's incredulous



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  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lol, no it's not and that application is going through the motions. PVR said themselves they don't expect it until July

    I'm not sure you understand the meaning of "corrupt"



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Geothermal is proposed and will come along at some point, likely in the form of district heating systems. Maybe it will happen as a power source, but I think it may not be viable economically due to the depth requirements imho but I hope I'm wrong on that.

    Funnily enough, the lad you were making unfounded claims against, just recently announced the Draft Policy Statement on Geothermal Energy

    As for nukes, legislation currently prohibits them and there is no support to reverse the legislation. Until that happens......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    OK more things busted

    Do you have any idea how shares and stocks work? You do understand that share prices can rise and also fall and even rise again etc yes?

    Here's the share chart posted earlier

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    It clearly shows that from mid 2021 the companies share price rallied from worldwide market share price drops following the covid pandemic. Then the period from late 2021 through to last month where we see a noticeable drop represents the period over which Mr Ryan was reported to have stonewalled the companies Appraisal licence.

    Simply coincidence? Or real evidence that Mr Ryans shenanigans has had a very real impact on the companies share price. Let me guess you'll go for the former.

    Here's the detail of the share price since it was announced that the decision for the Appraisal application was forthcoming. Again I'm fairly sure you'll be claiming the recent rise is all a big coincidence.

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    But hey despite all that information reckon you'll just go to go off on another rant again. No need I'll take that as read.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,261 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Websites change all the time. It's kind of a big part of how the internet works

    The election manifesto is a public document. It should be very easy to give examples of things they are doing now that contradict their election manifesto.

    You would expect any party in a coalition government to have to accept some things that they campaigned against as part of their program for government. But do you have an examples that we can discuss?

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭therapist3


    And there you have it "figure out storage solution" this is the catastrophe of green guerillas, they're pursuing policy with catastrophic failures



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭therapist3


    To bestow favour for unfairly for gain.

    The 'favour' can be positive or negative and the gain can be intangible to monetary

    In this instance he's stonewalling a gas lease while at the same time expediting gold and silver and wanting to attack our planning system to favour his windmill buddies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,261 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I'm genuinely embarrassed for you

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    Lets bet the future on this stock. I'm sure everything will work out just fine

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Amazing to become so knowledgeable about a company which you didn't know existed less than 2 months ago!

    There are reports from early March that Mr Ryan was apparently stonewalling the appraisal application. Details from the companies own website details that the company sent several letters to Mr Ryan and his department with no reply.

    It wasn't until just over a week ago that the company received any update with the news that the application was in process.

    The prevarication of this process if nothing else, smacks of borderline incompetence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,261 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    this line of debate is hilarious 'you never heard of them until 2 months ago, therefore you can't know more than I know about them"

    If some nutter comes up to me talking about the cult of Mecunado's LNG terminal that started in 2002, the fact that they know every detail about it since it started doesn't mean I couldn't learn enough about it in 10 minutes of basic research to discover that it's a cult thats not worth becoming invested in.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Attack the planning sys.... Wha?

    Gonna need some details on that gem if you don't mind.



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Storage is early days stuff yet. There's a growing list of options. Some we already have and are expanding (pumped storage), some are just starting to be built (Li battery backup), others are in the R&D phase (too many to list here) and others are pending the market case (green hydrogen).

    In this regard our energy storage will follow a similar strategy to generation in that it will be spread across multiple technologies for the sake of capacity, redundancy etc

    It's ok to not be aware of some of these things, there's a massive amount of development happening in the storage sector as every nation is going to be implementing it.

    For us, first we ramp up the generation, then we scale up the excess generation with storage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    I see in that comment you chose to be deliberately obtuse Lol. But no matter it remains the current share price is rising. Curious that should coincide with Mr Ryan getting his finger out.

    Btw embarrassed is a feeling experienced by an individual themselves. You cannot project your own embarrassment onto other people. Though tbf I can understand why your suitably embarrassed with what you've posted there.

    🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    It's called the internet. Fantastic invention. You can find out all sort of information very quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,261 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Nope. You've got it arse ways around.

    Not that I am any expert in the field, rather we have some who less than 2 months ago didn't even know the company existed who are now coming up with all types of increasingly bizarre detail on the company. Most of which simply does not appear to stand up to any scrutiny

    What is even more "hillarious" is those vociferously objecting to all use of untapped natural oil and gas resources are the exact same who are going hell and leather throwing shite (including "dog shite") at the company .

    You really couldn't make this type of shite up. Except some apparently have.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Is that where you learned the Russians were going to bomb the Shannon LNG terminal if it was built? or that crude oil is only made of dinosaurs?

    I'd suggest you get some better sources 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,261 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Whatever, you brought up the share price. The people who believed enough in the messages put out by this company to invest in them, all of them lost almost all of that money

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    "Lol"

    Indeed my thoughts exactly when I read those comments 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Yeah sure thing. I hope for your own sake you don't listen to the likes of Mr Ryan and friends for investment advice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Don't expect any rational arguments in return btw. The general gist seems to be disinformation, deflection and denial. Oh and lots of mud slinging. So pretty normal green policies :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    The thread is about Ireland, Germany is another country so why bring it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    At least we have established that you do indeed have the ability to remember a discussion.

    Based on what you have provided to the discussion so far I wouldn't be giving anyone advice on "better sources"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,261 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Hold up here Dr Evil

    Have you a source for that claim?

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    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,062 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    its great to see the france ireland interconnect going ahead, we have amazing wind potential here, so hopefully it happens now, at least we re indirectly accepting nuclear also



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