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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Why do you keep saying “corporate media”? What other media is there?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Independent and small business media enterprises. The likes of CNN are owned by behemoths and are directly linked to the Democrats.



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The most viewed "news" station in the US was pro Trump....



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?



    There is no independent media, there’s media that tell you what you want to hear and media that doesn’t


    And, Foxnews is the No.1 rated cable news network. Tucker Carlson is the highest rated opinion show, but some considerable distance. Why are you flatly ignoring that the buggest media company actively campaigns for the GOP ?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,248 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump cost himself the reelection.

    All he had to do was the bare ****ing minimum, keep his nose clean and he had 4 more years.

    But, Trump being Trump, he self sabotaged.

    He's is a ****ing idiot who blew his own chance.

    It's no one else's fault. But in typical trump supporter form, in you come with your hot take on how it was everyone else's.


    PS - I note you haven't said a word about his attempt to subvert a properly held election in an effort to illegally retain power.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Interesting, there was another long banned poster who's main trump talking point was all the "good" he did for the black and latino community, what's the chances that we'd get two like minded individuals on an Irish forum.

    AKA the "October surprise" that the GOP wouldn't release evidence for relating to an individual disconnected from the administration.

    Unlike all the suits against trumps offspring that are progressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I'm sure you'll provide any proof at all of collusion.


    He utterly annihilated the corporate media

    The one that still patently exists?

    Words just mean anything... he annihilated it, my bros.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What's with all these Republicans who can't remember anything? Have any of their internet psychologists shifted attention from Biden to figure out what is going on with that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Texas AG Paxton claims he is being sued by Texas State Bar Association for arguing in bad faith in his legal arguments about the 2020 election

    Paxton's name doesn't show up at all on the suit though, which names one of his lieutenants who was evidently the author of Case No. 220155.

    On or about December 7, 2020, Respondent filed Case No. 220155, styled: State of Texas v. Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, State of Georgia, State of Michigan, and State of Wisconsin in the United States Supreme Court. Respondent’s pleadings included requests for multiple injunctions against the Defendant States and a finding that the Defendant States violated federal election laws.


    Specifically, these requests asked the United States Supreme Court to enjoin “Defendant States’ use of the 2020 election results for the Office of President to appoint presidential electors to the Electoral College,” and sought to prevent the Defendant States from “meeting for purposes of the electoral college pursuant to 3 U.S.C. §5, 3 U.S.C. §7, or applicable law pending further order…”


    Respondent’s pleadings requesting this extraordinary relief misrepresented to the United States Supreme Court that an “outcome-determinative” number of votes in each Defendant State supported Respondent’s pleadings and injunction requests. Respondent made representations in his pleadings that: 1) an outcome determinative number of votes were tied to unregistered voters; 2) votes were switched by a glitch with Dominion voting machines; 3) state actors “unconstitutionally revised their state’s election statutes;” and 4) “illegal votes” had been cast that affected the outcome of the election.


    Respondent’s representations were dishonest. His allegations were not supported by any charge, indictment, judicial finding, and/or credible or admissible evidence, and failed to disclose to the Court that some of his representations and allegations had already been adjudicated and/or dismissed in a court of law.


    In addition, Respondent misrepresented that the State of Texas had “uncovered substantial evidence… that raises serious doubts as to the integrity of the election process in Defendant States,” and had standing to bring these claims before the United States Supreme Court.


    As a result of Respondent’s actions, Defendant States were required to expend time, money, and resources to respond to the misrepresentations and false statements contained in these pleadings and injunction requests even though they had previously certified their presidential electors based on the election results prior to the filing of Respondent’s pleadings.


    The facts alleged herein constitute a violation of the following Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct:


    8.04(a)(3) A lawyer shall not engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation.

    Ken Paxton is taking it very maturely, playing the victim card, and announcing that his State Bar (full of Republicans) is a Liberal activist group and he has plans to audit all of them for “aiding and abetting the mass influx of illegal aliens,” and misappropriating taxpayer money.

    The Bar is eager to point out they are 501(c)(3) and privately funded, without taxpayer money.

    It just hasn't been a very good year (couple of years?) for Texas Republicans. Last week, Mexico announced it was redesigning its new freight rail infrastructure to exclusively avoid Texas now as a result of Gov. Abbott's stunt last month, which cost our economies $4Bn, and spoiled $240M in goods, to catch illegals (0 found) or drugs (0 found) in a deranged PR stunt which had the effect of trying to shove your foot up your own constituent's asshole and then try to blame it on the president of the united states.

    I hope for their sakes, they were dicking around with this because they had sooo much free time on their hands after solving all of their States glaring power grid crises. Probably not though, since they're trying to pass laws that levy **** fines on renewable energy providers for bothering to try:

    Imagine getting billed by Texas because you never cleaned the pollen off your solar panels last week so they aren't putting out as much free energy as the State anticipated from you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,743 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    More Texas news, @Overheal: Due to Abbott's grandstanding and the Texas Legislature's sycophancy, the Texas National Guard are unionizing. Imagine that, unionized military. https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/texas-soldiers-unionizing-right-wing-governor-greg-abbott-tseu-national-guard-organizing . Texas, where the state flag is also a review.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Did you notice the Chyron right before he segued into that? Pushing a conspiracy movie that even Fox News and Tucker Carlson won't talk about.

    Court mandated apology on the one hand, charging forward with more of the same in the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,248 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Boy, if Trump fans could think for themselves, they'd be mighty peeved that they were lied to all this time....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Up until the radical left bit it actually seemed like a fairly genuine happy Mother’s Day to his supporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    And there it is

    Probably the most money spent in history for such a small thing - but I wonder if this admission will erode his attempt to secure Closing on the deal. He requires other peoples money to secure the buy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Odd he says ultimately the ban didn’t stop Trump having a voice, it wasn’t to stop that despite what morons crowed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,916 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    But now Trump has already said he wouldn't come back to Twitter, so either he basically abandons Troth Ssencial and returns to Twitter, or he sticks to shouting into the empty void of his own platform.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,792 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    He's a man of principle, I could never see him saying one thing and doing something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,401 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Donald potentially doing something he openly said he wouldn't do? Surely not.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Partly true, Trump did himself no favours but if Covid hadn't come along I'm pretty certain that he would have been relected.

    He handled Covid poorly and lost older voters.

    Covid was the catalyst BLM and the Democrats used to stoke division and increase turnout in the younger and black voter.

    Covid allowed greater mail in voting.

    It was a combination of the above that sunk Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Musk has no interest in buying Twitter, its just a pump and dump they cried in unison.

    Musk has no intention of letting Trump back on Twitter they cried in unison.

    Well guess what ..

    Elon just called Twitter's decision to ban Trump in January 2021 a "mistake."

    "I do think it was not correct to ban Donald Trump, I think that was a mistake," Musk said. "I would reverse the perma-ban. ... But my opinion, and Jack Dorsey, I want to be clear, shares this opinion, is that we should not have perma-bans."

    Dorsey following Musk's remarks that he does "agree" there shouldn't be permanent bans on Twitter users. "There are exceptions ... but generally permanent bans are a failure of ours and don't work," he said.

    What way to spin this I wonder ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,319 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    "Guess what guys..."

    What?

    He hasn't bought Twitter or let Trump back on. Come back when he's proven he isn't all talk. You're just coming across as desperate at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,248 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Covid was the catalyst BLM and the Democrats used to stoke division and increase turnout in the younger and black voter."

    Nonsense. Trump was a racist. Stephen Miller was a racist. That kind of motivated minorities.

    Don't forget, he got impeached too.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Covid was the catalyst BLM and the Democrats used to stoke division and increase turnout in the younger and black voter.

    Sure I guess they stoked the fire that Trump had poured gasoline all over. It’s not like Trump had spent the past 4 years pledging to only accept election results if he wins etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    You must be very proud of your golden idol. What a win. He did it!!! He (maybe) beat the libtards. All it took was a multi billionaire to (maybe) spend billions to buy twitter to put him back on. Genius. What a true American hero. How does he do it!!!!???!!! He IS amazing.

    If he is back on twitter then, yes, I will say I was wrong. Absolutely. I have no problems admitting that. I won't bury my head in the sand and ignore every question about my thoughts on a traitorous, homophobic, racist, sexist,terrorist-supporting, dictator-supporting, america-hating, insurrection-instigating, lying, cheating, hustling sexual predator. No problem.

    But anyway.

    I mentioned previously that I am genuinely interested to see how this goes. Politics aside. Twitter or Facebook or YouTube or any other social media platform needs moderation. Simply to cover their assess. Trump and his... Fans have already been proven to use social media and other platforms to spread known lies. I think we can ALL agree on that, yes? And so have people across the spectrum. But these platforms suspend and ban these people, not for some ideal, but simply to protect themselves.

    Let's say Musk fulfills his promise of zero moderation (which he had already backed away from). But let's say he removes all moderation. What happens? Twitter suddenly becomes a platform for lies. From all directions. Now you have a platform that is SUPPORTING known lies. Which means that they are liable. Which means they are in the firing line for law suits.

    I think it is a VERY bad business decision. If not handled correctly it will turn into a pariah. The next 4chan or 8chan or whatever and all it takes is another competitor and people will flock to that. Remember Bebo? Remember MySpace? Hell, remember Facebook? Lol.

    As I said, Musk has already quantified and pulled back from his zero moderation promise. Assuming that trump is let back onto Twitter now that someone else bought it for him, what do you think will happen when he says something libelous? When Twitter have to cover their assess and remove the tweet? How soon before he and his... Fans round on twitter (again) like the armed and dangerous snowflakes they are?

    As I said, I am curious to see how this unfolds over the next couple of years. Assuming everything goes ahead.

    So no spin. If he goes back to Twitter then I was wrong. But what will happen to Twitter if it just turns into hate speech? How quickly will it loose its shine? How soon before the top Twitter celebrities realise that their image is being tarnished by being associated with a platform of hate and they move? What will happen when all the top hitters take all their followers and revenue streams elsewhere?

    This may not happen but, without moderation, it will descend into hate from all directions. Very strange business decision if he goes through with it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,248 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    sometimes being off twitter isn't a bad thing for trump. Imagine the back pedalling...

    Post edited by everlast75 on

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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