What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Brian? · 26-04-2022 11:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118976821#Comment_118976821

So a Trump supporting starts the whole discussion by celebrating Trump's return to Twitter thanks to the Musk takeover and your assessment is that it's the anti Trump side that are the problem. Bizarre stuff there.

Can you please explain the LibsofTik-Tok sentence? It's one of the strangest sentences I've seen this year.

Faugheen · 26-04-2022 11:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978175#Comment_118978175

We didn't chat about it before. I made all the necessary points and you just completely ignored it.

Answer the points I made about how the GOP are an evil party instead of crying about how mean people are to them and we can have a genuine discussion about it.

If you don't want to, that's fine. Just don't be a baby when posters don't say nice things about them because of what a horrible bunch of people they are. Defend them. Stick up for them. Make your point.

The fact you want to point out that I 'got a holiday' shows you aren't interested in discussing anything in good faith. You just want to dump nonsense and waste people's time.

Penn · 26-04-2022 11:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978230#Comment_118978230

First few paragraphs from an article written in the past week about the account:

On March 8, a Twitter account called Libs of TikTok posted a video of a woman teaching sex education to children in Kentucky, calling the woman in the video a “predator.” The next evening, the same clip was featured on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News program, prompting the host to ask, “When did our public schools, any schools, become what are essentially grooming centers for gender identity radicals?”

Libs of TikTok reposts a steady stream of TikTok videos and social media posts, primarily from LGBTQ+ people, often including incendiary framing designed to generate outrage. Videos shared from the account quickly find their way to the most influential names in right-wing media. The account has emerged as a powerful force on the Internet, shaping right-wing media, impacting anti-LGBTQ+ legislation and influencing millions by posting viral videos aimed at inciting outrage among the right.

The anonymous account’s impact is deep and far-reaching. Its content is amplified by high-profile media figures, politicians and right-wing influencers. Its tweets reach millions, with influence spreading far beyond its more than 648,000 Twitter followers. Libs of TikTok has become an agenda-setter in right-wing online discourse, and the content it surfaces shows a direct correlation with the recent push in legislation and rhetoric directly targeting the LGBTQ+ community.

The account has also doxxed people featured in some of their videos, leading to targetted harassment of them. They've gotten more recent fame though because their own information was revealed and they're now in hiding, because targetted harassment of "the libs" is fine, but completely unacceptable when it's done to them.

For clarity as I know someone will try twist my words; Targetted harassment of anyone is not okay, and I don't condone it against the person behind the Libs of Tiktok account.

francois · 26-04-2022 12:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978253#Comment_118978253

https://twitter.com/travisbrown/status/1515329630756122626

HalloweenJack · 26-04-2022 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978215#Comment_118978215

I'm sure you will also call out the posters who do the same about 'the Left', 'libs' and 'TDS sufferers', won't you?

BruteStock · 26-04-2022 12:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978104#Comment_118978104

You're lying. Show me the anti-lgbt legislation. Do you even know what legislation means? Of course you do but you're deliberately misinterpreting its meaning to further agenda. Just like CNN😉

Look at it like this , say Christian fundamentalists were teaching little children about Jesus , sin and all that stuff. For one the left would be furious and demand it come to an end. That's fair enough , no? A bill is passed that instructs the teachers to only teach what's on the curriculum. The right misrepresent the bill calling it "don't say Jesus" and claiming their religious beliefs are being negatively impacted. But they can still continue on as they were living before the bill. They can still bring their own kids to church and do whenever religious stuff they want.

Similarly , a same sex couple if they have a kid of their own , can bring them to pride festivals , marches ..Whatever they want , no matter how old the child is. The child could be a toddler and it wouldn't matter. Because there is no anti-lgbt legislation.

Many parents may not want to bring their young kids to pride festivals and that's perfectly fine. Everybody wins. However everybody doesn't win if that choice is removed from parents when they drop their kids off at school. This is when certain teachers have free reign to explore their own sexuality with other peoples children. They don't have any right to do that , in fact in comes from a place of pig ignorance to think they do. The bill offers parents transparency about the curriculum. That's all.

The bill is simply an inconvenience for the teaches who enjoy exploring their own personal lifestyle's with other peoples children. It is not a anti-gay legislation in any shape or form. Just an inconvenience for some

And don't bull crap me by saying they just want to discuss innocent themes of a sexual nature. Maybe kids don't want to be part of that discussion. None of our teacher's back in the day were telling us their sexual preference when we were kids. And if you say they were, you'd be lying.

So no one will be forced out of their jobs , or impacted in any way unless they have an irresistible compulsion to impose their sexually obsessed world-view , that is absolutely in no way of any educational value to a child who is barely learning how to read, write and do arithmetic.

Randolph has all the right talking points for CNN , hence why he was invited on the platform. You were wrong about Mucks intention to buy twitter. Lets wait and see if you are wrong about Florida's taxes too 😅😘

26-04-2022 12:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978431#Comment_118978431

Care to explain how you would address the fact children have two same sex parents? Also are you so dense that you genuinely believe that being gay is a lifestyle?

Quin_Dub · 26-04-2022 12:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978431#Comment_118978431

To expand on your analogy using the religion angle.

If the legislation was saying "You can't talk about any religion or even acknowledge the existence of any religion , any discussion or reference to Religion even tangentially should not happen is school and people can go to a church or their home to find out about that stuff" that would be one thing.

BUT - What the legislation says is that "You can't talk about Christianity or even acknowledge the existence of Christianity , any discussion or reference to Christianity even tangentially should not happen is school and people can go to a Christian church or their home to find out about that stuff"

Which means it's perfectly ok to acknowledge the existence of Jews and Muslims or Buddists etc. just NOT Christianity.

Let's say you have a maths book and you are talking about how to work out the change you would get for a purchase and the book has a picture of someone shopping as a background image - It's ok to show picture of that person wearing a burkha, but you're not allowed to show a photo of someone wearing a Crucifix in the same context.

If you are having a general conversation in the class-room about what kids did at the week-end and one of them says "I went to a wedding in my local Catholic Church" you must shut that down right away, you cannot allow that to be discussed , but if another kids says "I went to my Brothers Bah-mitzvah" then that's fine.

I mean surely no Christian could see a problem with their religion being clearly marginalised and diminished and made to seem abnormal and wrong by its absolute exclusion from normal conversation and activity now could they??

HalloweenJack · 26-04-2022 01:01PM

"This is when certain teachers have free reign to explore their sexuality with other people's children".

What kind of messed up world are you living in? That is a highly loaded sentence. You cannot be naive enough to think that using that phrase in this context is entirely innocent. You are making an implication with your phrasing, though I'm sure you will deny it.

If you are concerned about the content, how about the government set the curriculum and say, for example, "pre-pubescent kids will have acknowledgement that same sex couples exist and there is nothing legally or morally wrong with it. No further information on the mechanics shall be provided until an appropriate age". That way parents will know what their kids are being told about and won't have to worry. A blanket ban and denial of the topic is just ignorant and dangerous.

Frankly, your comparison with religion is incorrect. People's sexuality is something affects every single person, even those who are asexual. Religion is not the same. Sexuality has a scientific, natural basis. Religion is made-up, pseudo-science.

Quin_Dub · 26-04-2022 01:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978530#Comment_118978530

There's no implication it's absolutely explicit , DeSantis own Communications director clearly stated that the legislation should more properly be called the "Anti-Grooming law" and that anyone that thinks it's a bad idea is probably a groomer themselves

https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1499890719691051008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499890719691051008%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheweek.com%2Fron-desantis%2F1011011%2Fanyone-who-opposes-floridas-dont-say-gay-bill-is-probably-a-groomer-desantis

HalloweenJack · 26-04-2022 01:11PM

Much as I suspected; it harks back to the old "homosexuals are secretly child molesters" trope.

Mad_maxx · 26-04-2022 01:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118977804#Comment_118977804

thats CNN international , different to CNN america , its mind numbingly boring and generic , anchors might as well be robots

Christy42 · 26-04-2022 01:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978215#Comment_118978215

I mean what do you want? If 65 million people fall for a Nigerian Prince scam then at some point you have to call a spade a spade even if it isn't politically correct to do so.

He used a sharpie to pretend that his map was real and that he wasn't an idiot. He sent out a presidential announcement of a hole in one he got playing golf. I can understand hating the establishment and democrats but the man is obviously an idiot who has no idea of what is happening around him. His white house was an absolute clusterbomb of constant nonsense and leaks. "Healthcare will be so easy" to the point that he got Republicans voting to keep Obamacare. Voting for a man with a gold toilet to stop the elites is like getting annoyed at someone punching you so you hire Mike Tyson to punch you instead. There is just no logic I can follow there and no one has begun to explain it. His only major piece of legislation was Paul Ryan's baby who did all the work and immediately left.

Sure you can argue others on the right are different but what promiment right wing leaders are there that aren't on the Trump scale of things? DeSantis wants to punish freedom of speech, Tucker who came out saying he would support Putin in a war against the Ukraine and had that weird tanning your balls for masculinity. MTG who can't remember essentially anything as it turns out. Can you name any who have any sort of sensibility? The likes of Romney are getting frozen out for not being extreme enough.

Quin_Dub · 26-04-2022 01:46PM

Speaking of "Media with an agenda" , we now have text published showing that Sean Hannity was taking direct instruction from the Trump White House about what to say on his TV and Radio shows in support of Trump.

Hannity was among the most frequent correspondents in the 2,319 text messages Meadows turned over to the Jan. 6 committee, CNN reports. On Election Day, for example, Hannity texted Meadows in the afternoon, asking if North Carolina was "gonna be okay." Meadows wrote back, urging Hannity to tell his radio show listeners: "Stress every vote matters. Get out and vote."

"Yes sir. On it," Hannity responded. "Any place in particular we need a push?"

relax carry on · 26-04-2022 01:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978149#Comment_118978149

Not really Gas. A lot of Trumpists support Trump because they feel he supports their extreme views. Homophobic, misogynistic, racist etc comments are to be expected from his supporters because they believe Trump is behind their views. They would watch the world burn in order to explore those views.

Penn · 26-04-2022 02:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978431#Comment_118978431

As others have said, nobody wants to teach children about anything of a sexual nature, and there are already rules about determining what ages that should start to be introduced in schools.

The issue is this bill prevents any teaching and basically any acknowledgement that LGBT people exist in schools. It will give parents the ability to bring cases against teachers who acknowledge LGBT people exist. If a child has same-sex parents, or talks about maybe an uncle who is married to a man and asks questions about it, the teachers cannot treat that relationship as being equal or even acceptable. This bill doesn't just affect LGBT teachers who may not be able to do anything to acknowledge their sexuality (even though heterosexual teachers would still be able to mention their opposite-sex partner), but any teacher could fall foul of this law for acknowledging LGBT relationships should a child then go home and mention it to their parents.

If a child in a teacher's class had same-sex parents and some of the other children asked the teacher about it or were bullying the child because of it, the teacher would have no remit to acknowledge that having same-sex parents is fine. That isolates the child and can make them feel like an outlier.

It tries to enshrine that teachers cannot teach same-sex relationships as being equal to that of male-female relationships. Your comparison to teaching about Christianity is completely irrelevant because that would be discriminating on the basis of religion. You cannot say all but one of these religions are okay, but this one isn't. Likewise, you cannot say all therelationships of all the heterosexual parents are fine, but relationships between LGBT couples are not. Parents have the right at home to teach their children whatever discriminatory nonsense they want, but schools should not. They shouldn't teach it's better to be heterosexual, or it's worse to be homosexual, transexual etc.

It's not about teaching anything of a sexual nature, because it's the exact same as teaching about how men and women can be married. That's equally based in acknowledging sexual relationships, and it shouldn't go any further than that in terms of anything not age-appropriate (and again, if children can be taught that men and women can love each other and get married, they can be taught two men or two women can love each other and get married).

As for how they claim this bill is about anti-grooming; how? LGBT people, more than anyone else, knows that being LGBT is not a choice. You cannot make someone be LGBT in the same way you cannot make an LGBT person be straight, and any discussion on same-sex relationships shouldn't go any further than it already does about opposite-sex relationships. Even then, the majority of grooming and child sex abuse is men grooming/abusing young girls. That has absolutely nothing to go with anything related to LGBT persons. Nor would acknowledging LGBT relationships to the same degree as heterosexual relationships have any bearing on that.

Overheal · 26-04-2022 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118977318#Comment_118977318

You have to remember, Walt didn’t just put a theme park on the corner of the highway, he is responsible for landscaping an entire marsh, essentially, into an entire city, power water sewage roads police fire and all. It kinda makes sense they would secure the zoning they got, nothing would exist there if not for their expenditure.

briany · 26-04-2022 03:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978801#Comment_118978801

My suspicion is that Trump holds very few concrete views other than everything should benefit him. He's the kinda guy who's pro-life every time apart from a time where he accidentally knocks up his cleaning lady.

Fathom · 26-04-2022 03:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118976133#Comment_118976133

Just in time for the midterm election.

ohnonotgmail · 26-04-2022 03:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118979692#Comment_118979692

Mid terms are Nov 8. unlikely to be done by then. they are hoping to have it done by the end of the year.

Igotadose · 26-04-2022 03:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118979692#Comment_118979692

This is an enormous purchase ($44bn or whatever.) There'll be some serious investigation into this by the SEC. As we know, the TWTR/Musk/SEC triangle is a very dysfunctional relationship. My guess having been involved with a few takeovers, none of them even close to this size, see you next year, probably 2d calendar quarter.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/25/elon-musks-deal-to-buy-twitter-leaves-many-key-questions-unanswered.html

duploelabs · 26-04-2022 05:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978175#Comment_118978175

If you're not going to debate trump, then what are you doing on this thread?

26-04-2022 05:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118976916#Comment_118976916

"They only care about sticking it to the Trumpists and laughing at them"

From what I've seen the majority of the thread has been about Trump trying to subvert the democratic process in the U. S. & that of similarly minded GOP members.

The rest appears to be trump supporters (often rereg accounts) posting when they think they have a win and posters patiently explaining to them how they are mistaken. Or trump supporters coming in to big up the gays etc being put back in their box by the GOP because they are also pedophiles, and again people explaining to them how this is not true.

While some people might be reading the responses from the trump supporters and laughing at them, the majority are probably thinking no one can be that stupid, despite plenty of evidence being presented.

As for the ones who equate gay people and teaching about homosexuality to paedophilia, well the majority probably aren't laughing at them and are just thinking what a c*nt they are.

As for some people constantly rereging, some security analysts I work with and know take part in projects to map troll and bot accounts, especially around major events like Covid and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. For some of the troll/sock puppet accounts, a dark humour saying among some of them is that the people who do so need an account for each of the voices in their head.

Now you can look at that as evidence that they are laughing at them, but in reality they just feel sorry for them and that they aren't getting the medical help they need.

From a professional perspective, they are the perfect target when doing a pen test for a company, and all I can say is thanks, they make my job a lot easier.

MisterAnarchy · 26-04-2022 06:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978238#Comment_118978238

Oh we did chat, I even kept a record of what you said, it was quite something.

Posters patiently explaining to them how they are mistaken, very true.

Says he who shitposts, runs away, and comes back to shitpost again.

But absolutely none of you post in good faith whatsoever.

You, personally, contribute sweet f*ck all to these discussions, and you come in here to make one stupid post and then you never reply to those who call you out on it.

You wouldn't know proper debate if you were literally handed a script. It's just constant posting of complete and utter shite and then not having the balls to discuss it when you're pulled up on it,and then say 'and then banned' like mods aren't overly leniant on them.

Shitposters and trolls are held to a much lower standard to those who actually want to debate in good faith but then get fed up with those who don't.

You’ve come in here, made smart remarks with zero value to the discussion and then you f*cked off because your bollocks was being ripped apart and then you come back later with a different, unrelated hot-take so you can hope that everyone forgot about the last piece of nonsense you posted.

Dont tell me I want to live in an echo chamber when you and your ilk bitch and moan about everything that has zero impact on your life as if you’re being suppressed from society.

Not to mention the playing the victim. Posters who have a track record of wanting to have a proper discussion and go through all of the effort to make their points clear find themselves in trouble when they get frustrated when the other party/parties aren’t interested in the same level of engagement. You lot then cry that you’re being insulted and you get away with it. I’ll get in big trouble for these posts and you lot will get off scot free again, while still claiming some form of victimhood.

Dont make baseless analogies using stupid buzzwords that you don’t even know the meaning of. The fact you think calling out the absolute horse diarrhoea that comes out of you and others is me wanting to live in an echo chamber shows you don’t even know the very meaning of the phrase.

26-04-2022 06:28PM

Ya, really don't think most posters are gonna disagree with what was said about you @MisterAnarchy ... And that's entirely your own fault.

MisterAnarchy · 26-04-2022 06:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118980422#Comment_118980422

I dont have any credence in what most posters on this thread think.

Overheal · 26-04-2022 06:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118980457#Comment_118980457

It’s reciprocal.

everlast75 · 26-04-2022 06:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978215#Comment_118978215

"as if they are a hive mind of some sort"

Look at what just happened. Twitter sale is announced and multiple posters appear, saying the same thing and thanking each others posts.

Nothing is posted on here for ages about Trump. Weeks of scandal - silence!

The only time anyone who supports him posts here is about nonsense culture wars. They don't debate policy, his achievements, or defend him in any meaningful way.

Incidentally, this isn't a thread about sh1ting on Trump. It's a thread about what he has done or hasn't done and it just so happens he is a walking sh1tshow.

Just because the facts don't support what his supporters think, doesn't mean that there's a problem with this thread.

MisterAnarchy · 26-04-2022 06:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118980466#Comment_118980466

I'm glad you said it, a rare moment of honesty.

extra gravy · 26-04-2022 07:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118980587#Comment_118980587

Careful, you'll be called a groomer next!

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