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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    They hope it's a distraction from all the Sedition and contempt of court stuff.

    It isn't , but that's what they hope.



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Think that's less so him being the first person to have responded to him and more being the most favourited. 😊 Clearly this random guy has riled you though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Ha

    It'll bring me great joy to see Jeff back :)

    All the "they're a private company, they can do what they like" are pooing their nappies tonight. :)

    Not guaranteed the big man will be back yet, maybe Musk won't bring him back but there's a chance. I'm expecting to see in a few days/weeks headlines..."Twitter staff stage protest in response to Musk takeoever" or "Twitter staff are resigning in their droves in protest against the takeover by Elon Musk"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    Haha this from the RTE reporting …

    Meanwhile, former US President Donald Trump said he will not return to Twitter even if his account is reinstated following the platform's purchase by Mr Musk.

    Mr Trump told Fox News that he will formally join his own TruthSocial startup over the next seven days, as planned.

    "I am not going on Twitter, I am going to stay on Truth," Mr Trump told Fox News.

    "I hope Elon buys Twitter because he'll make improvements to it and he is a good man, but I am going to be staying on Truth," Mr Trump added.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,321 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Even funnier that this is their new hero. But they don't actually care about free speech, we know that. They only want Donnie back on Twitter because they think it'll own the libs. Such a sad bunch.



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They are a private business and I'm entirely fine with them letting Trump back on if they want. Probably a negative for revenue in long run though.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    They've always been a private company and could always do what they wanted - Nothing has really changed there , it'll just be a different set of choices.

    Musk makes free use of the "block" feature when he doesn't like what people saying replying to his tweets , so it's not going to be a complete free-for-all.

    From a purely business point of view it's hard to see how/where Musk plans to make money from his idea for the new Twitter.

    Current shareholders are potentially getting a very nice lump sum , but I can't see how his plans make it more financially viable at all.

    By removing the filters and allowing largely "unfettered" tweeting from whomever about whatever they want he's not exactly going to make the platform more attractive to advertisers.

    He will find exactly the same kind of revenue generation problems that places like Gettr and Gab etc. have, albeit at an entirely different scale.

    A company isn't going to want their brand on the same screen as some toxic cess-pit of a thread now are they?

    Very few advertisers will bail-out right away as the user base is so significant right now , but depending on how toxic Musk allows the place to become under his management it could become a major money pit for him sooner than he might like.

    I get that he has the deepest pockets around , but there will be a limit to his largesse.

    I see only 3 longer term outcomes

    1. Twitter withers on the vine due to dwindling users and advertisers and fades away like MySpace or something.
    2. Musk realises that he can't actually have a "Free speech" platform like he thinks and keeps/restores a lot of the moderation that's already there
    3. Or , Musk gets bored of his new toy and puts it back on the market in 18 months to two years.

    My money is on 2. or 3. (or a combination of both)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    They are still a private company and can still do as they want, not sure why anyone thinks people would be pooing themselves over that. He broke the rules and got taken off, it wasn’t a feee speech issue as him and his supporters liked to shout. It was a terms and conditions issue, he continually lied on it and they removed him, they can put him back on if they want as it’s their own business. They’ll be delighted to see his lies back as they get to believe things like stolen elections again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Well sometimes its better to say nothing at all than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    Here is just a snippet of the "critical thinking" spewed out on here over the last few weeks most of it by our resident takeover expert.

    This is another Elon Musk "Pump and Dump" activity. Nothing more , nothing less.

    No way this gets approved (either by the board or the SEC) so he buys a bunch of stock ,or already has and the price spikes in anticipation

     Musk has already essentially said that he's not going to be buying it , it's a scam.

    Musks offer is a non-starter and everybody knows it , well everybody accept all the gullible day traders that are going to be giving all their money to Musk over the next week or so before the stock drops back to "Pre-Musk" levels as he cashes out.

    Musk isn't buying it , but he has opened the door to every other major tech company thinking about buying it.

    The Twitter board/shareholders will reject the deal pretty much out of hand for a number of reasons.

    Confirmed, Musk is just pump-and-dumping the stock:

    If Trump is really back on Twitter before the year is out, I will pay 100 real moneybucks to a certain poster's charity of choice under the condition that they will do likewise if he's not.

    I’ll throw another 100€ in myself




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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I would like to point out that this still isn't actually officially a "done deal" as it were, it probably is, but there are quite a few steps to get through first.

    The board have accepted the offer but the shareholders still have to vote on it and the various regulatory bodies around the world have to approve it too.

    I'm sure the threat of a potential Congressional investigation led by Jim Jordan if the deal wasn't accepted didn't help the decision making process either.

    Also, Trump himself had said he isn't coming back and even if everything goes super smoothly, Musk won't actually be in control until almost the end of the year so that €100 very is still very much alive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,321 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy



    You should probably take your own advice and hold off on the smug posts until the sale has been approved and completed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,321 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Throw in the fact that he has a history of SEC fines for fraud and intends to use his Tesla shares and unsecured loans as part of his financing plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Oh Trump will be back on it. He'll be back in time to rally voters for the mid-terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    How exactly? - Musk won't have control of Twitter before the mid-terms

    A Corporate takeover like this, especially one where the company is being taken private typically takes at least 6 months from the time that the initial offer is accepted and potentially longer than that.

    The press release says "The deal is expected to conclude in 2022" which means they hope to get it done before the end of the year , but they might not

    Nothing to do with Musk, Twitter or Trump specifically - That's just how long this kind of thing takes no matter who is involved.

    Trump himself has also said he's not going back on Twitter and that he'll be live on Truth Social (or Truth Central as he called it at his rally over the week-end) within 7 days.

    Now , I wouldn't believe Trump if he told me water was wet , but let's see what happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    So when do the guys who kept saying he's just in it to pump and dump stock expect him to sell the company..lol FAIL.

    Re:Trump... Only his derangement suffering haters believe this buy out was about Trump. Most functioning people have moved on from Donald Trump. One thing for sure , LibsofTik-Tok can keep doing what she's doing , which is exposing groomers and crt in the class rooms!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Indeed, most have moved on. But.... Um..... This is a thread speculating about trump's future. And sometimes it's just fun to trigger his Klan snowflakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,256 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Shouldn't you be off buying some infowars supplements from your hero?


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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    The irony of that statement.

    Trumps Klan, which you seemily refer to essentially anyone who doesnt think Trump is evil incarnate, arent the ones being triggered.

    Its the other way around.

    This is a thread speculating about trump's future.

    Its not really, its a thread to post negative story after negative story about the man or anything related.

    Its largely propaganda.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,256 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    It's just a thread to have to hate on Trump and the Republicans as shown by your comment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    If you look at the polls he is in a good position for 2024 and I think been forced of social media has actually benefitted him,,,out of mind , out of sight etc.

    He won't agree but a reason why he lost in 2020 was how relentless and annoying he was on social media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Really ?

    I could just as easily argue that nobody in the Biden thread actually supports Biden.

    They only care about sticking it to the Trumpists and laughing at them.

    Its all very sad really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,256 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its obvious that you missed us .

    Not a ****ing peep from any of them on here


    Isn't it incredible that anyone who comes on here to defend 45 either spirals into abusive posting and gets banned, or sh1tposts and doesn't respond to legitimate counter arguments, or basically agrees with 45 on one thing and couldn't give two sh1ts about egregious acts of his or his cronies.

    Not one poster can come on here and argue in good faith. Not one.

     

    They can't even come up with a legitimate reason to have a go at 46, which is the usual attempt at diversion.

    Must be like being a Man Utd fan these days. Best keep the head down and hope it'll all blow over soon.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Not at all. Plenty of people in the Biden thread are well able to call out his policy failings.

    Whereas the so-called Trump supporters haven’t said a damn thing over the last few days when all of the spotlight has been on him, and yet here they are now blathering on about some bullshit about Twitter.

    I wouldn’t say many people are Biden supporters either, but they’d have him over Trump for glaringly obvious reasons.

    Any challenge about Biden is met by those you deem to be supporters of him. This is not the case for Trump. His so-called supporters go hiding. And when they are challenged on stuff they post about Biden, they claim that they’re being ganged up on and play the victim. This is because they have nothing of any value or substance to contribute to the conversation whereas the people they’re trying to wind up come prepared to take them on. Where have you been for the last couple of years?

    The reason why they came back out of the woodwork was because Elon Musk bought Twitter and then they celebrate, not because Trump might come back, but because it’s another excuse to stick it to ‘the left’.

    They either don’t support Trump and just want to wind up the left, or they do support Trump and they cowardly run away until the latest sh*tshow involving him dies down.

    If you can’t see that after the last couple of years of non-stop sh*tposting, then that’s honestly not my problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Andi have repeatedly asked his supporters for their opinions on some of my concerns about trump and the GOP. I have repeatedly stated that I would offer no rebuttal and would accept their answer. After all, opinions are just that: opinions. However every single time, without exception, these were ignored.

    So I can only surmise that even his supporters cannot defend him.

    If you look at my initial posts on this thread you will see that I was actually supportive of the GOP. But, as they leaned further and further into trump's PROVEN lies. And supported terrorists and dictators, I lost respect for them. How can one respect a party that flips 180degrees regarding trump"s involvement of Jan 6. So, yes, I stand by my OPINION and have no problems with my posts.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Defend him then. Defend his policies. Defend the stupid sh*t he says. Don’t go running away when he finds himself in the middle of a sh*tstorm and then complain when you comeback that people are being mean to the anti-democracy Republican Party.

    You clearly feel victimised in all of this, so instead of whinging about it why don’t you have a genuine discussion in good faith about the merits of the Republicans instead of bitching that people aren’t saying nice things about them.

    You, and many others, haven’t tried this once. It’s just the same nonsense soundbytes from right-wing publications without even a thread of critical thinking.

    I am not afraid to say that the Republicans are an evil bunch but I base that off their policies which excessively restrict abortion (and offers rewards for citizens to rat on their neighbours!), their absolute nonsense in Florida which takes aim at LGBTQ+ in Florida, their voter restriction laws which try to benefit them and make it as hard as they can possibly get away with for demographics that wouldn’t vote for them their chance at having their say. You and others blather on about ‘free speech’ yet you will defend the Republicans effectively putting restrictions on the rights of citizens to have their say in elections. ‘Free speech’, my arse

    Lets have a chat about all of that then if you really want to, or you can go back to celebrating Elon Musk buying Twitter.



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