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Solar PV Hints, Tips & Troubleshooting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Has anyone managed to fix the Solis hybrid grid import when it shouldn't be? Their 20ms response time claims are major BS.

    Got it updated to 3A0029 and it didn't fix a thing.

    Quite annoying actually as it can draw up to 1kwh per day (and I get that if it the load is greater than 6kw it will pull from grid but these are times when it is less) and it shouldn't have drawn anything from the grid since Wed last week.

    It doesn't even detect it, I can only see this via my shelly on the mains or at the meter

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    Any settings that might need tweaking to improve the responsiveness?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    Look at CT calibration. I had the same issues and had to set my offset to -30



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Well when the house load is idling it stays pretty stable (as you can see at night for example) so it doesn't continuously add 30w for example.

    It only jumps when the load goes up and down so it is related. It's probably higher than that for sure since I have it set to 30 sec updates and confirmed at the meter as well.

    Also pretty obvious on the bills, the solis always underestimates, could be 50kws or more that it doesn't see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    This is where high frequency MODBUS monitoring becomes very useful! You can actually measure the responsiveness of the inverter. Here's my SolaX responding to a load (positive means grid pull, negative grid export):

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    It takes roughly 10 seconds to ramp up its voltage high enough to push back against the grid so that the supplied battery power is taken instead. And when the load disappears, it spills battery power into the grid for 10 seconds while it ramps down. The Solis at my parents house seems a bit more all over the place, but it does all depend on the actual loads:

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    Solis is definitely rounding down, Myenergi reads a latent import each day of ~1.5kWh like yourself and also if you integrate the raw grid power read by Solis itself you get the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    I have to say, the Sofar ME3000 reacts pretty quickly. I do find that even with a constant generation and house load, when the MyEnergi Eddi is running, I get a lot of export on my MyEnergi app graphs



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Shame that the sofar doesn't do 100a, what does it do max 60a?

    If they weren't that expensive wouldn't mind combining 2 of them for 120a assuming you can.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Its possible to do, and I know of 2 ways to prevent them fighting each other.

    One is pure passive mode controlled remotely.

    Other is a clever arrangement the grid CT in parallel with a CT on the feed to the secondary one.

    The primary sees anything coming from the secondary as import and will work to prevent that.

    It's the same for charging but reverse.

    There will be some transients when loads stop and start. But should settle quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Bellie1


    Got 4.5kw panels a few weeks ago,no battery. Happy out with free electricity during daytime. Not really solar panel related but noticed that from about 8pm until 8am we use 3kw. Have TV on until about 10 pm and fridge freezer ,chest freezer and router running overnight. Can't figure out what's using so much. The fridge freezer is about 14 years old, could that explain?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    You are averaging only 250w per hour. You won't do much better I would have thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Bellie1


    Oh interesting. I thought it seemed excessive. Our average daily use before panels was 10kw a day. So a third was from overnight use. The fridge and freezer should only be using 0.5kw in 12 hours( according to bonkers website. Assume TV used another 0.5 in a few hours. I can't understand what's using the other 2kw. It is what it is ,if that's average for other households. Ah well, my dream of free electricity for 6 months of the year needs to be scaled back to a dream of 2/3s free electricity



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Deagol


    3kw sounds perhaps a little excessive to me. I have 8x outside lights (6watts each) on overnight, 2x fridges, a freezer, 5x wireless extenders / router and at this time of year I'm doing ~1.5kw overnight.

    One thing I discovered when trying to root out high energy stuff was that older electronics can draw a lot on standby. Worst offender was my old Technics music system - was pulling 15watts on standby!

    Another high load device was my NAS - ~60watts - that's now on a timer and switches off at 11PM and back on at 8AM.

    I'd recommend to get one of the plug in power monitors and go around and find out what everything is using on standby etc. Worth the 10 euro imo.


    But, from 8PM onwards you have TV on till what time? My TV is modern 49" LED and it uses ~100watts turned on. I had to turn off the 'eco' mode as it made the TV unwatchable but that drove the power up.


    Also, you sure no one is boiling kettles for tea / coffee etc after 8PM? Toaster?

    Do you have any pumped water systems? I noticed at a friend of mines house his pump was going on every 20 seconds - he had a couple of leaking taps and toilets and that was making the pump run a lot more than it should.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    Gas central heating will still have an electric pump

    Maybe better to initially check the 23:00 or 00:00 to 08:00 usage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Bellie1


    Yeah definitely need to get plug monitor and suss out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    250W base load is honestly very good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I've an old Technics system from around 2000. Must check how much power it's drawing in standby!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Bellie1


    Have 4.5kw system. Pretty disappointed when was cloudy today and only generated 0.5kw and at moment 300w. Is that expected? At its peak I'm past few days when was sunny, generated 3.5Kw. I mean most days in Ireland are as dark as this, hadn't expected to be so low. They did put an optimiser on one panel , just a tad concerned that not configured correctly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Have you a sky box with the telly?

    Gamed console/dvd player on standby?

    Alexa/google devices?

    You'd be surprised how they all add up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Bellie1


    Yeah virgin box. Also WiFi extenders . Will get the plug monitor and try work out what's using the most. Also discovered my partner had an extension lead permanently plugged in with devices turned off but who knows if they were using some power. Have that plugged out for tonight so will see if makes a difference. Its a shame that only investigating this stuff now, another good thing to come form getting panels, makes you more aware



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    It's annoying the way the digital meters have round numbers rather than decimal places. So it's impossible to look at usage hour by hour.

    If you have solar, which also monitors the house load, and has a live feed, then you could watch the load as devices are turned on of off, one by one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Hadn't planned to go near Modbus, but the data pulled from my inverter through the app is unreliable.

    At least once a week, the consumotion, battery and grid values don't reset overnight so skew the monthly figures.

    Will have to have a go at it later in the summer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Very true, alll the standby usage never bothered me before. Now with solar it's become a challenge to maximise self sufficiency, so identifying what uses what over the next few weeks and hopefully lowering the base load (around 350-400w) is the next task. Even knocking 30w per hour off it would lower the yearly usage by around 260kWh, -> €1 a week saving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭S'


    Getting this error on a Solis Hybrid today with a puredrive 5kW battery. Battery was at 100% when error occurred.

    ov-vbatt-h - Battery overvoltage hardware Fault.

    Switched on/off battery and inverter to no avail. Any ideas what would be causing this?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    What makes you not believe that it's telling the truth ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    +1 They hate me in the house now... it used to be sute the way i switched off everyones lights - now im anooying the hell out of everyone watching the consumption. "dont put on wash/kettle/toaster/dryer/dishwaser ALL at once... stagger them!!"

    Great day today though... 6KW usage at peak times all from Battery + Panels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭S'


    Just trying to understand why this started happening all of a sudden. It sorted itself out around 7pm but lost a few hours from midday.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    It's funny how habits change, I was like that with the 5kwh battery but with 20 I could care less if people do stuff at night, in fact I encourage wasting power to make room for it the next day 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    I'm still in my first year with a 5kw battery (good guess!) And I don't want to comment too often, but since you mention it....

    I notice my 5kw battery tends to charge and discharge 9Kw on a good sunny day like yesterday. In my mind this means I am cycling it twice and really getting value out of it.

    If I was to overbuild a battery I might be happy seeing it store energy rather than watch it go to grid.... but that every extra Kw I add to battery comes at a cost out of my pocket that needs to be clawed back from my savings. At 10cents night rate that's a long time to claw back!

    I am starting to think that an 8 or 10 Kw battery, if I am still able to cycle it 2x per day might be a sweet spot for my house.

    Either way I'm still good with waiting until the world settles down on the supply chain side of things. One thing I am glad is I added a 5kw battery and did not add a 2.5kw or even leave it out as MANY people were advising at the time!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭paulbok


    The need for planning for large roof arrays is being dropped in the summer

    Doubt too many were bothered by it up to now, but it will certainly help.

    Especially for those considering large commercial / agricultural roof installs, notwithstanding FIT.

    Only limit now for domestic is the grid connection (single /3 phase), commercial /agri are already likely to have 3 phase.

    And of course, available roof space & funds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    It would make me consider adding a second string on the north facing side of my roof. The slope is about 22° so gets any sunshine from late Feb to late Oct



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    I'll bet good money the exemptions won't be ready by the end of June.



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