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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,054 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Compared to the last charlatan that was in the WH, is has been an "astounding success", even if Biden is a thoroughly boring, mild, POTUS.

    But as is typical for the average Trump worshipper, we're back to whataboutery, because there's nowhere else to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Why did he do the apprentice based on your logic. Why do anything at all? Because they can. They want power. They want the adulation. And it seems that he was in plenty of money issues based on the loans he has and the repayments. The apprentice lifted him to a new sphere, a run for POTUS, even if he lost, got the Trump brand out there. Wall to wall coverage.

    He only got scruntiny because he ended up winning. That and how he carried on. From not divesting himself from his business, from using his own assets to get extra monies from the state, from getting his children in power positions in the WH. Had he carried on like Obama he woud have had nothing to worry about.

    I think he, like in pretty much everything else, will go with whatever position is most favourable to him. It isn't that he is or isn't racist, that would require him to actually thin about someone else. I think he doesn't think beyond himself and his own gratification. If that means playing both sides, 'good people on both sides' then so be it. If that means playing to a certain base, then he is fine with it. Just look at his playing to the religious types. Do you really think this guy ever actually goes to church? He is never able to talk about his religion, his favorite parts of the bible etc, because he doesn't have one. But it suits a purpose.



  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think he is about as religious as Obama - i.e. not very religious but they had to play it up a bit under the old rules of US elections. In future you'll see less and less politicians pretending to be religious.



  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, they are not, because those are concepts rooted in sex and sexuality. Which no 4 or 5 year olds have any need to be learning. The fact that there is a need for this law is disturbing, but reflective of the indoctrination going on in US schools these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Try thinking harder. Obama was pretty religious. https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2017/01/15/a-president-with-a-feel-for-the-spiritual-who-was-hated-by-the-pious. You're just making sh1t up at this point.

    Trump never was or will be religious. It's a tool for him.



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  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think the Democrats' insanity will see Trump re-elected in 2024. The very possibility of it is a reflection on the joke of a political system. He touched a nerve with voters in middle America because they someone who, flawed as he was, still had a personality and a desire to fight for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,983 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The relationship between a husband and wife (the kid's father and mother) is equally rooted in sex and sexuality. Nobody is suggesting children should be taught the intricacies of LGBT relationships in particular, but to ban teachers from being able to acknowledge that some families are comprised of LGBT people (which is likely that some of the kids come from those families) is ridiculous and is rooted in homophobia.

    It's not indoctrination to say "This thing which exists, exists". It's not about saying this is better or worse, but simply acknowledging actual reality. But then again, most of the people who oppose that are too busy waiting for JFK Jr to show up at Trump's next rally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    So you agree it’s a bill with the effect of “dont say gay.” So it’s queer of you to complain that it’s being called that by people who understand the legal impact it has. The 3/5ths Compromise and the Fugitive Slave clause don’t mention slaves or slavery, either, nonetheless these were clauses protecting the institution of slavery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,313 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I strongly suspect that even if Trump was proved to be a racist, corrupt inept businessman and a fraud, it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference. Somehow, it would all be the woke, radical left and the MSM's fault.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,812 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    He doesn't love his country, he loves himself. Look at his actions from day one. The "wave of love" for him at his inauguration. The biggest inauguration. He continued to hold rallies after the election because he loves to be centre stage with his followers chanting his name and he loves to see his name on flags and t-shirts. His obsession with ratings. I think that's as important to him as the money.



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  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Again, there's no problem with teaching of any of that, but it should be age-appropriate. Toddlers should be off-limits for that. I have a toddler myself and the idea of him being taught about sexual while in creche just disturbs me. He will learn when he's old enough. Like around 8 years old maybe. It's not natural to be teaching that to 4 year olds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,977 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    even if Trump was proved to be a racist, corrupt inept businessman and a fraud,

    has that not happened already?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    You see, That's not a citation. Which article states that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The wrinkle here is you assume sex will only come for your child at a time of their knowledge, maturity and consent. You may have noticed a parallel topic these days: pedophilia. Teaching very young children what sex even is makes it more straightforward for parents, teachers and administrators to be alerted by their child if they've been sexually abused by someone they've been entrusted with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,983 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    And again, there's a difference between being taught about "sexual" and simply acknowledging something exists.

    Say there's another toddler in the same creche as your child. That toddler has two mothers, a lesbian couple. Do you think it's unacceptable for the teacher to acknowledge that some children, like that other child, have two mothers, or sometimes two fathers etc? If the child draws a picture of themselves and their mothers, can the teacher ackowledge that? If your child asked the teacher why that kid has two mothers, can the teacher answer? Or should the teacher stick strictly to only referring to parents as a mother and a father and that that child's parents are sinners and are going to hell?

    It's not about indoctrination, because LGBT people, more than anyone else, know that a person does not and cannot choose to be LGBT. You cannot be indoctrinated into becoming LGBT. Nor is it in any way about grooming, because perverts are not going to care if the child knows about same-sex relationships etc (and given that most sexual abuse is men abusing young girls, means anything LGBT-related is not a factor).

    The entire thing is simply trying to further homophobia to try and counter the shifting tide in society which is more accepting of LGBT people's rights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,313 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    To the average person, yes.

    I meant to a true believer.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    He only got 2,000 people to attend the venue, previously he had 15,000 there in 2016.


    Lost his edge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Now that Jared has got his pay off from Donald, his father pardoned, he might not have to take so much crap from him and wants distance between them.



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do you think it should be okay to discuss different family units in school? Eg my nephews are about that age and understand that some men/women love each other and raise families. By your logic, it shouldn't be touched upon at all.


    By the way, last time you were in this thread you claimed Trump was a pro gay rights president but seemed to disappear after a list of his regressive policies were posted.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    But they aren't being "taught about sex" , just like no child is being taught CRT.

    It's nonsense outrageous scaremongering by the GOP.

    So now in Florida if a kid in the class has two Dads or 2 Mums (or even maybe a Trans older sibling or relative) the teacher is not allowed to even acknowledge the existence of those people in the class-room.

    If another kid asks "Teacher ,why does Johnny have 2 Dads?" the teacher cannot even reply to say something completely innocuous like "Some families are different , but I'm sure Johnnys two Dads love him very much" by way of explanation.

    Not "Teaching Sexuality" , not "Grooming" or any of the other ridiculous hateful things that the GOP claim.

    Just simple basic decency and respect , something it would seem is sadly lacking among a significant cohort of the modern GOP.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,054 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Not "Teaching Sexuality" , not "Grooming" or any of the other ridiculous hateful things that the GOP claim.

    Are there people really using the term "grooming"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,121 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Great to see Musk not take a seat on the twitter board, opens up the possibility of a Hostile takeover and bring Trump back to the platform! That will upset all of the Blue Thicks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭TheRepentent




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,121 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,464 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Gabbard whom some people tried to tell us was a 'progressive'

    Thankfully won't have to hear anymore of that nonsense. How long until she has her own show on Fox News...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Because if there's one thing that a fiduciary would do for Twitter, it's to install Donald Trump, the head of the amazingly successful and beautiful Truth Social.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    why would he do either of those things? Musk for all his faults isn't an idiot.

    you guys do seem constantly desperate for a "win".

    Aren't you on trumps platform? Imagine all the truths you could be hearing instead of your "free speech" being infringed upon elsewhere,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,333 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    "I think of the abuse someone like Candace Owens or Jesse Lee Peterson gets."

    This Candace Owens?

    "Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for me are too much, even for my tastes.”

    Brenton Tarrant, white supremacist who killed 51 people.

    Oh won't somebody think of poor Candace, I hope no big bad "woke" leftie upset her. Are you having a laugh with that utter bullshït?



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What do you mean even if, it has been proven repeatedly.



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  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Two consistent factors, not knowing what your talking about and it repeatedly being proven.



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