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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I think that they are, in the main, people that feel let down or left out. That the world as they envisaged it to be is not the world as they see it and therefore anything that sticks two fingers up at that world is to be applauded.

    I don't think they think it he necessarily right or wrong, but it is getting one over at the 'elites' and the liberals and the system. It doesn't matter the cost, that isn't really something they are concerned about.

    They aren't really sure what the problem is or who is to blame, but it is definitely whatever is currently being talked about and 'them' are the problem.

    And Trump, very successfully, tapped into that. Since there is no defined problem, there doesn't need to be a defined solution. And that is why the rallies are so popular. People want to hear someone talk about all the problems they have, even if they aren't really impacted by the vast majority of them.

    Its why they likes people like MTG or Gaetz. Even though are fully within the system that is apparently part of the problem, they are telling it like it is and thus anything they do can be passed off as simple a cost worth paying to stop the problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    White House docs turned over to the Jan. 6 committee feature "a gap in President Donald Trump’s phone logs of seven hours and 37 minutes" -- including during the Capitol riot.


    What is he hiding?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭Hoop66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Looks like Woodward and Caro are on the job here.

    https://archive.ph/6SJ64#selection-3087.48-3093.264

    (the WaPO article with the details, but not behind a paywall. +1 for archive.ph)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    almost 8 hours.


    Nixon was missing 18 minutes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And regardless of what he was actually doing, the fact that he was out of touch for that long, in the middle of a major security issue of the capital and the entire US, should show any possible supporters exactly what sort of 'leader' Trump actually is.

    The man hid away (that is the best take one can have, the other is that he was actually working away on the coup but not using his phone) while his country edged towards anarchy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Unfortunately this is true. As long as he's "owning the libtards" then he is golden. He is sticking it to the elites...... A multibillionaire self-professed tax-dodger and his multimillionaire cronies are "Sticking it to the elites"

    This frustration with, and blind hatred of, what Americans consider "The Radical Left" (Just left of centre in Europe) has lead them to thinking that trump is "one of us". TBH, it's a little bit sad.

    I have a friend who moved to Canada. Recently got their Canadian Passport. Recently started spouting all these trump lines/lies. Sending these usual nasty anti-Ukraine memes. I told them not to. Said I never send them any anti-Russian memes so I expect the same respect. They replied with lines straight out of fox "news" "Oh, I just hate the radical left". I said "You are a Western European and now a Western European/Canadian, working in a Canadian college who has benefitted from social welfare in Ireland and thinks Canadian healthcare is amazing. YOU are the "Radical Left" to these people. Fox news and their audience hate YOU too!"

    As I and many have said before, I can absolutely understand where his votes came from in 2016 and why he got in. He 100% was (rightly or wrongly) an antiestablishment vote.

    But to still believe that he has ANY sort of positive influence on the world, to continue to believe in him after his lies of election fraud, to continue to believe in him after Jan 6 ("O God, will you ever let Jan 6 GO???!!!"), to continue to believe after ALL the sleaze, after ALL the money-grabbing, after all the stories of his campaigns setting up HUGE direct debits from elderly/vulnerable people, after the proud statements of sexual assault. It really is a little sad.

    I know, I know, his MANY racist statements, homophobic statements, anti-women statements, anti-American statements appeal to his most ardent followers. But SURELY they must want more than a racist homophobic sexual assaulting anti-American insurrection instigator? That's ALL he has going for him... Well, apart from getting a hole-in-one.

    I just cannot understand how someone who is NOT a racist homophobe anti-American woman-hater can support him because obviously his supporters are NOT all racist homophobic anti-American women-haters. I am absolutely 100000% stating that I do not believe that his supporters are racists or homophobes or anti-women or anything like that. That is ACTUALLY my point. I can't see how they can deep deep down feel "He's one of us. He speaks for me". As I asked before (And was of course, ignored) where is the line? Is there a line?


    Ah, I suppose there is no point. We are all preaching to the choir here.



    Edit: Fixes typos... So many typos

    Post edited by TheIrishGrover on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I’ll let 1/6 go after these autocoup **** give up the 2020 election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,299 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    And if you watch the coverage from the time 18 minutes was seen as this massive thing and didn’t the secretary have to come into and try and account for how her actions could’ve have lead to those 18 minutes going missing ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭valoren


    With the amount of Golf he plays then, statistically, he was probably due a hole in one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It’s nauseating how it’s become all about winning the game of politics since then. These aren’t your dads Republicans. Well, some of them are!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    I think they golf release is to distract from the missing time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,333 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Surely the phone provider would have the records from during the gap? I wonder how hard they would be to obtain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Burner phones.

    One of the Trump workers has already told the committee he bought at least 3 of them while in California.

    It's possible they might get, maybe some of these burner phones, but the likelihood is not, and there are probably more than those 3 I would guess.

    We can only imagine how they were used, but that's 3 people who can talk at once and we can't be sure who they are, as sure as we could be if eg. a burner phone calls Meadows' phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Annnnnnd you'll have his klan going on about not being able to prove anything. As they have with everything. Not is something right or wrong morally. That is answered VERY easily. If you get away with it you were right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trump, cornered, tries to insist he doesn’t even know what a burner phone is.


    Bolton immediately contradicts him, stating he knew exactly what they were and were at minimum the topic of briefings or meetings in multiple instances.

    Conscionable guilt here.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,313 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,977 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I can't understand why anybody thought the white house would do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    But I do fully anticipate people will be down in the comments shrieking that it is treason something something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,915 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Why would any Trump supporter come on this thread ?

    Perhaps they are masochists.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,977 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    expect people asking when Hunter will be testifying before the Jan 6th committee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,333 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Apparently Gaetz now has his laptop/hard drive for some reason. The whole thing is just hilarious at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,299 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Didn’t tucker Carlson claim he had it and then didn’t ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,333 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    I lost track after Rudi, I'd say the "chain of custody" is some serious list of degenerates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    TLDR, Gaetz badgered an FBI witness for not knowing the exact whereabouts of Hunters Laptop, which is an oddly specific thing to rant about. Why yes Mr. Gaetz it's in the Evidence locker on the 2nd floor of the so and so building, 3rd cabinet, 2nd drawer from the bottom. It was a silly exchange drummed up so Gaetz could hold up an apparent flash drive copy of the laptop's contents that he had in his possession already, having just bemoaned that Congress hadn't seen the laptop's data even though, clearly, he claims to have had done.

    All a bunch of show that doesn't really have anything to do with Trump, other than Republicans want to blame Hunter now for the former losing his re-election bid. Hunter is already the subject of a grand jury, so the Congressman with 3 friends who flipped on him in a sex trafficking case probably should keep a lower profile, unless the point is to cash in all his chips now before that indictment turns up for himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Burner phones. Trump claims to have never heard of them, even though they are crucial to his lawsuit against Mary L Trump, whom he claims used burner phones, thereby in his lawsuits own words, evidenced her criminal guilt:

    If Trump was found to have used burner phones, his own legal arguments have helped enshrine he knows what a burner phone is, and how it’s use may be criminal, and that even found to be using one should be used as evidence of guilt

    meanwhile, Russian TV now is calling for regime change in the US, and to have their “ally,” Donald Trump, installed as the new regime head

    This comes on the same day Trump publicly summoned for Putin to give him more political favors in the form of dirt on Joe Biden.

    Theres no veils here, just Trump and Russia making it overt and self evident that they desire to collude with one another.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    He still wants to relitigate the 2020 election, this time with a TV debate. lol

    Having lost all battles under the color of law (and one not under the color of law), Trump hopes to at least earn popular ratings, and money for himself, even if he couldn't manage to win the popular vote. Which is equally fascinating because he proposes this idea, to monetize such an important public conversation, while he is casting aspersions at the Biden WH for being corrupt. If this is part of his forthcoming insanity defense plea, I am enthralled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭francois


    He's also a traitor,and needs to be punished as such.

    in a war time situation, a multiple loser calling on a potential enemy for dirt on the commander in chief



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    .

    Post edited by Cody montana on


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