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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,589 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    The article backed up the claim made in the headline.

    As did the sentence the other poster highlighted, even though the poster got it wrong believing it didn`t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,589 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Constant posting this kind of sh1te really cannot be good for your mental health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,589 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    You leaving it is probably for the best.

    Trying to dig your way up out of a hole is never a great idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,589 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    it`s clear if you read the post brokenangel got it wrong.

    As to the rest, I was serious. All that pointless rambling negativity really cannot be good for you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,589 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    For the first point then you either didn`t read the post or you just don`t want to know.

    For the second, sadly it is probably true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Yeah lol. You're talking nonsense again.

    Banana if you ever bother actually reading anything - the context to that comment was turf cutting and lighting fires. Where you hillariously claim the only reason that people would have lit a fire in summer was if they were camping 🤣😅😂

    So yeah the bolloxology about milking and silage and what ever other level of nonsense in your comments truely takes the biscuit there.

    You do seem to delight in tying the discussion up with idiotic nonsense and arguing ad nauseum about it.

    Btw you ironically still haven't answered the question asked after your last bizarre diatribe. I reckon your emoji certainly sums that up 🤪

    @ Banana Republic 1 said:

    "Especially since you and the three musketeers don't answer anything."

    So again do provide proof please and link of me not "answering anything"

    Ed. I see you've moved on from accusing posters of being reregs and having multiple accounts to a new accusation of editing comments! Yeah I do that sometimes for spelling 'cos I have dyslexia. Happy now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    You spend a lot of time telling every one else how they got it wrong and how you have spent 8 years posting on this topic. Then when you actual post any information you fall flat on your face.

    Might be an idea to stop ranting at everyone and listen to what others are saying

    If the big plan is to wait till fossil fuel is so high we can't buy it then you have made an excellent decision.

    The rest of us need to look at a long term plan which means Ireland produces it own electricity using the resources we have, wind/water/sun ect. Putting money into renewables now will produce electricity which can then be sold back into the European grid when we have excess, actually making us money.

    Or we could follow the plan of some, just keeping burning fossil fuels as the price goes up and up and up, then complain when electricity goes up and up and up. I know which one I would prefer.

    I also doubt the 750k is correct, anything to back that up?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Looks like the EU 'green' energy policy based on marginal pricing where we price for electricity is pegged to the most taxed / most expensive component of energy generation, regardless of how much or how little renewables are used is going to come home and bite us in the arse big time.

    Industry figures predicted that Irish electricity prices will rise “40 to 50 per cent”, while gas customers could face a doubling in their bills as the volatility continued through the day.

    He believes that the volatility will continue until Europe increases imports of liquid natural gas (LNG), allowing it “to turn off the tap” on Russian supplies. “Then the price will drop back down,” he said


    And of course the Irish greens aren't going to allow the citizens of Ireland avail of cheaper LNG as they have already announced their mission to prevent all Liquefied Natural Gas infrastructure and terminals in Ireland.

    Heres a nice photo of the greens gloating about screwing the Irish people yet again.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    It's an excellent picture. Trying to protect Ireland and the World for future generations is not gloating. The war is pushing up the price. We don't need a LNG terminal.

    Plus as I already explained the LNG terminal is a private company, which won't be built till 2027 at best. THey will sell to highest bidder. It will do nothing to resolve the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo




    I note that comment is directed at another poster. However what's clear is that it doesn’t to anything for your argument. I believe the poster once mentioned they had been posting for about 8 years.

    I do get it that you want to try and convert everyone to the idea that the green party somehow knows what there doing and/or their ever increasingly bizarre policies somehow make sense.

    But the thing is that type of badgering and hitting posters over the head with something they might once have said does nothing to support your argument.

    If you really want to convince others you're always right this is a great book to start with

    https://www.dubraybooks.ie/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people_9780091906818



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    quick question banana and angel (or maybe the same person?) will we need gas to generate electricity for the rest of 2025 and 2026 do you think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    1 You accused me of not knowing about rural Ireland, that’s why I brought up rural activities, I’m actually have a farming background.

    2 The “claim” about fires in summer was rhetorical. You changed from talking about turf and energy to fitness. so you should smell what your shovelling in that regard.

    3 I see you appropriated my reference to the three Musketeers there was a fourth protagonists in that tale known as Dartagen and his character was based on a real person and the other three were fictional characters, but that analogy flew straight over your head like a sod of turf into a trailer.

    4 I was merely helping you to remember what and when you posted it. I have no issue with post editing cause everyone makes typos or what not. Many here need to be reminded of what they posted cause they have a habit of changing the subject.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    OK let's spell it out once again.

    We need natural gas. We need natural gas to help stabilise renewable energy generation. We need natural gas for energy generation during the period of transmission to more renewables energy projects.

    The greens policy is certainly not "Trying to protect Ireland and the World for future generations"

    Its bullshit. Especially considering the greens have already moved to shut down all future natural gas exploration in Ireland

    And on that I see you missed this.

    Industry figures predicted that Irish electricity prices will rise “40 to 50 per cent”, while gas customers could face a doubling in their bills as the volatility continued through the day.

    He believes that the volatility will continue until Europe increases imports of liquid natural gas (LNG), allowing it “to turn off the tap” on Russian supplies. “Then the price will drop back down,” he said

    Btw why the non stop drum banging about Kerry? You "explained"? Give us a break.

    You do know that LNG terminals can be built in other places than just Kerry yes? There is the current proposal to build a LNG terminal at Shannon and afaik several others in the pipeline. The sooner the better this happens the better for the country as a whole

    Post edited by Mecanudo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    The LNG terminal wouldn’t be state owned and the Americans don’t do favours fiscally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    FYI angel and banana (Angelana or banangel?) we are generating electricity using gas at 64.1% and coal at 18.05%.

    renewables account for 3.03%.

    Still think we don’t need gas?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    So more rambling nonsense trying to explain the rubbish you posted?

    Btw you still haven't answered the question asked

    It does especially since you and the three musketeers don't answer anything.

    But do provide proof please and link of me re not "answering anything"

    Btw re typos - you can check I did not change the "subject" so give it a rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    So the country will just get screwed then? Thats the plan?

    Ireland to miss out on US plan to supply EU with gas because we don’t have a terminal

    Washington and Brussels agreed on Friday to source liquefied natural gas (LNG) supplies via ship in case Russia reduces or cuts off natural gas supplies to Europe as a result of tensions in Ukraine.

    The United States and the EU are working jointly towards continued, sufficient, and timely supply of natural gas to the EU from diverse sources across the globe to avoid supply shocks, including those that could result from a further Russian invasion of Ukraine,” US President Joe Biden and European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said in a joint statement.

    We commit to intensifying our strategic energy cooperation for security of supply and will work together to make available reliable, and affordable energy supplies to citizens and businesses in the EU and its neighbourhood.”





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Don’t know why don’t you write a letter to MM, LV and ER and ask them and post up their replies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Maybe you should?

    Its obvious these issues is not just me being concerned that the green party policies are destroying the country. We have nearly 6000 comments in this thread alone.

    I believe LV and MM have already outlined the need to put a stop to the green party and its deranged energy policies

    And once the gp and ER are fuqed out in the next election, it will be full steam ahead for securing a safe, secure and reliable natural gas supply for the country




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Currently we do I never denied that but just simply building bigger holding tanks for it won’t solve that issue it will just make us more reliant.

    When new renewables come along in the next 5 to 8 then the tables will turn

    FYI it’ll take that long to build the terminal anyway.

    they’ll be a 26km gas pipline cuting across rural Kerry remember the opposition to a similar pipeline during the corrib affair, the locals didn’t like it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    The problem with the Kerry LNG, as explained multiple times, is the LNG is fracked.

    It is also owned by a US company who want to dump it into Ireland because they have easiest access to the US and then to Europe. SO it reduces their costs. It provides no stability ot Ireland at all

    Maybe that's the 5-6th time I explained that, you have never said once I am incorrect but you go off down the same rabbit hole again. So maybe answer the questions now

    1. Do you understand what fracked LNG is?
    2. Do you understand a private company will own the Kerry plant and will have no requirements to sell to Ireland at all?
    3. Do you also understand the only reason it is been put into Kerry is because it is better for the private company and has nothing to do with Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Mecanudo saidMaybe you should”

    Why should I, you have the problem.

    Mecanudo said  “We have nearly 6000 comments in this thread alone.”

    Ya most them are in response to the three Musketeers bate and switch posts..

    Pascal Donughue is on radio 1 now and hes not briefing against the Greens in fact he is brief against LNG.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    No we dont need it.

    Shure unpredictably weather and magic will supply our grid.

    One of the Healy Rae's had the right term.

    Airy fairy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    I believe I answered this in this page.


    Re Healy Raes, they get there construction plant in to the development, it’s what they do with the roads. 💶



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Healy Rae and the clan are involved in the Kerry LNG. That alone should mean everyone should run a mile. How many back handers and dodgy deals are currently going on for that family of chancers to put their name to anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Angel denied we need gas. I just presumed you were the same person 😉.

    Forget about LNG for a sec, should we not be at least looking for gas fields to use that won’t be fracked gas?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Would you stop with the nonsense.

    And again youre back accussing posters of having multiple profiles like the last time

    @Banana Republic 1 "Sure there so many multi profiles here even you can't keep up"

    If you think writing a letter as per your suggestion will make any difference off you go and do it yourself

    And its the country which has a problem with the gsbites in the gp and those who support their deranged energy policy.

    As for what's on the radio - there's no accounting for eejits



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