Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

Undertaking just isn't a thing in road legislation, there are of course laws around when you can and cannot overtake on the left.

That is a real cop out attitude.

It just means ordinary citizens so nothing and let the antisocial element run riot. If I see someone littering or not cleaning up dog poo I absolutely will say something. Equally then other day when I saw a guy reversing through a pedestrian light with kids crossing I absolutely said something. Your attitude is head down and walk on where you might call the Gardai when you are out of sight. That is a complete abdication of your responsibility as a good citizen.

Hmm.. worked out for Seth didn't it? Guy was clearly embarrassed and as a result drove at him.

Leave the superhero vigilante stuff out and just concentrate on being the best you can be on the road.

Good drivers and cyclists account for **** behaviour.

Lol it's fine. You carry on chasing people into dark alleyways and car parks for every little infraction.

I can no more stop you from doing that than I can teach arseholes how to drive it cycle better.

Is it prohibited for a cyclist to use the main road (100km speed limit) when there is a cycle lane available .?

I never said I did that

Nor did I claim this

Maybe its better to state your opinion than letting people guess? The implication was certainly there ("let them off" etc) considering the conversation you are replying to.

Mine is clear - I do not agree that it is worth chasing down drivers who do something stupid (either by mistake or deliberately). I think it rarely helps and is more likely to escalate a situation.

Off of the back of that there have been contorted examples of dog crap from a neighbour, someone reversing at pedestrians, litter picking and all sorts of other irrelevant examples to the example given (chasing someone down to a car park to give out to them).

You see it enough times on Eurosport.

Again, lots of assumptions here aimed at justifying confrontation. How do you, or Andrew, know what effect your aggressive approaches are going to have? Reasonable communication is one thing, which is obviously perfectly acceptable, but what's being talked about here is not that.

The amount of shocking cycling and driving etiquette I see every day on my commute is crazy, from both sets of road users. Yet, the majority of drivers and cyclists are great. I prefer to acknowledge that.

I've no more evidence than you/ Andrew, but I'm of the view that a driver who has displayed disregard for other road users and is then wound up by one of those road users who he/ she has little regard for, is only going to be more of a menace on the road until he/ she has calmed down.

I'm not looking to tell anyone how they should react in situations like Seth's - if confronting the driver is what someone feels is the right thing to do in the circumstance, so be it. But I'm wary of encouraging this as being the approach that everyone should take.

Yeah don't disagree that there was nothing (legally) wrong. Just my read of the situation would be that's it's better to hold off for all concerned. i.e. having seen the signal, I would have given them priority and not have a situation develop that could have been avoided (initially the car had the option to avoid it and they passed up the opportunity. Second person that was able to avoid it was the cyclist).

Ah come on, the black suv had the indicator on in plenty of time for the cyclist to see it!! Rewatch the video and you'll see how long the indicator was on.

If I was the driver I would have waited but equally if I was the cyclist, I would have given way.