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171 Mazda 6 DPF issue 'Soot accumulation in DPF is too high'

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What do ya mean mapped?

    it’s already costing me a massive pain in the ar*e!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    This one is a big issue with these and frankly would worry me.

    There was a thread here now deleted I believe where the OP had the same issue (not dpf I think)


    Mazda essentially fobbed him off for months. Put sensors in his car to record his driving and essentially did everything possible to delay and distract. He had solicitor involved etc.


    The high oil is due to excessive regen and is unburnt fuel in your oil.


    The mapping people are taking about is to essentially pull out the dpf and hook a computer to the car to achieve this completely. I'd be wary. Next year or two could easily see NCT hooking to obd and checking for such bollixing.


    See how Mazda treat this.

    If they fix everything you'll need to decide is it worth keeping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Removal of the DPF and mapping out from the ECU. While it will prevent the issue from happening again, it could result in NCT issues down the line.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’m thinking g of asking the garage where I bought the car (was not a Mazda garage) to swap for another car of similar value.. highly unlikely, but I’ve lost all faith in it..

    If they don’t..am seriously thinking of trading it in for another car, but what’s the likely hood of another dealership pretty much swapping for another car?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Two problems here, the op isn't dealing with Mazda he bought the car from an independent garage who at this stage are going to tell to bog off. Second problem? Mazda themselves can't fix these cars either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Very little chance unfortunately, all the dealers are aware of the nightmare these cars can be and will give you feck all, if anything for your car. There was a beautiful metallic red one on a main dealers forecourt locally they practically had it on the road trying to shift it... I think it went to the auction after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    At the rate it's filling the dpf and sump with crud and diesel it'll either blow up on the emissions test or fail anyway.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can they not just replace the DPF?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tough sh*t.. :)

    this is the 3rd times it’s gone now in 6 months.. they have to fix it, what are they waiting for the warranty to run out.. that won’t hold because they haven’t addressed the issue that has occurred under warranty!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Sure they can replace the dpf but that's only curing the symptoms not the disease, in another few months you're back where you started, without warranty this time.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Balls…



  • Posts: 468 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is load of car owners who bought wrong type of car. Luckily, they can buy washing machine (electric car) and forget the all previous troubles. I do not say any word about new kind of troubles, not a single word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    You see, that was the first thing was said to the op, ya ya you bought a big diesel to show off to the neighbours and you only tip up and down to mass once a week it serves you right etc etc.. However that isn't the case, the car is being used correctly, unfortunately the car has turned out to be a lemon.

    The rest of your post is jibberish...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Agree… had to read his post a few times to get an idea of what he was on about..

    anyway, they ran a regen today, so good for now.. will be checking fuel injectors next week. He said he would be able to run tests on the fuel injectors to see which one(s) are faulty, and replace them..

    in the long run of the warning keeps coming up, will have to swap car.. all in all not a bad outcome.

    will see how it goes.. saying and doing are different things :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Get it in writing they will replace your car if issue not sorted.


    They may fob you off and you may have to sell your car to some unlucky person.


    As said masda diesel are known for this multiple complicated issues that block dpf and this car is no exception.

    A thing to note every time your car regenerates or is forced a regeneration then the time to an oil change is sooner. The oil level in dip stick will rise. Never let it get above full. Change oil as often as possible and after any garage forced regeneration.


    Removing/gutting dpf, fixing whatever other issues are present may be only fix short of scrapping car. The dpf will continue to get blocked if something is causing engine to be "smoky" . Replacing dpf for say 1000 euro is no good if it blocks again. The dpf itself may be ok, but keeps getting blocked due to smoky engine.


    If you are into your computers and electronics you can see when regens are happening with an obd dongle and a phone app. Forscan is a good app for Mazdas and can show you dpf temperature etc. If you run forscan not on a phone but on a laptop with a USB dongle you can see more and do more. If regenerations are happening too often fuel consumption will be terrible and engine oil will need changing much more frequently. I went through this whole dpf nightmare in the past.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would ya be able to run a manual regen using this:

    FORScan OBD2 USB Adapter for Windows, Car Diagnostic Coding Tool OBDII Auto Scanner with MS-CAN/HS-CAN Switch for Ford Lincoln Mazda Mercury Series Vehicles https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B092LKXSL9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_K1C22BGTW47WWH1TJZ3K

    does the forscan software cost, or free?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I think it's more the failed regens that cause the oil level to rise. It could be the simplest thing that causes the regen to fail, finding it is a whole other problem 😡



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah, regens are happening, as between each time the warning comes up I’m doing about 3000km..

    how frequently do regens run I.e. about every 300 miles?

    if so several regens run in the 3000kms it does between when the warning comes up!

    could the fuel injectors be causing this behaviour?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Honestly it could be anything. I heard of a 2014 Skoda Superb that wouldn't regen and the only fault present was for a faulty seat heater, heater was fixed it was a broken connector and regens started working... The joys of motoring eh? Are there any faults flagged on your car? (Besides regen obviously)



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    image.png

    This is the fault logged re fuel Injectors



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Weezer84


    Hi Rockdrummer4,

    Its not the dpf, work for Mazda dealer. We have never replaced a dpf on the 2.2 skyactiv engine ever. They dont give issues. You have four faulty injectors. There is also no point in anyone testing them as they wont show up faulty. The fault code you got from Mazda P243c is to do with over fueling from the injectors. This is common. There was a recall on this issue AJ024E. I would also get the garage to check for carbon build up on the throttle body and the map sensor. Honestly get all your work done through the main dealer, i wouldnt trust the garage you are dealing with. Mazda modified the injectors about two years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    Haven't read all this thread, so you may have gotten the advice already, but sell the car now, or better still get refund.


    I had same car, loved it, had all the same issues, was advised to sell it, didn't get round to it and I also loved the car when it was going,

    ended up having to replace the engine.


    Trust me, it might be painful now getting rid of it, but they are a disaster of a car.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    the car went in today, so will see what garage say.. if they do nothing and the issue comes back they will replace car..

    also if they say they do something, will be bringing back to Mazda to run diagnostics to make sure it’s ok :)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yep, have every intention of doing this, gonna try all via garage and warranty .. see where I get, sure maybe swapping car if issue comes back again!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Right so, finally got the car back last Saturday (after them having it for nearly 6 weeks). They replaced all 4 fuel injectors.

    so hopefully now all is good.

    did notice it was up to 13l per 100km, drivin about 200km since then and down to 9km per 100km

    hopefully after some more driving it will get down to normal, of abt 7.3ish per 100km..

    also just fixed faulty mirror folding with some wd40 and grease..



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,627 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    your driving is mostly motorway driving, and you're getting 7.3l per 100km? seems high?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s an automatic, and maybe with new injectors that will go even a bit lower :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BlakeS94


    They are a lovely car when they're going well, but every single person I know that's owned one got rid of it because of the issues, I'm sorry to be a downer but I don't think 4 new injectors will fix the DPF issues that plague those Skyactiv diesels.

    Maybe the L/100km is so high because the DPF is doing so many active regeneration cycles that the ECU is commanding the injectors to spray loads of extra fuel to try clear the DPF. Cruising on the motorway at 120km/h should yield in the range of 6.0L/100km



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think your wrong there, I know 2 other guys with manual Mazda 6’s, and they get 6.5l per 100km..


    anyway time will tell abt injectors. I did ask on a UK Mazda forum and they advised the injectors could well be the issue with Dpf.. with a very long and technical explanation.. can forward to ya if you wish?


    anyway another 4 months of warranty and if DPF goes again will be getting diff car, as mentioned by dealer before :)



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