Fight for Ireland?

PTH2009 · 01-03-2022 09:15PM

We're all 'sons and daughters of Ireland'

Whatever the **** that term means

marieholmfan · 01-03-2022 09:16PM

Clearly not. Our country is occupied right now but the men of Ireland are too cowardly to take up arms.

Gant21 · 01-03-2022 09:16PM

I was a member of the FCA I’ll fight. Who will take me on?

01-03-2022 09:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716027#Comment_118716027

Is it?

I must have missed that somehow.......where are those occupying forces?

corner of hells · 01-03-2022 09:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716027#Comment_118716027

Will you be taking up arms yourself?

marieholmfan · 01-03-2022 09:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716099#Comment_118716099

Derry , Belfast all over occupied Ireland.

Jinglejangle69 · 01-03-2022 09:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716027#Comment_118716027

Are you in the Ra?

If so is it the one supporting Russia at the moment in Derry?

corner of hells · 01-03-2022 09:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716121#Comment_118716121

Yeah , but are you taking up arms ?

marieholmfan · 01-03-2022 09:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118702275#Comment_118702275

Yes and they were vilified for it by traitors.

marieholmfan · 01-03-2022 09:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716131#Comment_118716131

The OP literally said Irish MEN so what I would do or what I wouldn't do is totally irrelevant.

corner of hells · 01-03-2022 09:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716150#Comment_118716150

So ,barstool republican?

01-03-2022 10:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716121#Comment_118716121

So, northern Ireland, which is not actually a part of Ireland, not even according to our constitution.

do you support dissident republicans? RIRA, CIRA?

saabsaab · 01-03-2022 10:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118697750#Comment_118697750

And he'd win!

Just put him on top of an APC in the Ukraine with a loudspeaker blasting the Russians with poetry. They would be out of there as fast as their legs could carry them.

completedit · 01-03-2022 10:23PM

2 weeks ago I'd have to imagine this was as far from a tech worker in Kyiv as it would be for an Irish person working in Indeed. OK not exactly but sort of. Its easy to stereotype and romanticise but the true horror and bravery is that these are just regular people who find themselves living out a Hollywood movie.

However on the flip side I do think we Irish have a passivity about us where we'd just start deliberating on whether our GDP would increase and if the invasion would result in more jobs for the country. It is just the type of country we are, probably to do with our geography and the fact we were essentially controlled in the most laissez faire way for centuries.

buried · 01-03-2022 10:27PM

Interesting question. I probably wouldn't because it seems that the vast majority on our small island has somehow believed and bought into the current establishments narrative that our nation doesn't matter, our own culture doesn't matter, our own language doesn't matter, that our own people don't matter.

Pretty hilarious when you consider the fact that currently we here are supposed to wholeheartedly brainwashingly believe in the absolute nationhood of the Ukraine, when our own nation can be sold off to the likes of whatever bank/corporation/tech company that wants to have it. But if you complain about that absolute fact, you are labelled some sort of nationalist anti immigrant thug of some description.

So no, I won't fight for the current milieu that control the government. But if some stupid person wants to come try take over my own gaff while I am in it, I will gladly have a right go.

completedit · 01-03-2022 10:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716492#Comment_118716492

This is exactly what I've been thinking. We have no higher goals beyond GDP. Culture and the idea of the nation is used to sell cheese and entice Americans to come here, it doesn't have any real deep roots. It's bizarre watching people defend and believe in something bigger than themselves through this individualistic lens which ironically is the lens Ukrainians are fighting for in a way to pick up.

But tbh in times of globalisation and stability and cultural homogenisation it is hard to feel a deep sense of belonging to one place.

Chorcai · 01-03-2022 11:25PM

Great video by an artist "Would you die for Ireland" I know it was in 2003 but interesting nonetheless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_6dmmxucRU

saabsaab · 01-03-2022 11:37PM

OP could you add a poll? Maybe not just Yes or No.

BaywatchHQ · 01-03-2022 11:53PM

I wouldn't be expected to fight for your 26 county republic nor would I want to. If I was forced to fight for the UK I would try to kill myself asap. There would be more honour in suicide than dying for Britain.

Deregos. · 02-03-2022 12:02AM

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Imagine the video, Micky D ripping off his shirt, thumping his chest and calling out Putin to fight . . after insulting his mother for half an hour.

sutrapall · 02-03-2022 01:01AM

If some nefarious entities had the intention of taking over this country, the sorry excuse of our leadership would be out like a hotsnot to invite them in, out with the red carpet, grovelling, champagne, "have a housing development or two, the shiterag citizens that we've eunichized will pony up income for the rest of your life, no questions asked, take citizenship, why don't you? Oh, a park or two? How about a powerplant? Taxes?! Don't you worry about that, we're all friends here *wink* :)"

Oh, wait a sec...

The morale of this country, outside of a minority, is dogshyt. Corporateville.

Personally, I'd thourougly enjoy kicking a few jaws through the tops of skulls, and I'd doubly relish the opportunity at some of the traitorous dirt masquerading about the place.

Dakota Dan · 02-03-2022 01:38AM

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The majority of photos of Ukrainian celebs taking up arms are fake and old photos, the boxer lad pictured with plumes of black smoke behind him, the boxer woman photoed with a pump action shotgun in her kitchen, do you know that she’d be cannon fodder if she went against the Russians with a shotgun? Then some model one with an air soft gun in a photo that was taken a couple of years back while doing her favourite hobby. Also the media are feeding you bullshit, the Ukrainians have been fighting one another since 2014.

Jim2007 · 02-03-2022 02:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058234859/fight-for-ireland

Every day Irish men and women knowingly put themselves in harms way to support our way of life, it is a pity it takes a war for people to realize this. Over the next 24 hours, just like every other, members of the naval service operating beyond the horizon will conduct boarding parties on some the most they can expect is fishhooks and blocks being tossed on to the rib, but on others they may meet a smuggler who will attempt to take their lives, guards will be called to an incident where someone may fancy their chances, life boat crews will launch in all kinds of seas, firemen will run in the direction of burning buildings and as we know helicopter crews may be lost….. there are many people who we need to thank for their service.

Everyone is concerned with their safety, only a fool would draw arms, go through the various procedures and not consider the possibility that in the next few hours they will meet someone that will without hesitation take their live. But those people have the inner strength to push through and get on with the job.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-03-2022 02:40AM

Would Ireland fight for me? No.

Would I fight for Ireland? No.

Nationality is a social construct.

Strumms · 02-03-2022 03:51AM

fight with what…

https://news.sky.com/story/irelands-military-cannot-properly-defend-country-says-hard-hitting-and-blunt-report-12537597

we haven’t got enough firepower for our defence forces… or indeed enough military personnel…. So if I was to join up it’s into war with a baseball bat and a set of steak knifes….not likely to be of much use…

enabling our wellbeing is so unfashionable….so if successive governments can’t and won’t do it…and instead as they are trying to do now… spending hundreds of millions opening our borders to others…. I couldn’t bother my hole….quite frankly..

what they should be doing is getting on the blower and aiming to double down on ordering 25 or so jet fighters, more tanks… this all blows over, the older stuff is mothballed… a couple of billion in expenditure but if it has to be spent…

Ireland and the ability to defend itself is akin to a person going to sleep with the front door open, their wallets on the hall table beside the car keys and good jewellery… anybody can take our shît and wreck the fûcking place…

you don’t order jet fighters and resource your military for what is or was likely, you resource it for worst case scenario…..and hope they are not needed….

8 of these^^^

Vs….

100’s of this..

sorry but it’s a joke shop of a country.

YFlyer · 02-03-2022 06:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118696273#Comment_118696273

And Simon Coveney

YFlyer · 02-03-2022 06:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118697875#Comment_118697875

Now I know why you got your name....lol

Peregrinus · 02-03-2022 06:51AM

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This is a bizarre argument.

You urge that we spend a couple of billion on 25 jet fighters, more tanks, etc because, right now, we cannot match the Russians. But you completely ignore the glaringly obvious fact that, after we had done all that, we still could not match the Russians. So far as defence against the Russians goes, this would be a couple of billion completely wasted.

If we should resource for the worst case scenario, and the worst case scenario is an attack by Russia, then then is definitely not how we should resource for that scenario.

Not so much a joke of a country, I think, as a joke of a proposal on your part.

Strumms · 02-03-2022 07:11AM

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I’m not suggesting we match them, we couldn’t but what we could do is pose a deterrent to anyone potentially doing us harm.

Norway, a similar population to ourselves…

F35… a combat aircraft…..24 in active service , 18 on order…

So a joke of an opinion on your part… maybe you’d like to ring the Norwegian defence ministry and say… ‘ hey, you jokers are doing it wrong’

Apart from debt levels our economy is doing better yet they have a ‘slightly’ bigger population, I think by 25,000.

yet they are brave, diligent and smart enough to say…we’ll have the resources we need to deter…and put up a fight if needed…

Peregrinus · 02-03-2022 07:46AM

Norway is a member of NATO, and has associated obligations to contribute to NATO defence. If you imagine their air force is intended to equip them to resist the Russians on their own, I have a bridge to sell you.

Fight for Ireland?

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