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When's calving starting 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,588 ✭✭✭tanko


    I’d use a Saler, great comfort at calving time with them, most people would use a Lim i suppose. Which company is your Ai tech with?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,588 ✭✭✭tanko


    I’ve never dealt with them, best talk to your technician.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,456 ✭✭✭straight


    What about speckled park? Nice looking cattle. Mix between Angus and shorthorn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭GiantPencil


    I would have thought she was wide enough at the hips. She was very tall and long for a 2 year old simx heifer. She was off QCD herself who wouldn't have the same tight hips as apostle daughters, he was very bad for it from what I see on ICBF. Crazy to think how much he was being pushed by Progressive when he first came on the scene and plenty fellas got stung when his daughters were calving.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Have never used them. Wouldn’t have thought they’d need them in the shed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Last year bought two. Used one for a calf born middle night that needed warming up the following morning. Kept the Jacket on her indoors for a week. Jackets at 80 cms way too big. Might buy a smaller one, just in case, for this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,456 ✭✭✭straight


    I'm still wearing my school jacket around the farm so I'm hardly going to buy a jacket for the calves... 😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭golodge


    Have tried both calving at ~24months age and at 30+months. Sticking to the older age now. Some of those, which calved at 2 years age, never grew bigger than what they were at the calving. Some got bigger, but none really grew as big as older calving heifers. Have two daughters from the same dam and sire. One calved at 25 months age, another at 33 months or so. Both had similar size at the same age, but their size at the calving and especially now, is completely different. One is almost the smallest cow, another is a little bit bigger than average. All were pretty good at getting incalf, but younger calvers usually took a little bit longer to settle. However, what I like the most about calving heifers older is that they are more mature at that time and I need to worry less about the bulls I use on them. Mainly use limousine, have one incalf to charolaise this year, sometimes use parthenaise or blonde. Rarely have to assist and older ones handle bigger calves way better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Put my new calving gate to good use just there. Pulled a Gamin heifer coming backwards. She wasn't breathing when I got her out, but as I pulled her back onto Clean straw she moved a bit. A big of massaging then and I got her going. Long time since I used the Jack here. Mother a young heifer was gone a little fat to be honest.

    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭Who2


    Handiest calf this year just born. A good size ch heifer of a pb lm cow born onto the slats. I just switched on the cameras and there she was . If they all came that handy I’d be happy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,878 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


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    Put a few on DD earlier, phone was off the hook. Wish I had 100 of them, lovely looking calf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Having a right battle here with this calf. She's still not sucking. I got 2 lts from a local dairy guy and tubed it in to her yesterday. I only managed to get a litre from the mother. Put another litre from the cow in to her this morning. She bucked up as I was tubing her and I got her standing for a few mins. The fun eh... Don't fancy tubing her 3 times a day but a litre is all the cow will give me. Could I give her an extra litre of bought pasteurised milk and mix it in?

    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Can you get some cmr from a local farmer instead of buying a full bag. Pasteurised milk has the fat removed and I doubt it will add to the calf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Just thinking, you can get an injection from the Vet to help the cow let down milk. You say she was a heifer and since the calf was coming backwards she maybe a bit sore. I can't remember the name of the injection but you could also get some dexameth from the Vet to help her get over the soreness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I have some milk replacer here from last year. I'll give her 2 lts of that later. I was walking by the shed a while ago and the calf was up standing on her own so that's a good sign. She's a huge calf and considering what's she's been tru she might just pull tru.

    I had to google cmr by the way.😀

    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Maybe I'm wrong on this but if cow only has small amount I assume its more concentrated, often had a cow with small amounts and no harm came to calf. Also if calf has 1 or 2 feeds got start to leave longer interval, can't be stomach tubing for too many times. ( Often they be sucking themselves too and be fightening with them ! )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Ya, well this morning I left her till late hoping she would be hungry. I had cow in caving gate and calf thrown across small bale of hay. Had teat in her mouth and milk it and all, but no way she should suck.

    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Sorry to hear that, not much you can do other that what you're at then ( you prob know as much as myself anyway ) Find a thick caster sugar paste on finger often helps, but if calf wont stand unaided unlikely to suck on own either



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    In really do swear by the kick start esp when she has come as far as standing a bit. Give them 20 mls, I think, and leave alone for 10 mins. Guide her to cow then if she hasn't found her herself. Think it's like €15 a bottle but does more than 10 doses. Have it here on stand by ready for the 1st one calving. Had big lad last year like that first few days he had to he propped up to drink or on his knees actually. Used really drive him on to drink



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Don't have shares in it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,729 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    A shot of multimin and hunger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I use these laytex teats on a plastic bottle for new born/young calves when I have to either strig colostrum from the cow, defrost it or hand feed a calf for a few days. They are much softer than the peach teats and you can squeeze the bottle to help with milk flow. Honey or as minerleague said caster sugar on the teat can help.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Wouldn’t worry about it. It’s you she won’t drop the milk for. Once calf starts sucking she’ll drop more than enough.

    id Leave it alone and to nature.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    Hold a square of chocolate to the roof of her mouth until it sticks to it, It'll stimulate the calf to suck and she'll latch on to a bottle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dh1985


    You should be able to get a injection from the vet that will kick start the calf sucking. Mix of vitamins/selenium I think it is. Used it last weekend for similar issue to good sucess



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Have you done this yourself ? Must try it sometime, always good to hear different solutions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



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