Galway traffic

They probably also got a new buggy for their kids from the social eight times, too.

I think it's the other way around. Posted submissions cost €1.10 plus the cost of an envelope and paper, and the hassle of addressing each one and bringing it to a post box. There's also an expectation that something posted will have a name and address on it. That can trip up those who would try to game the system. Supermacs found themselves linked to questionable planning submissions a couple of times (Galway and Ennis) because of just that.

The online form, on the other hand, didn't require a name or address and could be submitted in seconds at no cost. I'd say that is much more likely to be gamed than the postal/physical submissions.

400 people out of a population of 80,000? Sorry folks - a few thousand turned out in Tuam to support a Greenway along the old railway line and more than three years later? Still nothing.

If more than 2/3 of the submissions were against the proposal, and councillors are getting it in the neck both from local residents and from businesses, it seems this cycleway is a dead duck.

The two options seem to be made by people who either

1.Don't live in (west of) the city

2.Want to drive the Cycleway agenda whatever the cost.

The current route coastal west of the city is painfully slow as it is,

By forcing car traffic to kingston road which is a clusterfeck as it is, is only going to significantly add to the overall galway car traffic further and lead to chronic tailbacks.

examples thus far on how little it takes for galway to become chockers at the drop of a hat.

• GAA match in Pearse atdium
• Salthill saturdays
• -A car brokendown on the Q Bridge.
• Normal summer tourist volumes

I am a avid cyclist ,but the two options this think tank came up with are ridiculous.

all for a cycleway, but not at all costs!

seems like council have got the money and want to railroad a decision asap.

my two cents

J

exactly. At least that number turned up for the Galway Automeet in Merlin Park yesterday : not a bicycle in sight. Even I don't advocate motoring-centric policy based on that small a number...

VaN,

This where I heavily disagree with you... The proposed routes of taking parking off the prom is anti walkers and anti Swimmers, both groups far larger and more established than cyclists... This will cause a massive backlash and possible out right ban on cycle lanes in the west side of the city for a time to come...

It also doesn't make sense... The simple facts are that only 2.5% of people commute to work/school by bike each morning... This suggest 50 people using out of 2,500 journeys for work each day, the Quincentennial bridge has 2,300 people cross it in the morning. That is just a terrible number. A cycle lane on the Prom isn't going to change that much, it isn't the most effective cycle lane in comparison to other routes which while it annoys other people's activities which they have enjoyed for long time.

A Dr. Mannix/lower Salthill route would link the main schools to Knocknacarra/Kingston/Salthill... IT could lead to a cycle lane down the Kingston Road and a crossing to St John Primary school (thru a field) to create a network of cycle lanes equivalent to a Dutch city... This would be done at effectively no impediment to car traffic or other activities...

This should ave the effect of increasing adoption rates.. If those increase then then cycling can ask for more... At this moment Public Transport should get the space that is coming available as they have higher adoption even with a limited bus service...

Pauline O'Reilly is permanently upset. Don't worry about her.

I wonder is even the 400 realistic?

I've heard of 2 independent people who were down counting it yesterday. One a local journo and one completely against it. The journo counted 273 and the other guy, approx. 300.

*Edited to add before I'm asked! I'm not saying who the two people were. I can't post a link. It's just what I heard today.

I did. Seems a lot less

This thread is depressing to read most of the time but the last couple of weeks have been particularly bad around a 6 month trial.

It's a bleeding trial for a few months and people are not willing to give it a go. This is why Galway traffic will probably never be resolved as people aren't willing to look past themselves. People need to open up to ideas and trial some things and you know what some ideas will be good and some will not be so good, that's the idea of a trial.

For those beating the drum about the Ring Road, it's 10 years away so need some changes now. And also the trial will not remove parking from Salthill, it will reduce it.