What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Tony EH · 09-02-2022 01:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118604187#Comment_118604187

Like a bunch of spinning tops.

Leroy42 · 09-02-2022 02:41PM

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I'm afraid you are thinking too much in the vein of Trump on this one. It has nothing to do with McConnells reelection chances. He, if he decides to run, is a 100% shoe in. That is not what he is doing. This isn't some play based on his own reelection. Not only is he pretty much guaranteed, but its 4 years away so not even on the outside of an agenda.

So, he has nothing to lose but what is he trying to gain? For the easiest option is to say nothing. Something that most of them have been doing for months. This is a noticeable, and targeted, statement for McConnell.

ohnonotgmail · 09-02-2022 02:44PM

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you said it was a losing strategy. In order to be a losing strategy there has to be something to lose. what is it?

Leroy42 · 09-02-2022 02:50PM

Sorry, I meant that indicators that are presented to us, such as Trump satisfaction rating and followers, would assume that such a statement would be a losing strategy. And that is certainly how the GOP have acted over the last year.

So what has changed? Either McConnell has been overcome with a sense of duty and to hell with the negative consequences, or - and this is by far the most likely - something has actually changed. Be that polling numbers, funding returns showing Trump is not generating the expected cash, pushback from Corporate donors, pushback from international partners etc etc.

I certainly don't believe McConnell simply said what he was thinking at the time without any clear objective, particularly given Pence and others statements recently.

TheIrishGrover · 09-02-2022 04:06PM

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So, he has nothing to lose but what is he trying to gain? For the easiest option is to say nothing. Something that most of them have been doing for months. This is a noticeable, and targeted, statement for McConnell.

Don't run in 4 years. Book deal.

Lets' assume that there is a smoking gun that's about to be revealed. Something that will not only scupper Trump's re-election chances but is actually an absolute nail in the coffin. Some final PROOF that he was behind the insurrection (Doubtful but let's assume). Something that will leave the GOP CO CHOICE but to abandon him.

They have gotten into bed with him. Have actively courted, endorsed and wholeheartedly embraced everything Trump. From his trust of Putin over his own intelligence communities to his abandonment of moderate Republicans. To his embracing of more.... um..... fringe elements.

So, assuming there is a smoking gun, they will reluctantly distance themselves. He can come out as the voice of reason (BS of course. The GOP has more flip-flops than a beach in Ibiza) dragging them back to TRUE Republicans. Can be the saviour of the party. What a book deal that would make

Rawr · 09-02-2022 05:02PM

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If there is a smoking gun, I'm perplexed as to what it could be at this stage.

Because even if they had photo of him proudly holding a signed copy of "My Plan to take over America as President for Life, no matter how many of my idiot supporters are hurt or killed in the process. By Donald J. Trump"...I still think he'd hold onto enough of the people who delight at how sh*t of a human being he is.

It would have to be some very spectacular smoking gun I feel.

Tell me how · 09-02-2022 05:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118606380#Comment_118606380

The 74M who voted for him did so before all the stuff emerged with respect to the ineptitude of trying to bring cogent cases of election fraud, the disastrous people around him during that time namely Giuliani, Mike Lindell, Sidney Powell etc. The released phone calls of him trying to force Georgia to find just enough votes so that he could have been declared the winner, inciting an insurrection, allowing it to continue as it did and promising pardons for those involved. His lack of dignity in how he left office and now it emerging that he had tried to destroy official documents and remove more of them.

Maybe McConnell is seeing that while some will stick with him, many more are more likely to stay at home. Trump has never really been a good person to have endorse you so maybe he's concerned that a Trump message in the midterms will also not be as positive for them as they thought it would be.

Or maybe Mike Pence has played his card and let it be known that if Trump is still being favoured by the party ahead of 2024, that he will comment on what he really was like as President to scupper his chances.

More probably I expect that McConnell knows that if Trump runs in 2024 that the Democrat media and advertising strategy has literally been written for them through his ineptitude the first time around.

Probably only a few people know for sure what is going on, maybe it's another trick by McConnell and he might pivot once again.

duploelabs · 09-02-2022 05:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118606380#Comment_118606380

A federal criminal prosecution would suffice

Fathom · 09-02-2022 06:04PM

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The Republicans resolve that the Jan 6 attempted and failed insurrection by Donald Trump was “legitimate political discourse?” Ask Police officer Sicknick. Oh, you can’t? Why not?

Ask the 140 Capital Police Officers that were injured defending the US Congress that day. Defending Vice President Pence, Senate, and House members that were in session that day doing their constitutional duty.

Ask Ashli Babbitt? Huh? Why can’t you? Ask Metropolitan Police Officer Jeffrey Smith or Capitol Police Officer Liebengood. What? Why can’t you?

Watch the vids taken that day. Many posted online by those Trump supporters bragging about what they did. Crushing and beating Capitol Police Officers as they smashed windows and broke doors into the nation’s Capital.

“What does the future hold for Donald Trump?” If he loses again in 2024? Will he concede the loss? And allow for the democratic peaceful transition of power from general election to general election? Or will he scream stolen election again, challenging his followers to attempt yet another violent insurrection like Jan 6? What do you think? “If at first you don’t succeed (2021), try, try again (2025)?”

TheIrishGrover · 09-02-2022 06:05PM

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Agreed. I'm trying to think. It would have to be something that would lose even his white-hood/Red-Hat brigade. Something that would lose him the GOP vote. But as far as I know, he's white, male and straight.....

Quin_Dub · 09-02-2022 06:47PM

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But it really doesn't need to be something that turns the MAGA crowd away, as others have said it's hard to see anything that would change those minds

All it needs to be is something that guarantees that the GOP loses about 500,000 votes across a half dozen states which would be more than enough to lose them the election and a few Senate seats to boot.

McConnell couldn't care less about Trump (or any individual really), he wants to win elections and nothing else matters.

TheIrishGrover · 09-02-2022 07:16PM

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“What does the future hold for Donald Trump?” If he loses again in 2024? Will he concede the loss? And allow for the democratic peaceful transition of power from general election to general election? Or will he scream stolen election again, challenging his followers to attempt yet another violent insurrection like Jan 6? What do you think? “If at first you don’t succeed (2021), try, try again (2025)?”

And if that is not the definition of a terrorist, then what is? On that political jokes thread, one of his klan posted something about how Biden is losing his mind because he called these people terrorists.... Except... y'know, by Oxford English Dictionary, they were. BY DEFINITION:

terrorist

/ˈtɛrərɪst/

noun

a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

adjective

unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Definitions from Oxford Languages

Were there law enforcement in the building they attacked? Yes

Were there politicians in the building they attacked? Yes

Were there civilians in the building they attacked? Yes

I know, I know. I am preaching to the choir. His klan have long since stopped posting here because they have no valid arguments. But it IS worth noting that the GOP now officially endorse a terrorist, a quantifiable enemy of the state, as their presidential candidate.. That sentence alone is damning. But they will continue to endorse a terrorist and embrace his klan if it means they win.

Cody montana · 09-02-2022 09:34PM

The National Archives has asked the Justice Department to examine Trump's handling of White House records.

Wonder what else he stole.

duploelabs · 09-02-2022 09:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118607728#Comment_118607728

Perhaps this is the reason why Pence and McConnell have broken ranks, pure conjecture of course

extra gravy · 09-02-2022 11:31PM

https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1491525010997096449?t=NkNbRf1dhZ59dGnlKyrXWg&s=19

"Nancy Pelosi's gazpacho police" 😂

everlast75 · 10-02-2022 12:51AM

Jesus fúcking Christ...

kowloon · 10-02-2022 01:07AM

That actually seems kind of restrained for Trump.

everlast75 · 10-02-2022 08:16AM

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She obviously has a problem with the democratic adminestrone...

duploelabs · 10-02-2022 08:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118609120#Comment_118609120

Perhaps if you're caught by the Gazapcho then you'll be sent to the ghoulash, all these puns are souper

Fathom · 10-02-2022 08:55AM

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What happened to the Republican claim to be the party of law and order on January 6? As their Republican President Donald Trump encouraged his Republican supporters to attack the Capitol building and its Capital Police Officers while the US Congress was in session?

Can Trump now claim that law and order is one of his campaign promises in 2024?

Itssoeasy · 10-02-2022 09:41AM

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The New York Times are saying the national archives are worried there may have been classified material in the boxes which is obviously serious, but also how stupid does the “but her emails” Sound now ? So if there was classified info in the stuff in those boxes then unless they were stored safely(doubtful) then any one of the club members at his club who’s drank lunch may have found them.

everlast75 · 10-02-2022 10:29AM

Hard to put up their usual ignoramus defence of "I didn't know it's a crime" when they were repeatedly told during his tenure that it was a crime

TheIrishGrover · 10-02-2022 10:50AM

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Well he TRIED to steal a country

Rawr · 10-02-2022 10:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118609164#Comment_118609164

He could very well brand himself as the "Law & Order" candidate, but the meaning for that particular slab of political noise-makers isn't Peace-Keeping & Justice, but rather punitive "Laws" to apply anyone who doesn't fit into their increasingly feral sense of Nationalism, and "Order" to keep anyone they see as undesirable in line.

Quin_Dub · 10-02-2022 11:44AM

Further evidence , if any was needed of the simply staggering incompetence of the "legal minds" that tried to over-turn the Election for Trump.

Sidney Powell and several other Lawyers were sanctioned a while back for filing spurious cases attempting to overturn the Election. One of the things they were sanctioned for was filing legally dubious submissions with loads of errors etc.

Earlier this week , that crack team submitted an appeal to a higher court looking to have those sanctions overturned.

The submission was rejected and returned to them as it was full of errors and had been submitted incorrectly.

So, they wanted to remove the sanctions applied to them for being really bad lawyers so they submitted an appeal that was rejected because they couldn't even manage to fill out a form correctly.

Kinda proves the original point made really , doesn't it?

TheIrishGrover · 10-02-2022 12:37PM

I say they all need to organise a meeting. A get together to get all trumps genius lawyers and behind-the-scenes guys and sort this all out in one meeting. I hear Four Season Total Gardening has room.