"Green" policies are destroying this country

you couldn't be more wrong, I'm outdoors all the time and super fit - if you like you can have a look at my social media and see how beautiful I am, a proper Adonis - PM me if you want my social media profiles.

You hold opinions about how and where I live and what you mistakenly think I cost you. Greenie and hypocrite are interchangeable terms. I believe I once saw you claiming to be a vegan.

According to the Eirgrid online smart meter atm - system generation is currently running at 3.5 % renewables and 84.91 % Thermal Generation (coal, gas, other) and 11.9% net imports.

All these wind generation farms are making fek all of a contribution tbh.

And whilst I know that's a snapshot. I dont know anyone who wants to be paying for that level of thermal generation in 10 years time when people won't be able to afford to keep the lights on due to these wonderful new carbon taxes.

So in plain English all the waffle about renewables being cheaper is a load of rubbish benefiting nobody other than the providers if a country such as Germany which uses only 9.3% natural gas and 47.3% renewables is pricing based on the price of natural gas.

Your 100% of demand being met with wind solar and nuclear is nothing other than a pipe dream, so it would be a very dumb business enterprise that did not make sure whatever percentage needed to make up the difference was the most expensive option it could find. No surprise that Germany has the highest priced electricity in Europe.

I`m sure there electricity providers must be delighted that they are closing down their nuclear plants. Energy coming from a reliable source rather than one that depends on the wind blowing or the sun shining would dent their profits. Or as you put it, as I have no doubt the companies involved also termed put it "the opportunity to recover investments and operating expenses"

I do not know where you believe I have been shown wrong on this thread. As far as I remember my only engagement with you may have been on packing rural dwellers into villages ? If it was then I do not remember you exactly covering yourself in glory on that subject.

Nah, was hoping to be able to eat for a while yet

you're a very odd man coming on here and throwing personal abuse around by the way

To be fair I think the point he was trying to make is the reason we are so tied to gas prices is because renewable output is so unpredictable and the electricity companies need to hedge for the worst case backup which currently is gas, you can argue that from either point of view but it does seem we are moving from being at the whims of Russia to a future of at the whims of mother nature and a changing climate while our electricity demands will continue to rise year on year, its a dilly of a pickle to be sure!

True. And one of the reasons thermal generation via coal, gas, oil etc is so expensive and will get more expensive? Rising carbon taxes. A self fulfilling prophecy.

Restrictions lifted, no reason for current government to continue, start piling the tyres for the end of the Greens in government

Incorrect. I did not make the claim that renewables are responsible for high energy prices.

I questioned why if renewables were this low cost energy alternative we were told it would be it was not reflected in the price of electricity. The three examples I gave were of countries with roughly the same percentage of renewables but with huge variations in the percentage of the most expensive none-renewable, (natural gas), yet the price of electricity for all three was virtually the same.

The answer from you was that no matter how high the percentage of renewables in the mix, the price of electricity is determined by the most expensive (now natural gas) regardless of how low the percentage contributed. In plain English it does not matter how high a percentage comes from renewables you are going to pay the same price if all the supply came from none-renewables, and for Ireland with all our eggs in the wind energy basket that is going to continue forever and a day as wind, (or indeed solar), are not dependable sources for a continuous uninterrupted supply and will always need a none-renewable added to the mix. Something I doubt energy supply companies have failed to see is the equivalent of a money printing machine, except it is not free money. It`s money fleeced from the consumer on top of all the carbon taxes, levies, surcharges etc. they are already being fleeced by and which are set to rise even higher.

There is nothing in this system of pricing where renewables will result in us having having lower electricity charges. Especially not with wind or solar being the only two renewables.

well according to the likes of you and commenters on thejournal.ie climate change is just something the Greens use to make your lives miserable by taxing you. I'm sure when they're out of government all these taxes will be reversed though, so you only have to wait another 3 years or so.

You and your ilk are completely deluded, and I have to hand it to the other parties when they have you all convinced the Greens are the reason you're unhappy and broke.