Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

magicbastarder · 15-01-2022 01:26PM

yep, downhill cyclists are expected to use the bus lane, uphill cyclists use that path. which leaves uphill cyclists who want to go past the junction of home farm road wondering what they're meant to do; i suspect that path wouldn't have been placed there were it not for a school being on the road, but again, what are kids cycling home from school uphill meant to do?

if you're heading in the direction of ballymun from the city centre, the cycling signs direct you past the botanic gardens, and to take a right at the met building, up old ballymun road, i.e. avoiding the uphill on mobhi road.

Effects · 15-01-2022 01:50PM

I often take Homefarm Road when cycling with a mate, and when we get to Mobhi Road he cycles down this path and I'm on the road. I'll point out the direction to him.

I rarely head the Ballymun direction myself, but if I was coming from the city centre I wouldn't go via botanic gardens and then met office. I'll have a look at the maps/distance now though. I had to head to from city centre to Decathlon last year and still just went straight up Mobhi Road. I was under time pressure though.

I cycle a good bit with a kid these days as well, and find I change my route based on what I think is safer with her on board.

Effects · 15-01-2022 02:08PM

I wouldn't agree with you on the carpenter analogy. A carpenter is just as likely to rush his work, to get more done, but at a lower standard.

magicbastarder · 15-01-2022 02:14PM

Someone else said that artic drivers should be held to higher standards than taxi drivers. It could be argued that taxi drivers carry much more precious cargos than artic drivers.

true, but it's not just the occupants we have to worry about.

magicbastarder · 17-01-2022 06:51PM

a close pass video (well, the aftermath of the initial close pass) with two twists - the verbal exchange is as gaeilge, and the cyclist was threatened with a caution for use of foul language when the gardai were shown the video:

https://twitter.com/CyclingForMind/status/1482812125785600005

i think that might be the road into carna in connemara? coming from the south east.

CramCycle · 18-01-2022 12:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490782#Comment_118490782

So apparently the guy was waiting for him after he cursed him for overtaking on a blind bend, this was in fact the second time he pulled in to threaten him. And the gardai are threatenign the cyclist with being at fault for using bad language. **** me, what's the point anymore, may as well just have a weapon in the pannier and sort it out at he scene because clearly the gardai don't give a f*ck anymore

18-01-2022 12:51AM

I got the impression the guy had to follow up a few times and this was the Gardaí response to him looking for them to do their job.

fat bloke · 19-01-2022 04:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491712#Comment_118491712

The driving is awful but the Gaeilge is delicious. And wonderful to hear in the wild.

"Cuirfidh mé suas an ceamera sin id focain tóin"

"Overtake-áil leoraí níos fairsinge"

"Leveleáilfidh mé thú a chuint"

Proof the Irish language is alive and well, at least as long as they stop almost mowing each other down!

AndrewJRenko · 19-01-2022 05:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500843#Comment_118500843

Don't suppose anyone would like to provide bilingual subtitles for those of not skilled in the oul Gaeilge?

MacDanger · 19-01-2022 06:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490782#Comment_118490782

Does he post a video of the original incident at all? Would be interesting to see it so as to get the full background to the story

CramCycle · 19-01-2022 06:08PM

People in Galway speak awfully fast, so I could be wrong. I struggle a bit but I am pretty sure many of those words were taught to me at a school going age but not in class,

F*cker

I'll talk to you

I'll put that camera up your ars*

I overtook you with loads of space

I'll level you you c**t

I think that's it, my son told me I had to stop listening as he suspected they were not speaking Irish

Suvarnabhumi · 20-01-2022 11:09AM

Before the wands were installed on this stretch of road, cars used to block the cycle path, while waiting to turn left to go to Dundrum Shopping Centre. Since the wands were installed, the road has become a death trap. I'm continuing on straight towards the lights in each clip.....

The last clip is from this morning.

https://streamable.com/qu0kaf

https://streamable.com/25eyrs

https://streamable.com/3vuuo4

magicbastarder · 20-01-2022 11:16AM

might be worth pinging the council about that?

Suvarnabhumi · 20-01-2022 11:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118504683#Comment_118504683

I sent an email this morning, with the clips.

VonLuck · 20-01-2022 12:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118504640#Comment_118504640

I'm not sure what's happening. Are you not turning left in each clip?

Suvarnabhumi · 20-01-2022 12:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118504986#Comment_118504986

I'm being forced to go left to avoid the cars that are cutting across me as my intended route is to go on straight.

magicbastarder · 20-01-2022 12:29PM

there are several junctions like that where i like to take the middle of the lane when going straight on, to avoid left hooks - the bollards make it harder to take the middle of the lane.

20-01-2022 12:31PM

Yeah, until they change the design guidelines for junctions to be like Dutch junctions this will continue

magicbastarder · 20-01-2022 01:33PM

inbound on the rock road as you approach the bottom of mount merrion avenue was one of the more problematic junction when i was commuting. the motorists had helped slightly in that they kept hitting the bollards and breaking them off.

magicbastarder · 20-01-2022 01:41PM

they're completely redesigning the junction where griffith avenue becomes griffith avenue extension, at the bottom of ballymun road. it looks like a bad compromise all round from what i've seen. i guess i'm not the target audience there though, AFAIK one of the main drivers is to make the route safer for kids cycling to and from school, there are several schools on or near griffith avenue.

Effects · 20-01-2022 02:14PM

When you say banning left turns, do you mean from Griffith onto Mobhi Road?

Doesn't that leave you having to do a loop around the triangle there, or else a left onto one of the island roads from Griffith Ave, right onto Homefarm, and left onto Mobhi. Rat running essentially.

magicbastarder · 20-01-2022 02:32PM

they seem to have achieved it by making the junction overcomplicated from what i could see; cyclists won't be able to cycle in a straight line through the junctions, but will be forced to shimmy twice, once each side of the junction, by raised chicanes. i might have misread the junction though, but i'd say cycling through it if you're not familiar with it, on a dark rainy night (especially when it's such a unique design) could be confusing.

VonLuck · 20-01-2022 02:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505017#Comment_118505017

Oh right! Thought in the last clip (night time one) you were turning left anyways given that the car had past you and you still turned.

Regardless, if you weren't signalling left you shouldn't have been cut off.

CramCycle · 20-01-2022 04:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505638#Comment_118505638

Oddly enough, the cars won't have seen this but from my reading of the paint on the road, Suvarnabhumi should technically signal right to go straight there. A technicality as the cars won't see that point, in much the same way they didn't see the cyclist but it might help the motorist notice them until the council fix it.

20-01-2022 05:05PM

Yeah I'd probably stick an arm out there if I was stuck in that cycle lane. Preference would be not to be in it in the first place coming out to that kind of junction.

Effects · 20-01-2022 05:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506616#Comment_118506616

If you weren't going straight, wouldn't you be taking that left slip? Or does that just take you to the lights to cross?

magicbastarder · 20-01-2022 07:08PM

https://twitter.com/JoannaDonnellyL/status/1484203127503036420

BoardsMember · 22-01-2022 01:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468957#Comment_118468957

Only enforcement will change behaviour. Otherwise the implications of driving badly are irrelevant.

I just don't see why we can't have red light cameras. They were in Oz in the 90s. I drove over there a lot. It conditions you to being a better driver all round. Respecting speed limits, driving with more care.

And the corollary is also true, having very low enforcement leads to negative behaviour.