Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

phog · 12-01-2022 11:13AM

The galling thing for me from the interviews from the Ulster game was JvG behaviour during the prematch interview drew the wrath of the panelists but DMcF behaviour during the post match interview was glossed over.

Neither of them covered themselves in glory and neither of them will be alone having a snarky interview once in a while.

12-01-2022 11:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460272#Comment_118460272

Also heaslip calling him out for being "a barrel of laughs" is fairly hypocritical given his press conferences during his career. Much adorable about nothing imo

sydthebeat · 12-01-2022 01:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118454502#Comment_118454502

My problem with this Matfield thing is the only source is a Welsh crank on Twitter, who if you are unfortunate enough to be familiar with, is an anti-vaxxer level of objectivity while commenting on Irish rugby. The clip isn't anywhere. Normally a clip of a show is linked or posted on an article.

https://fb.watch/auyJ2EUp6f/

Matfields words are a bit muddled here.. hes doesnt say that JVG said "all the best players go to munster"... but its more that Matfield himself says "all the best players go to leinster... the local players, they all go to leinster"

its obviously Matfield talking about something he hasnt a clue about

molloyjh · 12-01-2022 01:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460981#Comment_118460981

Yep. He is basically just saying that Leinster have a better squad, JVG tried to address that in part by looking to improve the tight 5 through RGS and Jenkins. Neither have worked out due to injury so that’s been frustrating. Absolutely nothing at all to see here. Matfield is just used to the SA model and doesn’t appreciate the specifics of our one here.

Former Former Former · 12-01-2022 01:38PM

Matfield

He feels bad because he really enjoyed his time at Munster. He loves the people there but he said it's very difficult, he said with... all the great players go to Leinster so he has to compete and come second in every competition, but he doesn't win trophies, Leinster have got this amazing team, they've got 14 or 16.. and again financially he's trying to get the guys from outside to come make a difference. The local players, most of them go to Leinster so it's very hard.

I guess what we don't know is what JVG actually said vs how it's being paraphrased by Matfield but the original tweet is pretty accurate tbf.

TBH the main difference for me between the original tweets and what was actually said is that the comments about IRFU and Nucifora didn't come across as complaints or criticism, rather that it's been a help to JVG as an inexperienced coach?

aloooof · 12-01-2022 02:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460981#Comment_118460981

Good find Syd, nice to actually see the clip. For me, I think it's pretty clear Matfield is inserting his own (not especially well informed) opinion rather than quoting JVG. Nothing in it really.

Akrasia · 12-01-2022 02:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460413#Comment_118460413

Much adorable about nothing

Sometimes the autocorrect is worth it :)

Cookiemunster · 12-01-2022 04:22PM

5 more contract extensions for Munster including a 2 year deal for RG Snyman.

Roman Salanoa (3 years), Scott Buckley (2 years), Liam O'Conner (1 year) and Stephen Archer (1 year) also sign new contacts.

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2022/01/12/key-players-continue-to-commit-to-munster-rugby/#post

razorblunt · 12-01-2022 04:28PM

Snyman!!!!

let us all pray to the second row God (John Langford) that he gets a run next season onwards.

Clegg · 12-01-2022 04:31PM

Surprised at the Snyman extension. He's essentially played no rugby in 18 months after two serious knee injuries. Must have a lot of faith that they can get him back to his best.

clsmooth · 12-01-2022 04:50PM

Hmm, not sure RG Snyman is a good investment at this stage after doing 2 knees. Hope to be proved wrong as he’s an exciting talent but didn’t he have issues with injury pre World Cup too with his ankle??

Eod100 · 12-01-2022 05:01PM

Zebo cleared to play at the weekend

jimdemp · 12-01-2022 05:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462759#Comment_118462759

" He's essentially played no rugby in 18 months " obviously not a player many clubs see as a worth while risk given his injury record in Japan aswel.

English clubs are offloading players to make the 5 million salary cap.

France? Bernard Lemaitre said Eben Etzebeth as a "handicap" to the Top 14 club due to the lock being expensive and often unavailable through injury and international commitments.

“There is a double problem in recruiting: the Salary Cap and the JIFFs (French-reared players),”

sydthebeat · 12-01-2022 05:09PM

hopefully snyman gets to put a run of games together before POM drops him again ;)

(kidding!!)

awec · 12-01-2022 05:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462940#Comment_118462940

This is a farce to be honest. Zebo shoulders him in the face,

But let's imagine that he didn't, which is even more hilarious, because now the disciplinary process has determined nobody gets a punished because they think they cited the wrong player. You couldn't make this nonsense up any more.

The URC / Pro14 / Pro12 citing process has long been lacking in credibility.

12-01-2022 05:24PM

Jesus that snyman news is very unexpected I'd marked him gone already

aloooof · 12-01-2022 05:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462940#Comment_118462940

That seems crazy to me. Statement mentioned it was Crowley who made the contact and should have been red carded (but now can't be suspended, as the citing windows has closed), and that Zebo made minimal contact. It didn't seem like that from the match angles, so can only assume they had some additional angles, but it still seems really poor from what we saw.

clsmooth · 12-01-2022 05:30PM

I was wondering how Farrell didn’t end up getting cited for his tackle against Connacht? Was it become the ref deemed it a yellow at the time that they couldn’t review it post game?

Pepp1989 · 12-01-2022 05:43PM

Who else is out of contract end of season? I know someone here keeps a very handy list...

Cookiemunster · 12-01-2022 05:45PM

Beirne, Ryan and Earls would be the biggest names left. There are rumours that Ryan is off so Saracens.

UAEguy2020 · 12-01-2022 05:58PM

Funny how people think Zebo was a clear red but then say the Shields hit wasnt 😂. I guess if BT Sport say it’s not a red then it’s not a red!

greenkiwi1 · 12-01-2022 05:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118463188#Comment_118463188

Bierne, Ryan, Earls as mentioned by Cookiemunster

Gallagher, Flannery, SFrench, Goggin, DDA, Osborne, Colette, Jenkins, KOB, JFrench

awec · 12-01-2022 06:02PM

It's good to see Snyman show some loyalty, after all he's earned a decent wedge the past 2 years and not been able to pay it back on the field. He is young enough that 2 more years at Munster isn't that hard a decision, there's plenty of time left on his career to earn megabucks elsewhere. Similar situation to Coetzee at Ulster.

Big boost to Munster.

phog · 12-01-2022 06:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462940#Comment_118462940

All that booing paid off

phog · 12-01-2022 06:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118462699#Comment_118462699

I think most of us would have bet that RGS was out of here after his two years, even with his injury woes I'm delighted he's staying. If we can get a run of games out of him he'll be a huge benefit to us.

phog · 12-01-2022 06:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118463038#Comment_118463038

Well other than not citing someone else they made their decision based on evidence presented at the hearing. It's most unusual for players to get off so Zebo/Munster must have presented some doubt about it and the hearing accepted their evidence.

These hearings are very much legal hearings so I doubt a nod and wink is enough to get a player cleared.

thomond2006 · 12-01-2022 06:39PM

Good for Zebo but that's farcical.

Podge_irl · 12-01-2022 06:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118463118#Comment_118463118

No, all decisions can be cited and reviewed.

Zebo decision seems farcical on the face of it. There is a pretty good angle showing Zebo's shoulder ploughing straight into Lowry's face so I have no idea what they are on about.

TRC10 · 12-01-2022 07:12PM

Farrell and Zebo are two lucky bois

Former Former Former · 12-01-2022 07:29PM

That is absolutely pathetic. The URC deserves every bit of bad publicity it gets because it's a joke of a competition.

If that was a Top14 or Premiership decision in the week of European games, we'd be spitting fire about corruption.

Slap in the face for the match officials too.

Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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