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Booze deals [Megathread #2]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Look sure we'll see what happens. I ordered 2 cases so am prepared to take the risk for the greater good. If it doesnt get through i'll do a charge back. Shocking stuff that 24 bottles of 500ml krombacher is almost 74 quid here. You couldnt justify it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Almost sure it's going to be against the law but good initiative either way. I could see a lot of the independent off licenses going this way. Would be hard to see Tesco etc doing it. In anyways I'd rather pay the MUP price for Heineken than 30 quid for Bud. The Carlsberg export is a strange one. You wouldn't see that in Ireland a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Almost sure it's going to be against the law

    Which part of the MUP legislation do you think that it would be contrary to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    I didn't think vouchers etc could be used. If Credit Notes are being used here if it's not illegal then watch this space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Claimed to be a credit note. It will be interesting to see how it pans out, or if additional legislation is required. And if additional legislation is needed what impact it would have on other areas where credit notes are issued.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    What a fabulous way around the law, very clever. Can't see anything illegal as it's credit note/gift card rather than promo voucher. Only issue for the shop is if a smart alec insists on using the credit note for their regular shopping.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    if a smart alec insists on using the credit note for their regular shopping.......

    They could always buy a bucket and mop!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,604 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    has anyone ever challenged the requirement to bring booze in personally?

    Seems contrary to the spirit of the single market but I understand there are derogations within EU law for certain products.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭EarWig




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Look its a single market for the big boys and government.


    VRT is a glaring one to be honest. Incredible that I cant buy a car in France or Germany for example. Mad stuff really.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,604 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    but you can buy a car in France, you just have to pay a big fee to register it here and you can't drive it legally without registering it.

    booze is just a foodstuff; if I can buy it in France and bring it home in my car without paying any duty, I don't see why I can't get it delivered by a courier for personal consumption. You now have the anomaly that people will be going North to put money into the pocket of the UK exchequer, but can't order directly from an EU company. It seems ripe for challenge in the EU courts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    That's my point.

    Vehicle Registration Tax. It's a tax.

    I should be able to buy anything in a true single market and not have to pay a penny back here extra. It's not a single market. Try to put 3000 fags in your case coming back from Spain and see how you do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Flawed thinking.

    The normal person would simply ignore that at €12 and select a far better wine in Aldi or Lidl for €7.99

    You can be guaranteed that there will be 33% off that muck soon enough. €12 is an artificial high price to fool people into thinking they are getting value at a promo price of €7.99.

    But the anti mup brigade will continue to search and search for unrealistic comparisons.


    Mup simply does not affect the vast vast majority of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06



    Is Guinness muck? Jameson? You might consider it mass market industrial product, but it's not muck. You're talking nonsense.

    They were regularly discounted below MUP.

    ALDI and LIDL had non muck wines below €8 for €6 and €7 euros. ALDI had Ardfallen whiskey with an RRP of €19. Tesco had Manislav lager for €1.50 rrp. LIDL had Oettinger Pils for 89c. Please explain how they are 'muck'.

    TO suggest the vast vast majority of people are not affected - considering the number of people who purchase a branded item below MUP, or such products in Tesco, LIDL, ALDI - is completely without foundation.

    You can't even come up with a definition of what is and isn't "muck", just your own personal snobbery.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭PreCocious


    Surely this hinges on what a credit note is ?

    You can't buy a credit note - it's usually offered as part of a refund for change. What he needs to do is the sell the cups, then encourage people to go through the refund process and receive a credit note.

    It's all for publicity but it does raise accounting issues(at least).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    Makers Mark Bourbon is €35 - think it's normally 45?

    Selection of bushmills - American cask / Caribbean rum - €25

    in tesco



  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Council Directive 2008/118/EC, Article 36 directly covers the distance selling of alcohol across borders and makes it a requirement that excise duty be paid in the destination country.

    So either the seller has an arrangement with the Irish state to collect Irish excise duties (it's clear mybooze.eu doesn't) or anything you buy from them is liable to be seized by Irish customs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,604 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    fair enough - still seems contrary to the principals of the common market IMO but I imagine that it's nearly impossible to challenge if it's a council directive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Yellow Dog





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 adventures


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    Wheat Beer says 1.49, when i paid 1.99 🤨



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Thank god someone’s actually sticking to what the thread is meant for.

    This thread has turned into an absolute sh1t show since MUP.

    Surely that talk could be put in a new thread mods leaving this for actual bargains north or south instead of the pages and pages of whining with those for and against MUP getting their digs in.

    I’ll be buying a bottle of Makers thanks to Ablelocks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,964 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I second that.

    There are two other threads for the chat.

    If we could leave this for the bargains it would be better.

    Even with MUP here will be bargains both in ROI and NI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Probably easiest to fly to UK on a cheap flight for spirits. See an article online about duty free increases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭The Davestator





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Not flawed. It was an example of how we are being ripped off.

    Maybe the thread should be renamed to booze deals - other countries only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭breeno


    Amazon Germany will deliver some spirits here. Decent deals on whiskeys like Redbreast 12 €48, Green Spot €42, Black Bush €22.


    It's 12 quid delivery so you'd want to buy a few to make it worthwhile 😃


    Presume with it being amazon they'll have the customs piece sorted so should be fine.



  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    You can only bring one litre of spirits (per adult) into the EU duty free from Great Britain so it's not a very practical option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Debub


    on just the Redbreast and Green Spot the price difference is almost €40



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭NinetyForNone




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Our Cork friend got a 'visit' today after the story broke and decided to cease his promotion. I'd have supported his 'gofundme' if he had one. Hopefully one of the big boys decides to take the risk and bring it to court if necessary.

    Post edited by Buffman on

    The below is a general 'signature' and not part of any post:

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



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