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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Anyways, back to actual on the field matters.

    Some good news in that POM and Kleyn are back in training and DDA is still not ruled out of the game and will be assessed later in the week.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    He didn't go back on his contract. He exercised a clause and is leaving in the summer. The answer to MK wasn't great but the coverage up to that game by the media was pretty horrible. You then had the RTE commentator calling for his head throughout the game.

    On his departure, JVG didn't bullshit around like Rassie did either.

    My problem with this Matfield thing is the only source is a Welsh crank on Twitter, who if you are unfortunate enough to be familiar with, is an anti-vaxxer level of objectivity while commenting on Irish rugby. The clip isn't anywhere. Normally a clip of a show is linked or posted on an article.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Fwiw, I didn't see too much wrong with the interview, he didn't want to discuss his contract situation on air before a vital match for us and he pointed out that we had lost one of two recent games he wanted to talk about the game but MK wanted to talk about something else. MK then wrote an article on The42 and stated Munster lost to Ulster, obvious error on his behalf but not great considering the witch hunt going on now that JvG is leaving. It should be remembered that Munster and the IRFU were happy to give him an extension.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Some important info for MRSC members and the ticket lottery for the Wasps Game


    Dear Member,

    The lottery for the upcoming fixture with Wasps in the Heineken Champions Cup on January 23rd will be run per the following:

    Tomorrow (Wednesday) at 11AM, an “opt in” option will be available in every member’s account that holds a season ticket. Members will need to long into their account via mrsc.ie and opt in to secure a place in the lotto for the game.

    This opt in option will be active from 11AM on Wednesday and will close at 4PM on Thursday 13th January. Any member who has not opted into the lottery at this point will be automatically opted out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭sioda


    This isn't fair on those who missed out for the Ulster game. Both should have been opt in



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    It will be a very very very tiresome 6 months if every time the man opens his mouth he'll have the army of Lunster fans moaning about how he stabbed munster in the back and is acting like a baby and should have been fired and is a terrible coach etc etc

    I feckin hope he wins a trophy with Munster this year, and goes on to win the Premiership in his first year at Bath just to see how the levels of salt increase and how its justified

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    For JVG I don't think any answer he gave would have satisfied the people waiting to chew him up. He tried to make no comment, got thrashed for it, if he had said anything else, the press could have twisted his words just as easily


    "I'm fully committed to Munster for the rest of the season"

    Press - 'Thats what we thought when he signed that contract....'

    This was a man who has had to endure a week of everyone calling for him to be fired because he lost 1 derby match, and won a Heineken cup match in a month of massive disruption to his squad and preparations.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,516 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    Ha! I would also think the irfu will have to give him a central contract. He must be getting inundated with offers.

    Hopefully they are just waiting to announce it around 6N squad time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog


    They're a volunteer group who have day jobs too, they obviously learnt from the Ulster lottery where some people would have opted out and given others slightly better odds at getting a ticket.

    Unfortunately, aside from a Friday kick off I think more fans will make themselves available for the Wasps game than for the Ulster game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭greenkiwi1


    Would say the volunteers who run the MRSC learnt from what worked/did not work for the Ulster game and have come up with hopefully a better system for allocation of tickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,779 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Everyone was calling for him to be fired? Really? I don’t read the press at all so I’m open to correction, but I’d be shocked if everyone, every single member of the press, were calling for his head. Is it not more likely that a small handful of people, many of whom should be ignored at the best of times, called for his head?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    They also appear to be including associate members who didnt have a ticket in the first place.

    Plus this washes over the initial communication that people successful in one lottery would not be entered into the next.

    Now we have a situation where people who got tickets for the ulster game can get the wasps game, and other who wanted either will get none



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    No, because they should have removed anyone who was succesfull in the Ulster game from being able to opt in.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The initial communication was in relation to the Leinster and Ulster games. Wasps was always to be open to everyone.

    And AMs can buy season tickets, so they may well have tickets to this game. It's highly unlikely that the draw would go down to that level though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭TRC10


    So who in Munster exactly is signing Fekitoa?

    He's fairly injury prone too as far as I know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Pretty unfair that people who got the ulster game are in with the same chance of tickets for the wasps game as those who didnt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,244 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Unfair? Why? The initial communication was for 3 matches, two URC and one EPRC, our clash with Leinster in the UTRC was postponed after the initial comms from the MRSC so they issued another one saying everyone would be included in both lotteries. Now they have learnt from the Ulster game and they're asking members to opt in if you want to be in the lottery.

    I think they're making the best of a very bad and something not of their doing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Unfair?

    One member can get to the Ulster and Wasps game and one member cant get to either?

    Thats pretty straightforward unfair isnt it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Two different competitions and everyone that want's to be is included. Hardly unfair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog


    As expected - Zebo to face a disciplinary hearing


    A Disciplinary Committee will meet on Wednesday, January 12 to consider the red card against Simon Zebo (No 11) of Munster Rugby which occurred against Ulster Rugby on Saturday, January 8.

    The incident occurred in the 14th minute of the United Rugby Championship Round 10 fixture at Thomond Park.

    The Player recieved a red card for Law 9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.

    The Player will face a Disciplinary Panel via videoconference, the Panel will comprise of Declan Goodwin (Chair, Wales), Frank Hadden and Sarah Smith (both Scotland).



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    A red card means an automatic discipline hearing.

    Suspension can range from low 2 weeks to medium 6 weeks and top end 10+. So taking the weeks off due to his discipline record will likely get 2/3 weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    He will fit in well so, Munster have plenty of experience of injury prone players, long term.

    Do you have a link for the statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    What does the competition have to do with it?????

    There are limited games, and limited tickets, the fairest thing is surely to spread them between as many people as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,523 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Because one is more prestigious than the other. The cost of tickets reflect that.

    They had tried to facilitate everyone across the two URC games but Leinster having to pull out of the fixture out paid to that so they went with everyone in for both remaining fixtures.

    I think that's fair



  • Posts: 487 ✭✭ Amari Full Terminology


    As has been mentioned, the original communication from the MRSC stated the following: "Please note unsuccessful members for the Leinster fixture will be prioritised for the Ulster fixture on Saturday, January 8 with it reverting to an open draw for the Wasps fixture on Sunday, January 23."

    As the Leinster fixture obviously didn't happen, it was one draw for the Ulster fixture and another draw for the Wasps fixture. I have no issue with this, some people may get a ticket to both, some may get a ticket to one and some may get a ticket to none, that's the luck of the draw. It's not as if the MRSC are doing the lottery and if you don't get picked, tough luck, you will be entitled to a refund.

    I'm glad they are going down the opt-in route to be honest, I know people that were successful for the Ulster game but didn't want to go as they would be sceptical around attending events with figures the way they are.

    And with attendances being 5000, the MRSC probably have 3500/4000 tickets available to them at a guess when you account Munster Branch delegates, committee members, sponsors and referees who would also have ticket allocations.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    There are also 10 year ticket holders who have to get an allocation. I'd say it's closer to 2000-2500 for the MRSC. But the higher level of ST you have the better chance you have of getting a ticket.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Yes, every single member of the press was calling on JVG to be fired, without fail, even this guy

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    Instead of being pedantic... I listened to every podcast that I'm aware of who cover the Pro-14 (many of them were broadcast on radio and later podcasted) and in every single one of them there were people bringing up the Keith Wood and Peter Stringer Narrative that JVG should be put on gardening leave and that he wasn't dedicated to munster or was toxic and destroying players potential

    Not every 'pundit' agreed, but they all talked about it, and very few of them defended JVG

    He's human, he had a very sh1tty week and was treated very poorly by a lot of the rugby press. Even before during and after the Ulster match, a load of the commentary focused on the Connacht match. RTE commentators could barely shut up about Munsters' poor Connacht performance during the Ulster game.

    I was very disappointed after that Connacht match. It was a very poor performance, I think JVG got the selection wrong and the strategy wrong and the players were disjointed. But the reaction from the media was absolutely ridiculously over the top

    I've seen Leinster have equally poor performances and not once has lancaster' or Cullen been challenged to be replaced or put on garden leave etc

    The fact that JVG is moving to a new club next season is not ideal, it puts a spanner in the Munster medium term strategy, which was probably to replace JVG after the world cup anyway. JVG probably knew he had a more secure future at Bath than at Munster and decided to go now on his own terms instead of job hunting at the start of the next world cup cycle.

    He made a decision, Munster are dealing with it, the Media can stop all their sh1t stirring now please and let him get on with his job for the rest of the season.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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