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Solar PV Hints, Tips & Troubleshooting

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Can any of the folks with Eddis take a look at their device and chime in here please? Might help pin point the issue. Thanks.




  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    With the clickbait comment, I was expecting some tinfoil hat wearing nutcase, but no it was a good well presented video. Thanks for posting

    While an interesting idea, not sure it's very practical, on a number of fronts. You'd have to double (if not triple) the space required as you have the space for the original panel, and then you have the space for the mirrors. They also look like something (even if reinforced) that would quiet happily go through my neighbors car windscreen the next time "Storm Barra" pitched up.....or any wind more than 30Kph :-)

    Then there's cell degregation. Part of the reason that panels degregate over time is being exposed to temperatures. If your doubleing (tripling?) the solar radiation falling on the solar cell, I guess he'll be increasing the temp, potenailly dramatically? That'll kill those cells within 4-5 years I reckon.

    Panels are cheap, for a house install , just bang more up there :-)



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Have been noticing the LED lights in the house flickering occasionally since I started charging the battery at night. Presume some issue with inverter trying to match grid voltage. Have yet to catch voltage on multimeter when occurring, but it could be the source of the low min voltage readings on my Eddi.

    Have I got a dodgy inverter or is this a widespread issue?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    does it happen when the battery is discharging?

    Charging should have no effect.

    It could just be a coincidence



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Sorry, I should have clarified, it happens only when battery is discharging and I only noticed it started happening since I charging battery each night.

    It is most noticeable with the filament LED bulbs as they don't have any electronics in them other than the LEDs themselves. Presume capacitors on the other non-filament LEDs are smoothing out the flicker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Deagol


    I'm 99% sure all LED bulbs have some electronics in them - not possible to run LED's directly from 230VAC AFAIK. I've noticed the LED filament bulbs are not very reliable, I had 8 of them outside in lamps and several have failed after less than 2 years. Some research on it revealed they are less reliable due to issues around thermal control and power supplies. Perhaps it's just coincidence that they are acting up? As the inverter is supplying (should be at least) at the same frequency as the grid and the same sine wave I can't see how it's possible for bulbs to be acting up? A always, happy to be proven wrong by someone expert in the field though!



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Correct you are. I misremembered a schematic from bigclive as just a simple rectifier.

    Perhaps just coincidence. Will keep an eye on it.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    I think I've watched enough bigclive.com videos to grasp a basic understanding of some led bulbs

    Usually it's some form of rectifier and a capacitive dropper.

    But there's a vast difference on quality of led bulbs. And a lot are driven on the limit too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    A little speculation here:

    Course when your inverter is dumping out power from your battery, while it's matching the frequency and the sine wave of the ac, it doesn't match the voltage of the grid. The voltage coming from the inverter will be a higher voltage than the voltage coming from the grid, so your house will use that first.

    Depending on where your LED's are positions in the house it might be grabbing some from 220 (grid) and some from 230 (inverter), or flipping between the two as the power draw rises and falls across your house and it pulls power from the different source. Example would be your max output is 3Kw from the battery and your house is drawing 5Kw. Well since the battery can't supply it all at 230 only some of the power will come from the inverter at 230v, and the rest be supplied from the grid at 220v.

    Just a theory.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    The inverter has to be a little bit more than the grid until it can't output anymore power, and at that point it will just be a fraction below the grid.

    But that doesn't explain the flicker. It could be failing LEDs that's not uncommon..

    grid could be a lil bit iffy, and at the first sign of instability it stops just in case. (My inverter sometimes stop and then start again when I start the crusher, big inrush on the 2 motors).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭samdeluxjones


    Herself woke me up one night at 3am saying the outside lights are flashing.

    As I went out the loo light was also flashing, the led lights in the kitchen were flashing red, green blue, island and over cabinets was like a disco.

    5 sensor light outside, 8 inside plus 7 RGB led strips going nuts.

    It was all lights on a pir sensor or wifi switch it seemed half the house was gone cracked.

    It turned out there has just been a power fault around the same time my battery was draining so something got crossed or confused somewhere and caused the commotion, was mad..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭samdeluxjones



    Previously I had a issue with the inverter tripping my RCBO when the night charge was due to start and I changed the charge rate in self use and it seemed to sort it for a few weeks.

    It then started tripping again and also knocking out my backup supply, so I removed the backup supply and all seemed good again.

    Then the battery stopped charging at night on the same setting I'd always used.

    Now today the panels are showing 0.03Kw and it very sunny all morning.

    Nothing tripped, no alarms, no warning lights according to the inverter all normal and good.

    Is this inverter buggered or has anyone else had these issues?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Turn it off and then on again... I'd say the inverter has got itself muddled.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Anything in the advanced info or alarm screens?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭reklamos


    I agree, try to bounce it.

    I would get someone competent to look at your house wiring since you getting all these issues. There is something not right in here. All my ligths are leds, I do charge the battery but I have none of these.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭samdeluxjones


    Is there a reboot in settings? I isolated ac input, battery and panels and it goes dead after 10 seconds, this made no difference.

    No Grid

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    Is this correct standard? was never 100% about this and does it really matter anyway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Don't mess with that EN50438L setting - on a level of operation it may not have an effect but you would be legally outside what is correct for connection to the grid. EN50438L is the correct option for Irish grid connection.

    The no Grid thing is probably just intermittent loss of grid power - I've seen it on my own after transient faults (ie. the lights flashing off and on in the house when there's a very quick fault on the grid).



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Solis inverters have an EN50438IE option for Irish grid. Haven't investigated what the parameter differences (overvoltage/undervoltage/ROCOF etc) between EN50438IE and EN50438L, but unlikely to be majorly different.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    It turns out it was a failing LED. Swapped it out for a different LED bulb and issues went away.

    What threw me was another LED had started to act up in recent days, and both are in adjacent rooms. Both failing bulbs are same type (Osram, which I wouldn't have considered a cheapo brand) and were purchased at same time, and would have had similar usage since then.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    There is some evidence having an Surge protection device (SPD) installed in your consumer unit can help with that too. With more and more important with the amount of electronics in houses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭samdeluxjones



    Battery charged last night thank f£ck, that shutdown must have done the trick..

    So is there a way to reboot or factory reset the device if needed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭reklamos


    There is an option in advanced settings to re Restart HMI. Might worth checking firmware version and upgrade if it is old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Bif


    Hi all,

    I'm looking for some assistance. I have a 6kw Solis inverter and a Puredrive battery (5kw) installed which appeared to working fine until now. I was away for a couple of days so I switched off the night rate charging from the grid to my battery. However by this morning there was alarm messages (Can_Comm-FAIL and ForceChg-BMS) on the inverter system / screen and the battery was at 0% charge.

    When I looked at the switch on the battery it appeared to be off (no light) so I pressed the button and after a few minutes the alarm light on the inverter had cleared and the light around the button was was flashing green and it appeared to be charging from the grid (forced charging?). It was taking approximately 1kw from the grid and after a few mins it showed a 1% charge reading. However over an hour later it is still pulling approx. 1kw to the battery from the grid but the battery is showing at only 1% full. Any ideas on what is happening would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Deagol


    I had something similar happen. There looks like there is some issue with the Puredrive internal controller / Solis inverter that I couldn't get to the bottom of. I found that I just had to keep turning the battery switch on to off and back on again a few times until it seemed to figure itself out. There should be a setting in the Solis that force charges and it looks like that is working correctly for you. Try turning the battery on and off a few times leaving it sit for a minute or two each time. It took me a few attempts to figure out how to get it working again but I didn't actually keep notes on exactly what I did - sorry!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Bif


    Will try that now. Thanks. Do you know if there is a setting on the battery which stops it discharging completely e.g. a min of 10% charge is always held? I will let you know how it goes. Thanks for the prompt reply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Deagol


    There's a setting in the inverter that specifies the minimum charge (SOC). On mine it was set at 15% originally but Solis have since changed it to 20% remotely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭reklamos


    Think @SD_DRACULA was having similar issues with puredrive and solis. It seem like a comms issue and solis does not calculate soc properly. Force charge should have kicked in. Check your settings, foc should be couple % lower than soc. I've recommended before to configure battery reserve instead of depending on foc as it works much better compared to foc and achives the same thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Bif


    Thanks for the info. Found these earlier. Should I adjust? How would I configure the battery reserve? Thanks again.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭reklamos


    Have a look at this thread, https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058213891/odd-battery-behaviour/p1

    in the same place wherd you set soc and foc. You should have option for strage set mode it is were scheduled charge timers are. Cycle trough options and you will see battery reserve. Set the value to keep battery at and also make sure grid charging is enabled



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