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Formula 1 Round 22 Abu Dhabi GP

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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    You really are something else.

    There have been two standout drivers this season and Sainz is nowhere near the conversation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    What an incredible and well deserved win for Max. Hamilton and mercedes had the better car, they've amassed huge experience winning multiple championships so its a massive upset against the odds for verstappen and red bull.

    I couldnt believe the anti max and anti red bull media commentary all week. Portraying max as some sort of crazed driver who would "do anything to win". The media even speculated that hamilton would still be awarded the championship if there happened to be a collision between him and max.

    Still cant get over the english media bias and vitriol towards max and red bull. They chose instead to support a german team over a team led by one of their own - christian horner. Who is a total class act as evidenced by his interview with sky after the race. Did everyone notice how damon hill stepped out of that segment? He couldnt even bring himself to congratulate horner live on air. What a bitter person hill is.

    Well done max.



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It was a great season. Nothing like a bit of ambition/competition to add a bit of spice to the game. Some strange rulings today, but Max deserves the win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,697 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Merc had the best car over the season but Verstappen was the best driver, Verstappen had that RB on its absolute limits this season



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,678 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I really enjoyed that race. Max has had more than his share of bad luck this season and I felt that the decisions in general unfairly favored Lewis. For once the gods smiled in Max. Fair play to Lewis, he was respectful and gracious in defeat. I admire him for that. Mercedes are not doing themselves any favors with their behavior. At the end of the day it was the right result. Max is a very deserving world champion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭jacool


    When all the Sky hype settles down, I think this has done more damage than good for selling the sport to non-aficionados. I know quite a few obsessed F1-ers and they can't understand the two bad calls today, both against the actual rules of the sport. They won't stop watching and/or attending, but people like me won't bother as the rulebook is just so randomly applied.



  • Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sainz was P3 with two back markers between him and Verstappen. They weren't removed so he was 3s behind Verstappen when they went racing for the final lap. Basically he had zero chance of improving his position. From a sporting/fairness perspective it's very hard to understand putting Max 0.3s behind Lewis but not giving Carlos a similar opportunity.

    Would Carlos have risked a dive up into P2 (or even P1?). Who knows. But it's supposed to be his decision to make, not Michael Masi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Delighted Max won. Standing alone with 8 drivers championships, is something Hamilton didn't/doesn't desere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Wow. He's unhinged. Imagine being a mercedes mechanic or team member, busting a gut all year and winning the constructors championship and seeing your boss toto behave like that. Wouldnt surprise me if mercedes get rid of him now. Mercedes success during a period when they had no realistic competition has really gone to his head. Says a lot about him that mercedes keep him in the garage during races while horner is way more composed and able to run things from the pit wall.

    Congratulations red bull. Didnt have the best car and up against a way more experienced team but they had the best racing driver in Max.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭nf2k


    Do any of you follow/read/listen to "the race"? They have an article which feels like they are misinterpreting Lando Norris who said the restart was "for TV".

    When you read the full quote it sounds like he's trying to say it's something that suits TV well, as opposed to something that was engineered for the sake of TV. The latter is what the article suggests. Maybe it was engineered for TV (I don't think it was), but even if it was, Lando doesn't strike me as the type to make a comment like that.

    A little disappointed as used to like their content.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭Hijpo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I don't trust the Hamiltons at all. It's all PR. They're pro's at it now. They know what makes them money.

    Hamilton making sure to mention the pandemic in the post race interview and wearing a mask on the podium.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I saw Lando speak afterwards and he was clear that he wasn't impressed with what unfolded.

    Think people need to accept that some drivers are going to have a different opinion to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    BBC poll. Seems the British are very much behind Mercedes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I'm only a casual and even disregarding what happened today, but someone crashing way back the field shouldn't be enough to bunch the field up together. Could there not be technology that simultaneously puts a 60mph limit (or whatever speed safety car goes at) on all cars in the field?

    How is it fair that you build up a 20 second lead in a race, some laggard crashes at the back of the field and all your hard work is gone.

    What won the race for Verstappen and thus the WC? Latifi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,764 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Hamilton, all season, when he has won has thanked the team before anything else.

    When all was said and done, despite everything else, he congratulated Max.

    What more does he have to do? He can be pissed off but he was more than gracious in defeat.

    Honestly the sh*t that's posted on this forum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I'm a casual and the worst thing imo is not the finish or the "rules not being adhered to", it's the fact someone can have a great race and build up a lead but because some back runner crashes and it bunches up the field. Basically renders all the previous laps meaningless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Toto looks fairly unhinged here. I think Merc as a team seem to have some feelings of being entitled to win. It was mentioned on sky earlier that the QC "just happened" to be at the race conveniently, he was the same guy who got Merc a sweet deal after a secret Pirelli tyre test in 2013 was uncovered. I would say he was there in case there was race ending contact between Max and Lewis and Merc would throw everything at the stewards


    I will go back to the Baku race when Max had his tyre blowout. Weakley went on the radio to Masi and suggested a red flag to allow everyone change tyres. Mark Webber immediately on comms said that was a very "fair call".


    No other team ranted about Merc/LH getting lucky at Imola and finishing 2nd as a result of that luck. Toto made a complete fool of himself today and came across like a spoilt brat.


    Russell will put it upto Hamilton next year. Which will be spicy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Exactly. Reminds me of Ireland's proposal for 33 teams at the 2010 WC due to Henry's handball



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Outdoors with no one within metres? Nope.

    And I saw him going around indoors without a mask hugging people and other drivers so....what's the point of wearing it on the podium, outside with no one near him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Hamilton is in the game for over a decade. He's learned well. He can harp on about climate change yet he's happy flying around the world to drives thousands of miles a year, burning hundreds of tyres rubber which in regards to climate change is absolutely meaningless.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Why does this matter to you so much?

    People are entitled to wear masks indoors/outdoors as they wish.

    Would you stop someone on the street and have a go at them for wearing a mask outdoors?

    Don't worry about it, mind your own business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭quokula


    That's how F1 has always worked and people who lost out today have benefitted from it plenty of times before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭nf2k


    Here's the article

    https://the-race.com/formula-1/norris-one-lap-shootout-for-f1-title-was-for-tv/

    Not sure where you get the idea that I disagree with Lando. I'm wondering whether whether the article is representative of his view. The more I read it, the more uncertain I get, I can interpret it either way.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Ah, so you're one of those types.

    Hamilton has already changed his habits to try and do his part and his sport has been doing the same.

    Cop on. Absolute sh*te being spoken here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    It's the rules, I get it, but the rules can be changed. Hamilton was fastest today and because someone at the back of the field crashed all his brilliant driving and better car meant nothing.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    How does "obviously made to be a fight, it was for the TV" misrepresent him?

    As I said, I watched his interview in the media pen and even though he was careful with his words it was very clear that he didn't like how it unfolded. The quotes in this piece are very clear in what he's saying.

    Why are you suggesting The Race are misrepresenting him? Because he made a remark you don't agree with but you actually like Lando so it must be the big bad media who are only reporting what he actually said?

    Listen back to the team radios as they crossed the line, he wasn't the only one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Because Hamilton is all for the PR.

    Wear the mask when all the cameras are on you and most eyes are on you to show everyone how great you are and then when all the casuals are gone, go inside and start hugging everyone with no mask.



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