"Green" policies are destroying this country

The tin of Borscht is at the back, behind the tins of bile.

I know the concept is alien to you but villages and small towns are mostly markers for a larger town, for instance if you take Donegal, Letterkenny is the largest town, then at nearly every angle between 5 to10miles out you small towns and villages, Ramelton, Kilmacrennan, Churchill, Drumkeen,Manor cunningly, there are houses between and around each town /village and Letterkenny, as time goes by these towns/villages will likely be suburbs of the larger town,

This patern is repeated around the county with a larger town ringed by smaller towns/villages and houses between.

Your version paints a picture of houses 20 to 30 miles from anywhere which isn't possible in this country, You left your village for personal reasons and have admitted you haven't gone back, you can't blame everyone for whatever happened/ you caused as a reason for attacking people who did nothing on you.

You really are egregiously dishonest. I have given numerous examples of not skipping the businesses in my village and pointed out that those who live in the village, shop in the supermarkets in the nearest town, just as I do. Your version of reality is entirely fictional. I have even seen small business/shop owners in the village, shopping for their groceries in the extra village supermarket.

You have no direct experience of living in a village in the present day, and I doubt the last time you lived in one was in the current century, and I doubt ever as an adult, yet you continue to pontificate as if you are more knowledgeable about the reality others presently experience daily, which you don't. Your level of conceit is of Muskian proportions.

You can ease up with the faux concern for rural dwellers, it`s fooling nobody. You and one or two others on here have made it clear that you have no interest in in them other than coercively herding them into urban settlements based on an ideology that make no economic or social sense.

Moving people from one area in a locality to another in the same locality is not going to improve the economics of your beloved village. Best case scenario overall population will stay the same so no economic advantage to businesses. Worst case, some will move elsewhere so even less economic activity and the taxpayer having to pay for housing the rest.

Do you even read what you post ?

You blather about isolation, higher nursing home admission rates and it being impossible to live independently as there is no community support because of one-off housing, when the people who providing the community support to minimising isolation, make it possible for the elderly to live independently and out of nursing homes are those one-off householders due to them being able to afford to build nearby due to getting a so called "free" site. These are the people you want to herd into urban living where the taxpayer will have to house them and also pay for the care of those left in isolation. It`s economic and social insanity.

The only yahoos on this thread are those either jealous of those living rurally and believe that misery deserves company, or they believe that magic money trees actually do exist.

Excuses excuses, I'm not overly flush, but I'm willing to pay for quality Irish farmed produce when it comes to feeding the family, It's a case of budgeting properly, spending less in other areas. My petrol bill for instance.

You are a fool, probably paying multiple loans on shyte to keep up with the Jones, Very few local buthers kill their own meat anymore ,they buy from the same source as the supermarket, Notions are a wild plague on whatever the current name for a Yuppie is

I'm a fool for supporting local? I have only one loan and that's my mortgage, only a few years out of that now due to a good property planning. Everything else paid for up full, including the cars.

Thread is getting nasty now.

My GP is one of the highest paid in the country, shops are a KM away, Pub a few hundred yards, work is half a mile, life expectancy is 80 something, Almost everyone has a car because it means you don't have to rely on some else to get you somewhere, Your whole life is dependant on people doing stuff for you, spoon-fed all the time, dependant on others when you know that most of the time they'll let you down, So sit in your two up,two down ,lead and asbestos house with your signed photo of Danny Kinahan waiting on your reheated Delivroo meal courtesy exploited labour and thinking things are great, Easy pleased and easier led

Firstly, this seems to be a US study

Secondly Yurt isn't opposed to rural life, yurt supports villages and smaller towns which are included as rural inhabitants It's the one off housing that is the problem.

There's nothing wrong with living outside of the bigger towns and cities, but planners should refuse permission for new houses on sites that are not zoned residential as part of an existing settlement.

Yurt is supporting moving those living in one-off houses into smaller towns and villages because these villages are not viable economic units as they are. That is not going to increase their viability as it is not increasing the population of the area and therefore no change in the economic activity. Less if anything when in all likelihood it will decrease the population with some just moving out of the area with others now having less disposable income due to having to buy sites in these villages and town to build on. Plus the fact that those unable to afford such sites will have to be housed at the tax payers expense where we already have a massive backlog of numbers requiring such housing that we are decades away from providing.

On your point of planners refusing permission for sites that are not zoned residential, that is not going to make it any easier for people to be able to afford to build on such sites. I think we all know from experience at this stage what happens to such sites when they are rezoned. Developers get their hands on them and the prices go through the roof which has played a major part in the housing crisis we already have.

With these villages and small towns still not going to be viable units what then, move everyone from them into larger towns or cities ? Yurt`s proposal and the one you are supporting is nothing to do with preserving rural communities. In Yurt`s case it is a poorly though out idea of increasing the economic activity in rural villages, but like your`s it`s just the first step towards mass urbanisation.

You clearly cannot read. Yurt repeatedly keeps saying he doesn't want to move anyone.

It's about sustainable development for the Future.