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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Yeah. Then went on about getting 2 seats on 4%...up to 12 seats on 7%...which is about 7% of the Dail seats so no idea what all that was about!

    She'd be the first to say that if a referendum was passed by 50.1% to 49.9% that the losing side should move on as democracy as spoken...but then turns up making massive changes with 4% of the vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Your looking for a million cars in 8 years with the likelihood of a global recession in the middle,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,609 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    If every new car for the next 8 years was an EV they would still not reach 1 Million. It`s a complete nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    I know, but Madd-Maxx thinks Nissan and Kia need a €40billion bailout from the Irish people, these people don't think about the big picture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I hope that was sarcasm. Irish national debt per taxpayer is currently somewhere around €74,000 per head. Let that sink in for a while. The loons have just given the public sector a 1% pay rise. With the grave already 3m deep, they don't think it's deep enough yet so just keep digging.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Eamon Ryan saying retrofitting will really pick up pace after January when the new grants and loans are announced.

    I still can't get my head around why he thinks people already laden with mortgages, car loans and suffering with inflation would want to take on even more debt? It's just not going to happen unless the work is done for free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    My apologies, it seems I was completely wrong about that figure.

    Irelands national debt is €248,828,484,716

    https://commodity.com/data/ireland/debt-clock/

    There are only 1,651,900 taxpayers, since 37% of earners don't pay tax: https://assets.gov.ie/86995/006fad3c-ebb5-4b0e-b067-92f8102d6e43.pdf

    So the debt is actually €150,632 per tax payer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    The way grants work in Ireland, item costs €x, government gives grant, item now costs €x + grant,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    So throw in bailout to SIMI and plumbers,another €100billion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Speaking of plumbers, the government spec'd Irish plumbing fittings and pipework to be deliberately incompatible with the UK or Europe to give local businesses a free run on making these things here. Nice bit of protectionism, that.

    Probably the worst subsidy is the deliberatly messed up legal system that requires you to pay a lawyer to hold your hand from birth to death. Many countries structure their legal systems to simplify the most commonly needed legal events to reither eliminate the need for a lawyer or to at least reduce the cost of getting one through simplification. The cost of selling and conveyancing a property in Oz is about a quarter what it is here and you don't need a lawyer at all.

    I recently paid €5,000 to get a grant of probate that took over two years to happen, because the Irish law relating to executorships was made stupid. Back in Oz, the same legal situation would have cost me essentially nothing, and I could have applied for the probate myself.

    Apart from the high direct taxation, this country has innumerable other engineered subsidies. Want to sell a house? You'll need a BER cert for that - k'aching! Oh you have one do you? Wrong, look again, we made them single use.

    NCT is now €55 with no competition. An MOT in the UK costs about 50-60% of that and there is no VAT on it.

    Ireland even has 'creative taxes that no other country has. If it weren't for, I think Denmark, Ireland would be pretty unique in having a VRT so high it's indistinguishable from an import duty. Then there are DIRT and that new doozy - the deemed disposal of ETFs, where you are taxed on your capital gain, even when you haven't made one. I had a quick look and can't find any other country that tries that one on. If there is a financial crash and you sell the ETF at a loss, does the government give you your money back?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Everyone who pays VAT, ie everyone , is a tax payer. you should really get those swivelling eyes checked out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    The social housing retrofitting program will pick up pace next year. Oh he'll get the entire welfare dependent population upgraded by 2030 and talk about social justice and other BS. They will be the ones living in A rated homes in 2030.

    Of course this will completely crowd out the private sector...the private sector will have no hope of getting tradiess to do their homes even if they had the cash which of course they don't. He seems to live in this fantasy world where private sector people out of desperation to save the environment will take out €50k loans to make their homes slightly warmer in winter. Personally i'd prefer pay a little higher heating bills than go through that hassle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    German government will push for a European federation

    The Social Democrats, Greens and the liberal FDP announced that a ‘traffic light’ coalition between the three parties would push for the development of a fully-fledged European federation.


    According to the coalition agreement presented on Wednesday, the coalition wants to use the ongoing Conference on the Future of Europe as a starting point to reform the EU.


    The conference should lead to a constitutional process and ultimately to the “development of a federal European state,” the document reads.


    “A sovereign Europe is the key for our foreign policy,” said Olaf Scholz, who will likely be inaugurated as chancellor in the second week of December.

    “Slow Disaster Playing Out” As Germany Moves To Shut Down 8.5 GW Of Baseload Nuclear Capacity

    Bardland writes:

    In just over a month, Germany will close 3 of its newest and best nuclear power plants and more than 4050 MW of electricity will disappear from northern Europe’s power grid. 4050 MW is equivalent to the average electricity consumption of all of Denmark.


    It will put supply security further under pressure and them choosing to do so in the middle of winter is pretty crazy.

    Not only will the 4050 MW of shut off nuclear power lead to more CO2 emissions, but it will cause much more pollution from the burning of biomass and fossil fuels. Next winter, Germany will close the last 3 nuclear power plants, also 4000 MW.


    Anyone who has followed the energy and climate political debate, even superficially, over the last 10-20 years can see that Germany, Denmark and other ‘green crazy countries’ are doing it vigorously AGAINST what logic and science dictates.


    We see a slow disaster playing out with The Greens in the lead role as the crazy villain, hell-bent in their eagerness to wipe out life and prosperity.

    (PS. Buy warm clothes, food, water and candles, for the coming winter).


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    There is a new coalition government in Germany in addition the decisions made years ago in the Merkel era to shut nuclear plants are coming to fruition. Germany currently gets 35% of its power from coal and nuclear, the latter already due to be phased out next year. Without this reliable generation, Germany will be heavily reliant on imported electricity. Ireland is stringing a cable to France to tap into French nuclear power, Irish authorities are also intent on eliminating thermal power plants by 2030 (Moneypoint is scheduled for 2025). Anyone can see that there will be situations in future where there will be no power availble at any price and demand management (i.e. load shedding) will be the reality and very likely in weather conditions similar to what happened in Texas.


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    Here you see the random nature of wind power. Although it has contributed on average 23% of total electricity in November 2021, equivalent to 13 GW, there have been several days when it has been running at below 4GW. Given that Germany has 62 GW nameplate wind power capacity, this underlines the point it does not matter how many turbines you have when the wind does not blow or the sun shine you have nothing or as the Germans say Dunkelflaute.

    In Ireland and elsewhere we are following the same directives from Germany via the EU. Given the increased electrification proposed, Germany will at least 100 GW of reliable capacity. Gas, biomass and hydro together only provide 43 GW, less than half of that required. That means they will need Nord Stream 2 and a lot of new gas plants will have to be built.

    Why Putin's Pal, Germany's Ex-Chancellor Schroeder, Isn't On A Sanctions List

    France also has maintenance on its nuclear plants and even recently had to import power (6GW) from Germany, they are planning small modular nuclear reactors while Germany is shutting down their reliable sources.


    In case the lunatics think they are getting random wind "energy for free": Wind power risks becoming too cheap, says top turbine maker

    Do note that wind turbine and solar operators are subsidised and don't have to pay the overhead costs to provide backup electricity when their random generation shortfalls,yet they can receive curtailment payments when they produce too much. Eirgrid will require more batteries to maintain frequency control and system stability, these are not cheap. We pay that.


    The warnings are there for those who wish to hear them, our vulnerability to any weather increases with every net zero policy decision. Is there any risk analysis carried out?

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I believe Germany will wake up and reverse their nuclear shutdown idiocy at some point.

    To 'fix' the EU, make the European Commission answerable to the European Parliament, and not be a bunch of self directing, civil service think, leftie idealogues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    RealPolitik may prevail and they change their mind now that Merkel is gone, however, you can't just mothball nuclear plants and bring them out of storage. Once closed they are decommissioned, the supply contracts are ended and the expertise to operate them drifts away, it takes a few years to get them back online.

    Germany Has a Math Problem, and It’s about to Get Worse

    And in addition to relying on its neighbors for nuclear energy, it turns out it is relying on Russia for gas as predicted. Overall, Germany has a 68 percent energy import dependency, with 94 percent of its gas needs met by imports. The July agreement by Chancellor Merkel and President Biden to allow the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia to Germany to be completed is not only having an impact on transatlantic relations now, but also it could affect the balance of power within Europe in the future.


    The Greens argue that the Nord Stream 2 deal is not only bad for the environment, but also for Europe’s security and economy. Greens leader Annalena Baerbock, who is hoping to win the chancellorship next month, has maintained a hard line on stopping Russia’s pipeline both due to the environmental impacts and geopolitical ramifications for Europe.


    You raise an interesting point who is setting energy policy? In Britain namely Scotland this was called out years ago. The landowners in Scotland where the turbines are located are based around London and politically connected.

    Blackout

    Privatisation of the energy companies led to regulation and political interference. Once run by engineers, energy policy is now dictated by arts graduates. The three figures are Alex Salmond, former leader of the SNP, Baroness Worthington who was the lead author on the UK 2008 climate change act and member of Friends of The Earth and Lord Deben (John Gummer), chairman of the Climate Change Committee that informs energy policy.


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    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,236 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I'd say C Martin often wishes he would just keep his mouth shut, the number of times this guy have come out with stuff that makes no sense must be in double digits at this stage.

    If the Greens do bad at the next election I could see her jumping ship to the Soc Dems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Maybe we'll be able to apply for €450,000 grants to rebuild and retrofit our gaffs at the expense of the taxpayer. When you think of what householders in the rest of the country are being asked to address, it makes the Donegal mica situation look like absolute lunacy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    €450K is the maximum and very few will cost this, government and county council knowingly allowed substandard materials to be used and there's a likelihood that future court cases will see the council liable for selling off houses they knew to be Mica affected, Cronyism costs us all in the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Word is that one of the big demands Eamo made when he agreed to be chief mudflap was that FF/FG back his bid for the presidency when Micky D goes,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,268 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The Greens don’t even believe their own policies. They’re a mad bunch followed by a shower of lunatics.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    Now that's an appalling vista! The country would be a laughing stock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,878 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Nah, that's just a fairytale. Self-build houses on the cheap were the main factor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,259 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Yet again you have been called out on this bs on several threads - there is no proof that self-builds or building "on the cheap" were responsible for defective blocks being sold by quarries. Unless you can provide proof of that extraordinary claim, you may stop repeating it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,259 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    No more than the catalytic converter you find attached to every ICE car in production. Why do you support Chinese slavery You Monster!

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,259 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    This thread is just proof that the 'anti greens' are just a bunch of disingenuous children without a braincell to share between the lot of you

    Half the time you're whinging about 'Why should I have to pay to upgrade my house' And 2 seconds later you're whinging about 'How dare the government spend tax payers money on grants to pay for home upgrades'

    You complain about the poor who cannot afford the carbon taxes, and then whinge about low income families getting home upgrades for free that will mean they never have to pay a penny in carbon tax while also living in warm comfortable houses

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,259 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    No not whataboutism. We're going to need some way to generate and store energy in the future. Whether we use fossil fuels or hydrogen and fuel cells or nuclear, batteries or pumped hyro, they all involve using metals and raw materials that have to be mined from somewhere. It's not a good argument to say we shouldn't use hydrogen fuel cells because they require some platinum as a catalyst unless you're advocating for some other technology that is 100% sustainable and doesn't have any raw materials that have any negative impact

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,634 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,259 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If this is a little window into your mind, it's a scary place. You think 'greens' are out to get you. You couldn't be further from the truth

    I bet you were one of those people who was outraged when the EU banned incandescent light bulbs. Now everyone has access to much better quality lighting that uses a fraction of the electricity as before.

    I bet you went out and stockpiled 2000w vacuum cleaners because you think louder is better

    You're probably the same guy who kept driving his leaded petrol car until the last pump nearby closed just because you liked the smell of the fumes. That would probably explain quite a lot now that I think about it

    Are you one of those people who drives to the rural village so you can get the 'proper' smokey coal that isn't permitted in towns and cities? Or do you appreciate the ability to go outside in winter without having to breath in the smog people spew out of their chimneys for half the year

    Are you one of those people who misses the good old days when you could buy a single item in a shop and be given a plastic bag to carry it home in for free...

    Your life has been immeasurably improved by people fighting for green policies, not necessarily the green party who have barely had any power in government in Ireland

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    There is large number of people who can't see past the end of their own noses.



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