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Santy get a boyfriend...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    I'll ask you a similar question, an ad featuring George Floyd kissing Donald Trump, how would that make you feeel? I'll make it even easier, George Floyd kissing Martin Luther King. How about that?

    I know it's unlikely you'll answer honestly, even to yourself. But it made your skin crawl a bit, didn't it? You've just got different value system with different sacred ideals. So what about it? Any fuss over George Floyd kissing Donald Trump in a TV ad?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,273 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I love this kind of thing, anything that annoys the anti woke brigade!



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well I find the thought of Trump kissing anything a bit stomach churning. Even Melania seems to jump out of the way.

    Wouldn’t give a damn though who kisses who.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭funkyzeit100


    Division division division!!


    Make the bucks off division!


    More people angry is great!


    And then someone above said that this thing is "pointless". Au contraire, it 100% has a point, right from it's inception in the mind of some devious snake right through to the board of oily cockroaches that approved it.


    Pathetic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms



    It is not just Santa...

    There are calls a plenty to for the next James Bond film to portray him as gay... including from one recent bond co-star...

    about 25 Bond films I think... and 48 books over 59 years... where the character is a straightforwardly straight guy, borderline womanizer in fact....

    Now to please, be inclusive and whatever, turn him gay ? Bizarre. It would be seen as a victory for the LGBT quangos...whom it seems are getting quite aggressive in their demands... everyone should be gay, James Bond, Santa, The Pope, ...

    what next ? What other historical characters of fiction or otherwise will there be a clamoring to have their characters totally rewritten ?

    Ive never felt any sort of neediness in this life to have any facet of my being ‘represented’.... by anybody...

    can these quangos not just get on with enjoyment of their life without getting offended by the idea that not everyone is gay ? That there will be millions of people who relate to the decades old premise... decades old story...James Bond and X girl...

    santa & Mrs Claus ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    You see, the gay industry (as opposed to ordinary gay on the street who just goes about his day to life in a normal manner and probably winces at this type of thing) is terrified that 'we' or the world will forget them or get bored. Petrified that they will no longer be the centre of attention so you gotta keep it in the limelight. A bit like Donald Trump really- he doesnt care as long as he is in the news. Any news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    Interesting and clever way of avoiding the question. That's not what I asked.

    I don't think anyone here cares whether the santa outside the local tesco goes home and kisses his pet baboon, as long as he's not livestreaming it to kids. The question is not who kisses who, it's would you be ok with an ad on TV showing George Floyd kissing Donald Trump? It's clear from your answer you can't even write the words and instead evade the proposition entirely with a more comfortable and completely abstract concept of 'anyone kissing anyone'.

    I'd love to see an honest answer 'I am ok with a TV ad with Donald Trump kissing George Floyd'. But you've already given your answer by avoiding it.



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You seem to have the impression that I care…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    I know you do, that's why you are here and also why I asked. I knew you would evade it. That's the point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,764 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The 2020’s has indeed started off with gusto, as the age of the attention seeker...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Has anyone told ms . Claus?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Kendal Jenner gave a guy a Pepsi and the internet went mad. I still dont know what the big deal was there. But messing with fcuking Santa and Mrs Clause. Just nooooo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭funkyzeit100


    There are several actors at play in these ridiculous scenarios, it's not just one single monolithic conspiracy.


    Companies have learned that clicks = money.


    Controversy = clicks.


    It's that simple. Pick something that people have no opinion on, and then inject something that's bound to stir up clicks. Easy. Nothing to do with being gay, I'd say some of the owners of these society splitters are off in their mansions reminiscing about their ad campaigns for the Nazi's. That's how much they "care".


    Secondly, there are the "activists", again, a tiny group of soldiers that have so little going on in their lives that they must throw their entire existence into the de rigeur cause of the moment. They'd be the same type, again, that would have been tripping over themselves to join the hitler youth, braindead.


    What always makes my eyes narrow in suspicion is anything that targets children. Such as santa clause. When your ideology is so weak that it can't stand up to adult scrutiny, and you therefore need to target the immature minds of children instead, yeah, that's an alarm bell. Just like the indoctrination programmes of the Nazi's that specifically targeted children.


    And so on. There are a few malodorous parties at play here.


    And it all sucks. It's about as "Christmassy" as rte playing the Texas chainsaw massacre on Christmas morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The signs have always been there. Big bearded bear like him? Coming down chimneys? A full sack ready to be emptied on one special night?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    So brave , what unpopular cause will they stand up to society for next ? Women's right to vote maybe !?


    *** sarcasm for those who need extra help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Of course the marketing company is looking for attention. That is literally what marketing companies are paid to do.

    I'm sorry but I find it so damn funny reading through comments here and watching people get legitimately offended that a fictional magic man with a fictional magic wife could possibly have a fictional magic husband.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,025 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭funkyzeit100


    Ah yes, the prickish advertising companies deliberately sought to annoy people, and you find it so damned funny that people are annoyed.


    Hilarious.


    Like pushing someone off a cliff and then finding it hilarious when theyre splattered on the rocks below.


    Cause and effect are so deeply clever.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,818 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Here's a really controversial suggestion:

    Leave kids alone and let them enjoy the magic and wonder and innocence of Christmas.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah it's political - why bring politics into a fairy story just for "right on" points.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    “There are actually quite a few genuinely heartwarming Christmas ads. Sure, we know that it is done for money, but they can also raise a smile or nice feeling.”

    I don’t think so, because to me they are sentimental crap. But each to their own I guess.

    The predatory angle is just odd. But I never understood the Peter Pan outrage either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Not entirely sure anyone here has found it offensive but rather an exasperated air of tired cynicism. Personally I just think the video is shite- too long and low energy which is nothing to do with the content.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭AustinLostin


    about as weird as God slydogging Mary without her permission with his older than time seed. The origin of Christmas itself.


    I think the ad is good, and lets be honest. If it was a woman you wouldn't describe it as hooking up or immediatedly jump to try to add pedo undercurrents to the ad.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Never said I was OK with the idea of the first part.

    "Let's be honest" - you can read my mind? I didn't describe it as hooking up or immediately jump to try to add pedo undercurrents to the ad. Someone else said that that aspect is weird. I agreed that it is weird, nothing more. No idea why you brought in the "reverse the genders" angle, seeing as Santa isn't a woman and there's no relevance, but if Santa was... of course it would also be weird.

    There can be quite a bit of misrepresentation and putting words into people's mouths here. I don't get it - why don't people use the information that is actually in front of them to make points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    Ugh this stuff just needs to **** right off. Santa/Christmas is a thing that 3-12~ year olds can enjoy for the few years they have, get the **** out of here introducing any sort of sexuality to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Ah come on it's a bit funny. Look at those folk getting annoyed about it, going on about pushing sexuality. It's like they think because one Norwegian company ran one ad that a bunch of kids are going to turn gay. But they don't seem to think of Santa having a wife being about sexuality, when of course it is.

    I think it's a daft ad personally, but it's amusing to watch people get mad over something so insignificant and merely shows another view point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭AustinLostin


    ok you just quote posted it and agreed. Got it. ok.


    I meant if the man who was Santa's partner was a woman...please don't misrepresent what I'm saying. I don't understand why you'd do that.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Santa isn't a real person... That's the key difference and frankly there's nothing offensive about this. Santa baby, how must children interpret the sexualization of Santa in that song? So far I've seen no evidence that children are upset meanwhile the standard outrage merchants are getting pissy about the ad.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well I definitely don't think it will turn kids gay or that they shouldn't see a same sex couple holding hands/kissing or that a lifestyle is being forced on us etc - but I just disagree with bringing identity politics into a fairy story. Just an opinion.



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