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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Jealousy 🤣

    Anything but take a critical look at what the long-term consequences of this development pattern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I'll put my annual milage up against yours if you like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,618 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Hello McFly is right.

    From chancing your arm on the Water Framework Directive you are now wandering off into a fantasy world.

    Under the Water Framework Directive the E.U. can no more set the level of excess usage than they can the price to be paid by consumers or apply penalties for none compliance. The European Court of Justice cleared up any notions they may have had on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Where oh where did I ever make any claim about the EU setting the level of excess usage limits?

    You. are. talking. pony.

    The direct and factual claim I made was that Ireland must satisfy in whichever means it can the polluter pays principle. That's where the usage limits come in. It's the bare minimum, but we are compelled to do so or else we are in the sh*t with fines from the EU.

    You're wandering off the map like a town drunk trying to make up things I didn't claim, infer or post.

    Dealing with yourself, cnoc and the other merry band of septic tank yahoos, while fun, can be an exhausting experience - because your connection with reality and comprehension is tenous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,977 ✭✭✭buried


    You want to talk about 'problems in communities'? Well go look in your own back yard before you start clambering to criticise the place you left years ago. You want to talk about water pollution? What city are you living in? Lets talk about the situation where you are, and how you are contributing to it, seeing water pollution is your main concern?

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I'm absolutely loving this, the attempt to shut down conversation on this is hilarious.

    In case your worried, I can drink from the tap where live. (Inner suburb 1970s housing stock, well connected on bus route, cycle lane direct to work outside my door).

    To tickle your belly a little bit, I'm a smug metropolitan elite flat white drinking Irish Times subscriber. And you know what? I've danced around you in this thread, and I won't shut up about one-off housing because you want me to 😘



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,977 ✭✭✭buried


    lol How am I trying to shut down conversation? I asked you a question, that is what a conversation is about. And this thread is about "Green Policies" not "Yurt!s Hard on for One Off Housing, something that he can do F**k all about anyways". You want to discuss pollution yeah? And how pollution is damaging the Green planet? Well then lets see how the place where you live contributes to it, because it does, so what's your problem in not discussing that huge element of it, and as you put it your penchant for "dancing around" any question that doesn't suit your ridiculous hypocritical narrative?

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    Wrong again, I may not agree with everything Ducan Steward says but I have to give him credit for what he stands for, he was one of the first I can remember to be on about the environment and the likes of house insulation 20+ years before the bandwagon jumpers we have today. So I have to give him credit where credit is due.

    People on this thread would prefer to listen to Greta than the likes of him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    "Yurt!s Hard on for One Off Housing, something that he can do F**k all about anyways".

    🤣 I'm not in the habit of identifying myself to internet loolas, but part of me would love for you to know what I do for a living.

    G'luck and goodnight lads. I'm sure this one will run and run. You've perfomed to expectations, just don't forget to wipe the spittle off your screen, could damage the device.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,977 ✭✭✭buried


    Yeah goodnight there Yurt! and have a good day tomorrow at what you do for a living in the big bright lights that we can only dream about here in out of control pollution land

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    As I said I don't agree with everything he says, he was at it long before it was popular, but the trouble with a lot of people like Steward nowadays is they go a bit daft in old age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    It referred to colleagues and peers earlier so Billy no mates by the looks of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    Yea looks like it, there is a few of them around that have found a new lease of life with other like-minded nobodys around these threads.

    Bashing the country people every chance they get while they feral scum roam the streets of their own cities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    Yea, oddballs send off to the city so as not to embarrass the rest of the family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Either that or a family murder suicide for you one off house folks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,977 ✭✭✭buried


    lol Nice, that's brilliantly done in how to show yourself up platinum record style

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    It and Yurt are the cream of the public service apparently,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,977 ✭✭✭buried


    Wow. No wonder then that the "mental health" departments are faring so disastrously if the cream of the "public service" is spewing out doozies like that

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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    Bringing murders into it? Seriously? Gangland killings in Dublin anyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Dropped into the thread before bedtime to see what Podge and Rodge are up to

    🤣🤣

    Jesus T. Copernicus Christ on an electric scooter you lads have gone off on a mad one. "feral scum", slandering the great and good of the public sector, gangland killings, and Duncan Stewart has apparently gone senile. And for the record, I don't work in the public sector, so I'm having a lot of fun with this actually (and I'm much adored in my family 😅)

    And all because people have the temerity to point out that government policy on one-off houses is the correct one.

    I've got stuck into a few odd threads in my time, but you lot are certifiable. Sleep well my sweet princes of the unspoiled meadow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Saw the first few pages of this thread but then stepped away. Had a look tonight and it makes me think there's a few mods tied to a radiator locked in a creepy house.


    At least we know what the post climate change apocalypse will look like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    There are either sheep or sitka spruce farms on all of our uplands country wide, zero biodiversity because of this. Give me wind farms over this any day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭gct


    I hate the greens. Every time they get in near government it costs Me more money. Even though I pay a lot more the place is no greener than it was a few years back. They don't care about the average Joe and whether or not their elderly family members living on a pittance of a pension can heat their homes. They don't seem to care or even realise that the main cause of pollution around Dublin is the fact that whole communities have been priced out of the housing market, forced to live in the far suburbs and surrounding counties and left them with no choice but to drive to work as there is F all public transport for them,(How many of these Greens sat on the planning committees that came up with these ridicuous policies?). They don't even care that China and Russia and India are the ones polluting the world. If they did they would be targeting these countries instead of the ordinary Joe in Ireland. How are the people that vote them in so gullible?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    the Greens have had barely any power for a short amount of time and yet people like you blame them for all of the country's woes, it's hilarious. The Greens are responsible for the outrageously poor planning countrywide and all taxes, yes. Nothing to do with FF/FG being in power since the foundation of the state, and the fact that all they focused on for decades was allowing one off housing and sprawl, and investing only in motorways and bypasses to keep rural Ireland happy, and barely investing a cent in public transport or sustainable planning. Damn those Greens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Today, the Irish Road Hauliers and Truckers Association are staging a protest in Dublin.

    Will Eamon Ryan come out to the protesters and tell them he is going to listen to them like he did when the kids were protesting climate change outside the Dail?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Will there be any advantage to rural living in the end?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    The one off houses depriving villages is a moronic claim. We are part of the village to the point of being known by sight and name. In terms of local businesses we are part of their customer catchment area. I frequent and provide custom to the small businesses in my local village as much as anyone living in it. When I need fuel for the mower, car, It's down the service station, 2-stroke for the strimmer, the same, or the hardware store - which has seen a lot of trade from me. Haircuts, pharmacies, doctors surgery, dentist, banking (A retired manger of the local bank is a neighbour and lives in a one-off he built), Chinese takeaway, spur of the moment grocery shopping, a local earth works contractor. A local farmer for firewood. My kids went through primary and secondary school in the village. School uniforms were purchased locally. They were out with their friends trick-or-treating in the village every halloween. Years of piano lessons with a local lady, who also lives in a one-off.

    The sheer gob-smacking ignorance inherent in this prejudice against one-off houses and the total erroneousness of some of the allegations is hard to stomach.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    And for good measure nobody is "forced against their will" to move to any village. Hyperbolic emotive twaddle.

    The law of the land, and it's always been the law of the land, is that you need permission to build on land even if you declare yourself emperor of the bottom field you were gifted. Time to reconcile yourself with that.

    Authorities (and how you must hate that word) are duty bound to measure the social, economic, community and environmental good against your desire to plonk a McMansion wherever. The pendulum has swung in a general and definitive sense against this type of development. And again, it's time to reconcile with it.



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