What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Cody montana · 10-11-2021 08:51AM

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In control of the presidency, senate and house.

Sounds like a winner to me.

everlast75 · 10-11-2021 09:10AM

Ever notice that before 45, Republicans were a thing. Definable by their political aims, whether you agreed with them or not.

Like this person

https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1458204665481469954?t=sTiD60EjFcGoOTjVwnDtgw&s=19

Then 45 came along, a Democrat himself on issues, who donated to the clintons, and basically told the party that he was the party, whatever position he took was the party line and everyone else, including a life long Republican like Cheney above, was a RINO. And all of them just accepted it? Lol.

Cody montana · 10-11-2021 09:19AM

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What?

relax carry on · 10-11-2021 09:50AM

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Dribbling idiots on the internet? Trump's fevered dreams? Fox "News" never ending crusade to Make America Dumb Again?

everlast75 · 10-11-2021 09:54AM

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So rather than address and rebut my post, which answered yours, you opt for a poor attempt at an innuendo, and a false one at that.

Pretty pathetic stuff.

Hoop66 · 10-11-2021 09:54AM

Legal issues continue to mount for Trump. Why, I wonder, did he not want the Jan 6 Commission to get this information...

The Associated Press on Twitter: "BREAKING: A federal judge has rejected former President Donald Trump's request to withhold records from the House panel investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. https://t.co/AolqIT6vAC" / Twitter

Igotadose · 10-11-2021 10:33AM

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Great line from that judge: "“Presidents are not kings, and Plaintiff is not President.”

#2xIMPOTUS can still appeal, he's trying to run out the clock. Hopefully this is resolved soon.

Rawr · 10-11-2021 01:26PM

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Assuming any of these cases finally come forward to charge Trump with anything (and they are taking their sweet time with this), it will be interesting to see what happens next.

I'm pretty convinced that even if they had audio of Trump litertally telling people to overthrow Congress on Jan 6, and even if the courts rightfully brought charges against him, his sycophantic supporters would be easily convinced that he is just being a victim of the Deep State. Without any evidence, they somehow believed that JFK jr. would come back from the dead and join their cause. I have a feeling that even most damning evidence against Trump will be automatically rejected as highly advanced forgeries.

More importantly, could a court actually convict Trump if he was proven to have actually planned the Jan 6 attack? Rebellion against the United States is a felony that can disqualify a person from public office. If the GOP were sly about this, they might like to see something like that happen to him, so that they're free to run a different Presidential candidate while still pretending to complain how badly Trump is being treated.

duploelabs · 10-11-2021 01:32PM

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One the first paragraph, the courts don't take into account public opinion on the matter so the trumpettes can cry and whinge but that won't be factored into the court.

On the second point, the GOP have had several oppourtunities to jettison trump, the second impeachment for example, yet chose not to. Trump's popularity amongst his base is something the GOP don't want to get rid of, yet.

Rawr · 10-11-2021 01:41PM

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Agreed. Opinions of the Trump cultist shouldn't have any baring on the court. I'm just curious about the mental gymnastics they'll likely use in such a situation. It's both fascinating and annoying in equal measure :P

It is surprising that the GOP haven't taken the chances they've had so far to get rid of him. My guess is that they don't want to be seen as "Anti-Trump" and impeaching him would have been seen that way (thus costing them the Trump base). But if they had a way to get rid of him that wasn't *their fault* then they might be able to hold onto the Trump base. Being convicted by the courts of an offence that bars him from public office would be something that the GOP wouldn't have necessarily done to him, and if they could stage it so that it looks like they tried their best to stop the court but "we did all we could!!", then the Trump base might stick with them and their new non-Trump candidates.

robinph · 10-11-2021 01:47PM

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I just don't understand why they didn't dump him in January? He had lost, was being impeached for a second time, was thrown off social media and whilst he still has a bunch of cult members following him, they are not needed by the GOP for another 3 years. Plenty of time to have dumped Trump and rebuild the image of the party without him.

Instead they are still stuck with Trump until he dies or is otherwise removed from the picture, and they can't build anything around anyone new whilst Trump is still there. Recognised by the GOP as being their man and they are getting smeared with whatever it is that he does for the entiry of the next election cycle.

They clearly want the stuff that Trump is doing to continue, but I can't see any reason how it helps them long term.

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2021 01:49PM

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not true about the three years. they need for mid terms next year. if they piss off trump and his supporters boycott the mid terms then the GOP will tank.

robinph · 10-11-2021 02:20PM

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But they have to be rid of him at some point, what better moment than when he's just left the White House and is in the process of being impeached? Any delay after January because they need him for the next 2 years for election A, and then election B in another 2 years, and election C in another 2 years and they never get shot until he dies.

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2021 02:40PM

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they had a choice to make back in Jan. Drop trump and suffer a couple of years of pain and most like likely lose the mid terms and the 2024 Pres. election. the other option was to keep kowtowing to Trump and suffer until trump decides he has had enough or dies. Option A was the adult choice and the most sensible one. Unfortunately there are no adults at the top of the GOP.

everlast75 · 10-11-2021 02:43PM

I still have a suspicion that he has the goods on some in the party arising from the hacking of the GOP.

Outside chance, but perhaps....

Quin_Dub · 10-11-2021 02:55PM

The GOP want him gone , but are too terrified to pull the trigger themselves.

They are all petrified of either being Primaried by a MAGA support or worse still Trump acolytes running as 3rd party candidates. (Trump won't do it because it would cost him too much money)

The reality is that as long as Trump remains the likely GOP candidate for 2024 , the Democrats have a better than even shot at keeping the WH and the few actual politicians remaining in the GOP understand that clearly.

The absolute ideal scenario for the GOP would be for Trump to be convicted of something by someone thereby making him unable to run in 2024 but allowing the GOP to feed the outrage of the base about how the "deep state" did them dirty and that only big Ron DeSantis (or whoever ) can take back control and right these terrible wrongs etc.

robinph · 10-11-2021 02:59PM

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Would he have been able to keep his mouth shut though?

If not for the fact we're talking about Trump then I'd agree that there must be some dirt, but trump isn't known for keeping quiet or not shouting about how he knows something that you don't know. Maybe if he's on a massive long con and has been fooling the planet for decades about how stupid he is, whilst he actually does know a bunch of stuff. Doubtful though.

Quin_Dub · 10-11-2021 03:06PM

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He doesn't have dirt , but he does have them by the balls though.

Because they let him, he now controls a huge percentage of the core voting base who will do whatever he says.

It's mutually assured destruction , simple as that.

salmocab · 10-11-2021 03:22PM

The voters would dump him quick enough I suspect, you only need to see the number of re regs who tell us that Trump was awful but Biden… to see how quick they dropped him.

notobtuse · 10-11-2021 03:47PM

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I already presented you with plenty of evidence. I can't help it if you just don't like the facts.

duploelabs · 10-11-2021 04:06PM

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cody montana · 10-11-2021 04:06PM

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You and “facts”.

Is that a joke?

notobtuse · 10-11-2021 04:09PM

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Why do you think the GOP are terrified of dumping Trump? Can it be because a large portion of republican voters recognized he governed as a conservative? Can it be because we realize he was the most successful president in modern times and accomplished just about all his campaign promises that put him into office in 2016, and fought tooth and nail to try and enact the ones he failed to accomplish? That we don’t much care about mean tweets or bombastic attitudes, and care more about results? That he didn’t roll over to a biased mainstream media that hates republicans and loves democrats, and refused to allow them to set the agenda? That what he accomplished benefited all American and not just his base? That he was targeted by democrats, their media handmaidens, and their allies in the FBI that all should be rotting in jail right now, in their attempt at a soft coup against a candidate and then a duly elected president... and showed himself to be a fighter against injustice? And that he didn't allow the international community to take us for granted and try and impose their ridiculous global nonsense upon us?

Billy Mays · 10-11-2021 04:10PM

*alternative facts

Hoop66 · 10-11-2021 04:19PM

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Absolute gibberish. If you believe even half of what you just posted then I fear for your mental health.

Go on then, for a laugh, please explain why he is "the most successful president in modern times". Specifics, please, not just "he defied the mainstream media".