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Grazing 2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    You close up very early e ven for a normal year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,008 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Heavy rain forced two paddocks closed here for the year that would love to have grazed again, heavy damp ground.

    have about two weeks grazing if ground conditions don’t go too bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Rain here has forced housed over half the stock. Put them in yesterday ahead of last night's rain. Like Brian I have 3 paddocks I would like to graze but ground conditions are very tricky. Hard to see much drying from now on but will graze out with calves. I'm in a high rainfall area that gets between 1100- 1200mm annually. Well behind this year, so I think we will have a good bit of rain to fall over the winter

    Just left with bucket fed calves and store heifers out.

    Probably will have the heifers housed this coming week. Calves will be probably housed in 10-14 days. They are getting hay out at the moment with their bit of meal. Pull out 5 of the lighter ones and housed them yesterday.

    Has been a good year overall for grass, but a bit tricky managing for past 2 months, in a good way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Who2


    80% housed here. I’ve a batch of replacements still out and they’ll be left out until Christmas a few light weanlings and a batch of finishing cows that have access to a yard for feeding. It’s comfort more so than wandering around ditches looking for off form animals in the dark. I’ve never had as much grass at this time of year . I’ve 9 acres at the back of one of the sheds kept to creep calves out to in early spring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves



    Photos above sorry about the finger I'm the way never looked at them until now.

    Graze out is poor here at present. Only 12 in the bunch and hard to limit area at start of the paddock. I have had heavier covers than this but have got better graze out on them. This is a slightly heavy paddock as you get further into it.

    Last of the photos are if a paddock grazed out about two weeks ago. It was not as heavy as the present one.. It's s paddock that is usually closed for silage. Will be grazed in late March.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭morphy87


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    3rd and 4th photos are the next field I am going to graze next,1st 2nd and last photo is the field they are currently grazing,this field was similar to the one that they are going in to next, they are in this field a week now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Jezzz lads stop depressing me there with your nice photos, my final photo would be pure mud and slop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭morphy87


    You have great grass yourself, are you happy with how they are grazing it? All I am worried about is that quality isn’t reduced in the spring if I don’t graze it tight,I uploaded photos there now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Believe me it’s not always like this! It’s just an exceptional year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Still too mild to be housing cattle. The second half of the week is promised dry and by next weekend temperatures are back on the rise to the early teens.

    Fields I mob grazed a month ago have a new cover of grass on the again with all the growth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Yeah after today it’s meant to pick up again for the week,if the weather comes anyway right I should get all of November out hopefully



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,802 ✭✭✭893bet


    Pretty much all gone in today bar the weanlings. Grass mostly gone and ground conditions gone to pot.


    Ye are blessed with land like that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Do not regraze it you will need that field in March for grazing. I start closing about October 7th I will have 50% of the farm closed by middle of the week. I will concentrate on getting getting some lighter covers grazed out to up closed area.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    I don't like leaving a cover of grass on fields I'll be closing for silage. I find the frost over the winter makes for a lot of rotten tips and grass through the silage. If you get a hard frost then it goes pure brown and needs to be grazed off before closing for silage.

    I think all this regrowth is down to the monsoon like weather we are having now, wet and mild. The wetter and milder it gets the more the grass grows. The other side of it is the feed value, I've put mag buckets out now, some of the calves are still a bit away from weaning but seem to be sucking a lot more in this weathere. I think some of the grass is nothing more than green water so I'm afraid of tetany or grass staggers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Often the frost takes that grass before it's fed . I know that's not teagasc advice but if the ground is holding up ok I let's the cattle eat it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    It dose not. The grass changes from being 10-12%DM with water on it to being 25%+DM. It loses its soft green look but the feeding value increases.

    Brown tips are 70%+DM, I never have a problem getting cattle to graze down such covers.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    All in this morning, they would have drowned standing up this afternoon, exceptional driving rain. Will try them out again if weather is any way reasonable.


    Small prataies left in the ridge are a few inches above ground now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Cracking weather this morning. Hard to believe it's the first week of November, temperatures in the low teens still. I moved cattle back into silage ground that was mob grazed over a month ago. Unreal growth in 4 weeks that I couldn't leave like that for the winter.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Your land looks to be dry land. While fields closed a month ago ( before the 7th October are too early to close everything from that on should not be regrazed. Normally I use 7th October but this year I am going back to Oct1st. Heavy covers grazed over the last 2-3 weeks will be slow to recover over the winter.

    You have land capable of being grazed in late February if it is anyway dry. I have been tempted to leave covers like that. I definitely would leave all covers after 7th October especially with the way fertilizer is going to be in price

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    I know what you are saying, my system I tend to calve all the cows from the 1st of March onwards so they'll be in sheds for the month of March regardless of the weather, and they'll be in a month before calving too. The system works for me as I can start letting cows and calf out 10 days after calving.

    I have a share of dry land but also some higher up land which I have cattle still out on.

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    I had issues before with ground conditions in the past and it was down to being overstocked.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I got milking cows yesterday for a few hours just about in one of my drier paddocks ,no damage so might chance 4 hours grazing today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Sheep are on land here that was grazed six weeks ago. it has lay down and rotting from the bottom, It'd be some mess if left another two mths, previous paddock has recovered well already and will be grazed again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    We’d close off from October with cattle and let ewes clean off, no damage and lovely fresh grass in spring



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Sheep are a great job for cleaning the ground over the winter. Unfortunately it's not an option for me as there are too many household dogs in the area



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    If you were going by the book it needs a hundred days , but if you're lowly stocked it won't make much difference if you don't rest a percentage of your land long enough.

    If you let someone in make sure to tell them they have to strip it when you say,

    Have you huch available, land for sheep grazing is worth €1/week per ewe.

    Donedeal usually ahve lots looking for sheep grazing

    https://www.donedeal.ie/farming?words=sheep%20grazing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Looking at the long range forecast it looks like high pressure for the next week so not much rain. Also there's a chance that the high pressure might form a blocking high to the NE of Ireland next week. If that happens we could get up to another 3 weeks of dry settled weather!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Dunedin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Jimbo789


    Should sheep winter grazing on a cattle farm be treated differently in terms of parasites than if they stayed at home?


    Would it be less worse than them grazing on a different farm that had sheep grazing on it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    There'd be no sheep worms on an all cattle farm, don't know about fluke,The sheep would love an all cattle farm with nice grass for the winter, they love a change



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Fantastic ground conditions still, but running outa grass very quickly here, despite renting some grazing for all the incalf heifers and afew cows, the SR is still 3lu/ha on the milking block, which would be a demand of 48, not a hope growth anywhere near that, so I may just ration out the 20ac left and try not go back on paddocks I've closed up for feb lol. Good complaint to have.



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