New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

breezy1985 · 29-09-2021 02:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954572#Comment_117954572

We are back to the old left wing meaning anyone who isn't a homophobe or racist.

29-09-2021 02:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954347#Comment_117954347

Different rules apply to the broadcasting media. They are governed by the Ofcom Broadcasting Code, particularly - News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality. We have have similar rules here, the BAI Code Of Fairness, Objectivity And Impartiality In News And Current Affairs. The US however, got rid of it's FCC fairness doctrine in 1985, paving the way for Fox News.

ancapailldorcha · 29-09-2021 02:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954572#Comment_117954572

By what metric is Channel 4 left wing, though? If someone is pretending that the Daily Mail is left wing without evidence then I wouldn't even respond to that.

MisterAnarchy · 29-09-2021 03:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954017#Comment_117954017

Its not my fault that the search function on the new platform is crap.

I'm not going to spend my day manually wading through thousands of posts to prove my point.

I know lots of posters have said CNN isnt biased and doesnt have an agenda.

Even when months of editorial meetings tapes were leaked last year, certain CNN lovers tried to dismiss the story because the tapes were leaked by Project Veritas, who they said were untrustworthy.

Perhaps they are but a tape is a tape and they are legitimate.

ancapailldorcha · 29-09-2021 03:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117955028#Comment_117955028

You said "Loads" so why you might think it'd take all day is a bit odd. When I see terms like "CNN lovers", this is why I ask for proof. Project Veritas is a far right, fascist group who deceitfully edit videos. CNN is a legitimate news channel. There is a difference.

Quin_Dub · 29-09-2021 04:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954754#Comment_117954754

Oh - I don't think it is for a moment but it does have a somewhat more "liberal" editorial/opinion viewpoint than the BBC for example so I can see how someone might view them as "left wing" in that context.

Hence my statement of "I'll give you that , just about".

The UK Media as a whole is centre right at best and the suggestion that the right is somehow underserved is simply wrong pretty much across the board.

The other aspect to this is the view of the right to the media outside of the news - They view the entertainment output and take the position that because a TV drama show has characters that are sympathetic to immigrants for example or a show like Mock the week takes pot shots at the Government that makes the "media" left wing.

ohnonotgmail · 29-09-2021 04:13PM

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some accuse the BBC of being left wing.

ancapailldorcha · 29-09-2021 04:20PM

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I don't watch either so I wouldn't know but anyone who thinks that print media is far left is clearly talking out of their hole.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117955166#Comment_117955166

Some accuse Bill Gates of being a lizardmen wearing a skin suit.

AllForIt · 29-09-2021 04:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954572#Comment_117954572

I'm not going down that rabbit hole, so all I'll say is that is my perception.

So I see why ya'll say GBNews is far-right because all the other channels are right-wing already according to ye're perception, because why would there be a need for another right wing channel to talk about things that are already being talked about on the main channels.

Anyway, at least you remember that famous C4 Kathy Newman interview that didn't quite go her way, unlike some.

ArthurDayne · 29-09-2021 11:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954347#Comment_117954347

I guess i would have to say this is a confusing post because, on one hand, you say that what I have written is a tired old argument ...but on the other hand...your post then goes on to confirm the very phenomenon I have spoken of.

You say my argument is tired, but at the same time admit that the media sources cater for their audience -- which is precisely the very point I am making. So when I say that the detractors of the so-called Left wing media don't create or follow any channel that is truly based on open neutral discussion -- but rather just channels that cater for their opinion -- then which part of my argument are you actually disagreeing with? You seem to be agreeing with it wholeheartedly.

Tell me how · 30-09-2021 03:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117953461#Comment_117953461

I guess though what I find interesting is that many people, who seem to sway towards the Right, bemoan the bulldozer of the allegedly Left-biased media while they (the self-proclaimed free thinkers of this world) only want honest and open debate not shackled by political correctness, wokeism or a Leftist agenda.

It's the 'Accuse others of that which you are guilty' political strategy. I may have referenced this once or twice (or 50 times) on here before.

At this point, if a Conservative complains about something, anything, I immediately look for examples of where they are doing the exact same thing. I think they don't even realise it but somewhere in the depths of their subconscious there's some few cells of morality left which is telling them there's something wrong about this, whatever it is, but they lack the introspection to realise it is their own behaviour that is triggering the response, and like a sleeping dog that was stepped on, they immediately react by going on the attack.

I'm half joking above in terms of the process around this but so so often their own words should motivate them to look more closely at their own actions, yet that doesn't seem to happen.

AllForIt · 30-09-2021 03:55AM

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No, not at all. What you meant was some people want to ONLY hear views they agree with and nothing else. That they live in an echo chamber.

What I am saying is they don't necessarily live in a echo chamber even though they may agree with most of what FOX News says, for example.

"Cater for their audience" is just a manner of speaking which means the political slant of the channel.

Just because a channel has an 'audience' it doesn't mean it's an echo chamber which is what you are suggesting. That the channel itself is an echo chamber is not what you were getting at. Evidently there are lots of people committed to the Left and Right that is not based on watching news channels.

What you are doing is characterizing a type of person who's a bid dumb perhaps, not able to see both sides of an argument kinda thing, but I have a feeling if you knew someone who only reads only The Guardian you wouldn't be inclined to say the same thing about that Guardian reader. Sky News Australia and GBNews have a style yes, you might like it, but it's still an alternative option.

And where would you get 'honest and open' debate as you put it nowadays anyway?

Hotblack Desiato · 30-09-2021 12:29PM

Just because a channel has an 'audience' it doesn't mean it's an echo chamber which is what you are suggesting.

GB News is an echo chamber, but it doesn't have an audience 😁

Quin_Dub · 30-09-2021 12:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117958805#Comment_117958805

GB News is an echo chamber, but it doesn't have an audience 😁

Does that make the echo louder?

Apropos - The latest BARB ratings show that the apparent stabilisation of the viewing numbers was a blip.

Latest week shows a return to the downward trajectory they've been on all along.

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-09-2021 03:25PM

Anyone wanna take a guess as to what Farage will be whinging about tonight?

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1443487482209882112?s=19

breezy1985 · 30-09-2021 03:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117959750#Comment_117959750

Will he link it to Brexit though or some bogeyman

ohnonotgmail · 30-09-2021 03:35PM

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I'll take bogeyman for 200 Alex.

pixelburp · 30-09-2021 03:36PM

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More chance of The Guardian picking up a slot on GB News than Farage reversing his longstanding, performative position of "Brexit good, EU Bad". In fact, I'd take a stab that his approach will be: either he'll throw Johnson under the bus for not Brexiting Hard Enough; or it's the dastardly EU "punishing" Britain again, preventing them from that wonderful future outside the world's largest free trade area (during a global supply chain crisis).

30-09-2021 08:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117959750#Comment_117959750

At least the van driver that hit him probably wasn't an immigrant given they have all gone home or is it only the ones that drove trucks that left?

extra gravy · 11-10-2021 12:11PM

https://twitter.com/keithryan28/status/1447319174695563269?t=TJfO6IMmhTlzQq2czQVlOg&s=19

What an embarrassing clown he is.

ancapailldorcha · 11-10-2021 12:16PM

Was scrolling through a TV guide the other day and saw that this is apparently, somehow still broadcasting.

pixelburp · 11-10-2021 12:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004197#Comment_118004197

An Englishman saying "Up the 'RA", even if joking, is a pretty distasteful thing to hear. Especially as even tacit support for republicanism has stymied plenty of other, perhaps more prominent, politicians down the years. Something tells me The Sun won't be running this anytime soon. Then again, it is easy to be undone by your principles - whereas someone like Farage has none.

AllForIt · 11-10-2021 01:05PM

https://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/news/former-sky-news-correspondent-mark-white-is-joining-gb-news-258937/

So Isabel Oakeshott and Sky News correspondent of 22 years Mark White have joined GBNews since September. Especially odd that Mark White would join at this time when so many people are convinced it hasn't got long to live, and the ratings would be known to him. Perhaps he knows something we don't know.

Mark White was reporting the other day on the migrant channel crossings and he was talking about male migrants throwing away their passports and disappearing into their diaspora. That is the fist time I've head that said on any UK news channel where previously I only heard it on this thread which iirc was met with some scepticism as if it were some makey-uppy claim designed to cause a panic but turns out it's a thing.

breezy1985 · 11-10-2021 01:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004549#Comment_118004549

That "throwing away the passport" barstool talk has been going round a long time now and you or GBnews are no where near the first people to spread that rumour

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-10-2021 01:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004242#Comment_118004242

He's certainly one of the last people I'd have thought would ever say something like that. Unless he has no idea who the 'RA' actually are.

breezy1985 · 11-10-2021 01:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004591#Comment_118004591

Shure his type of England first patriot would be very supportive of a United Ireland so that the island of Britain could be truly "free" of the EU

AllForIt · 11-10-2021 01:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004585#Comment_118004585

Oh right so it's been covered up for ages now. No wonder Mark White left Sky News since he was being gagged.

pixelburp · 11-10-2021 02:07PM

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It's the only thing I can think of, but then given his age it seems a little hard to believe he wouldn't have any idea who "the 'RA" might be. Mind you, I went to college in '99 and remember a Dubliner asking a fellow Ulsterman (in apparent earnestness), "Who's Ian Paisley? Is he the IRA guy?" so the door swings both ways.

I'm not even outraged; it's just kinda funny. It's like something you'd have seen during the heyday of Chris Morris' "Brass Eye"; those skits where he fooled celebrities to take part in PSAs for transparently idiotic campaigns? Farage's cheerful "Up the 'RA" reminds me of that.

breezy1985 · 11-10-2021 02:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004658#Comment_118004658

No I have heard it loads of places no cover up. Can't be covered up if it's not real though

Padraig178 · 11-10-2021 02:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118004219#Comment_118004219

Apparently so. The backers have very deep pockets although how they'll fare when Murdoch launches his rival channel is another matter.

I tune in occasionally but largely find it unwatchable. The production values are still amateurish and some of the presenters are hard going. Dan Wootton makes we want to throw something at the TV. The Coast Guy Neil Oliver is an exception.Smart,lucid broadcaster.

Funnily enough Nigel Farage has become a very good broadcaster, thanks in part to his stint on LBC Radio where he learned the ropes. Surprisingly he's remarkably unpartisan when he's hosting interviews and he's got a keen nose for what makes a good story. He was covering the rise in cross-channel migration earlier this year when the MSM weren't going anywhere near it. I reckon it's almost inevtiable he'll eventually be plying his trade in the States on somewhere like Fox with their filthy lucre.

New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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