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No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Last time i was talking to our Solas contact she said there was 1200 on both electrical and plumbing waiting lists for phase 2 of the apprenticeship, whereas there was 100 on our waiting list. Theyve slipped up big time over the last few years and tis going to take most lads and ladies a minimum of 5 years to qualify now.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Such a shame it slipped for them. I was talking to my youngest there recently about trades recently making sure she knows it’s also a great route to a livelihood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Looks like a nice dry week in store next week...im thinking of doing a 2nd cut of bale silage on a field then.....(20 acres excess grass)...no takers for zero grazing around, no one is short grass this year.....


    Tell me im wrong??

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Absolutely agree with getting a trade. Youngest wanted to be a Marine Biologist since he was in playschool. He worked towards his goal and thankfully is employed in a Government full time pensionable job. Eldest was totally different, he is currently living in Aus and working in the buildings on what they call form work. He left school (against my wishes) in the middle of 5th year and never sat his Leaving Cert. He got a job in another well know large Dublin pub/nightclub for a few years to gather money before heading to Aus. He now loves what he does and said to me recently that he would never have thought to take the choice/option of doing carpentry/woodwork when at school. Some lads need to spread their wings far and wide before they learn how to land back to Earth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,372 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Who would ye contact if a phone line pole is leaning over/towards the road?

    There's a broadband box on it as well as the obvious danger of it falling in the next storm.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,372 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    20211005_124619.jpg

    (Leaning pole of wexico).

    The pole on left is straight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭dzer2


    The other twin has his first yr done as an apprentice carpenter. Absolutely loves it. I done fitting when I left school and afterwards done night classes in mechanical engineering and later done electrical engineering as well. A lot easier to do the college when you have an income.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    2nd year fitting myself now too, looking into nightclasses for welding and stoving here at the moment too, was looking into the engineering side of things too but nothing suited me in regards flexibility along with work. Such a broad area to be working in you wouldnt be stuck for variety once qualified anyway.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭GiantPencil


    She lost her calf in Feb so she's been looking after herself since, was 805kg in the ring today. Auctioneer called her out as being a French import anyway and anything over 1000 and I'd have been delighted given the fact that she was a 9 year old too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I automatically thought about the P&T but their defunct, then I was going to suggest Telecom Eireann but they are also gone by the wayside, then I thought about Eircom (never forgot the shares debacle and thankfully I bought a Connie pony instead) but alas they don't exist anymore either so my best guess is EIR on 1850 245 424.

    https://www.openeir.ie/dangerous-plant-reporting/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    A trade is massive, maybe better than a degree

    The problem is nobody wanted an apprentice up until recent, they were happy to have extra labourers on lower wages.

    We lost allot of trained guys locally to US OZ etc back in bust as they couldn’t get work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,372 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Thanks. 😅

    I may ring that number Monday.

    Reason I asked I was near that pole earlier in the year when some young fella was walking away from it. I asked what he was doing (it was lashing rain at the time). He said a van had dropped him off and he was inspecting the pole. He said he found that pole acceptable and there was a good few years left in it still. I told him it was a hazard. Reading back what I typed you'd wonder was he legit. But he said it was logged in to be checked.

    I'll ring Monday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    The US and Aus are crying out for qualified trades people and apparently pay a hell of a lot more than they would get in Ireland. Eldest told me that a qualified carpenter in Aus will get $90+ per hour whereas he (unqualified) is getting from $50 to $65 depending on the job and the taxes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Out of interest have a look and see does it have the original P7T symbol stamped into it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    I rang that number for the dangerous poles 2 years ago after it got hit a lad rang me back onsite at half 12 at night. I told him that a higher new pole was needed and 2 elderly people had the monitored alarms depending on it. Pole was replaced within the week to be fair



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Lifestyle is a huge bonus out there too as well as the weather, way better value for youre tax as well.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Agreed, tradesmen good or bad are like hens teeth here now and they can pretty much name their price. Building a handy enough sized bungalow here at the moment and the labour for the block work and roof alone is coming in over 20k. They all saying they cant keep the work done or find apprentices to take on. I think it will be a huge problem in another couple of years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Is the building not going to soon stop with increased costs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭einn32


    The rules around mortgages here in Oz are changing to try take the steam out of the market. Stress test will have higher percentage points. Market is on fire and developers are pushing ahead full pelt. I can't complain I'm making a living off it but the Irish experience is always in my head. House prices increasing all the time despite covid and supply issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Great to see the crowd in Cork Last night despite Beef Plan doing their best to undermine the rallies.

    They really are anti farmer and farming/agriculture.

    They should f.. off now and let real farmers protect their future, my rent depends on them succeeding.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Jim_11


    I was there for a few years up till 2016, I thought very strong about buying property and staying long term but I thought the backside was going to fall out of it the way house prices were going, it was ridiculous and I was sure I’d get stung. Turns out it hasn’t stopped going up since



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Lads nd lasses I cant see any of the soccer forums, what's going on?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭straight


    China kept the bubble going for them. I'd imagine they will fall now as China is slowing down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭straight


    It's too little, too late. I don't think they got the message out too well either. Their main message seemed to be trying to maintain the status quo with FF and FG and telling the greens to butt out. There should have been real issues raised and put into the public domain and they need a social media presence. They came across very bad if you ask me considering the strong case they have to put forward. The vast majority of people outside of farming have no idea of the workload and investment involved in the industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭green daries


    You have to request access to the soccer forum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    There wouldve been a much more concentrated effort meeting the government in the last couple weeks, up to 200 members would've met politicians at a session,near the dail and I'm sure again locally this weekend. We shouldn't care about educating the public they don't give a sh... about us.

    Plenty of stuff on the net about it

    https://www.ifa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/IFA-Pre-Budget-Submission-2022.pdf

    https://www.foe.ie/news/2010/12/16/ifa-is-scaremongering-about-impact-of-climate-change-law/

    https://www.ifa.ie/ifa-campaigns/climate-action/

    Plenty going on, Climate action is only one of many campaign.

    Just remarking a Beef plan member posting that IFA are doing nothing, he started farming in 1990, he got a lovely place same acreage as mine, he didn't have the 20% interest in the 1980s nor the 5 years nursing home bills That I had,

    He was substantially better off than I was in 1990. He just didn't put in the effort.

    Everything I have is due to IFA delivery, even the OH remarked the other day that she didn't mind paying the IFA membership as her contributary pension has just kicked off. None thought we'd get that for farmers wives that already had a Public Service pension, But there you go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    I was at the local Ifa meeting lately and they had a guest speaker, and I have to say he was a brilliant speaker and you could tell he is was passionate. He was explaining all that goes on in the background. In fairness the Ifa have very competent people at various roles who can get things done.

    it’s a terrible pity the whole debacle happened with Ifa cause it really weakened not only the organisation but also farmers representation.

    I was supportive of beef plan at the beginning but they completely self imploded. I feel sorry for Corley in a way because it just all ran away from him. but for all those who shouted the loadest, it’s easy tell people what they want to hear but hard to back it up.

    every split from the Ifa is weakening farmers hands. They were protesting just to be able to negotiate with the government, in years gone by that would have been a given.

    sure any minister now can play one organisation off the other.

    one thing that is an issue for Ifa I think is most farms now are one, maybe two enterprises, whilst years ago most farms had a few different things going. It is very hard to keep everyone happy now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,919 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    The optics from Cork weren't great either with shiny new top of the range high end tractors rolling threw the streets - a m8 was on a stag in the city and said alot of the locals weren't exactly impressed with the message or the spectacle. If thats whats planned for Dublin its likely to go down even worse since the Mica crowd got alot of grief on Dublin Radio stations for slowing the M50 and most non-farmers would be more sympathetic to their plight compared to a certain section of farmers riding into town on 6 figure machines protesting about their right to keep increasing nitrate pollution or keeping the current dysfunctional tax payer supported CAP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    A lot of complaints about Cullinan but it was his solo run at the factory gates that got him elected, probably ironically by dual beef plan /ifa members that are now criticising him.

    I always thought he came across like a rabbit in the headlights so i didn't support him, but he's now another target for BP posting

    You'd give credit where it's due if BP were doing anything but they're not only as you say giving politicians ammo to use against IFA.

    Each commodity commitee runs pretty well independent of each other so it should work.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    My back and hearing is wrecked from a MF 135 and MF 188. To be wishing those days on us again is a bit sick..



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