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When you are comparing oles tenure with Ferguson and talks or it being turned around like with the Robins goal I think it's nostalgia leading you there I'm Not sure what other word to use but I don't see it as anything else when you make a connection like that.

I never told You to stop Saying anything you are entitled to post like I am, I'm well aware anything I say here ain't having an effect that doesn't mean we shouldn't talk and if I see you say something I disagree with I'm. Just voicing my thoughts on your thoughts. And I've no anger towards you.

I always hate the hive mind thing when someone takes up a position that isn't popular you are going to get multiple people Disagreeing such is life, I don't talk to anyone from. This thread outside of it and I've had plenty of opinions thatr aren't the popular one (my most recent is how little I rate mctominay)

I didn't say your post wasn't reasonable but just because you don't see an ideal replacement doesn't mean there isn't one, I also don't want ole just sacked because I'd hope the club has plans for all sorts of things including this situation.

I don't want just anyone but I believe a high percentage of managers would be an improvement

I can't speak for everyone but I guess when people want to give out about ole they dont want to talk about the glazers and maybe it is lost in translation but even though you don't say he deserves more time you post can come across as defending him.

For me I'm just sick of seeing ole on the bench I'm at the point were him being manager takes a lot of the enjoyment away I get from watching matches, and it's been like that for a long time, at least with lvg and Jose you saw what they were trying to do or implement, with Ole it's all over the place like he will try something and it'll get destroyed aka spurs last year and we are back to mc Fred.

He has no courage when he tries to do things differently cause he seems so afraid of failing, and I believe a lot of this comes down to them having ideas about what they want the players to do but no idea how to coach it so it looks seemless on the pitch.

A few failures and we are back to square one it's like ground hog day with him as manager for me.

You say changing him might be changing him for change sake but for me it's the club trying to fix a problem which is positive, keeping him is just staying in limbo hoping for the best. Which is a positive step for me.

Yes everything goes back to the glazers as owners of the club it is all There responsibility but it is also other responsibility to do there jobs.

And how boring would the discussions be here if we blamed glazers 100% for everything, maguire poor positioning , stupid glazers, Fred bad pass, glazers fault. And look That point is a bit hyperbolic but I hope.you get where I'm Coming from.

I really don't think ole has done well at all, I think he has done some good things I also think he has been an extremely lucky manager, in a season where Liverpool, Chelsea, spurs had major issues and City had a bad start is exactly the kind of year we should be looking to compete when we are in a period of relative stability but we didn't even come close to it.

For me that's an opportunity wasted not something to be celebrated.

Don’t think it’s hyperbole in the slightest, Farke for example has won the championship twice, I would imagine the general standard of the Norwegian league is around the league two mark so ole winning that is not that impressive.

I’m aware Farke has taken them down a couple of times, ole did the same with Cardiff.

I loved ole as a player but as a coach I’m baffled people thinking he is remotely the answer. My arsenal, Chelsea, spurs, pool friends want him to stay forever, they are happy with those last minute goals as it keeps him a bit longer, that says it all!