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What are some of your unpopular cycling related opinions?

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    #92
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    1. Cycle infrastructure (outside of off road stuff), whether deemed good or bad, is bad. I don't like it and overall it gives both authorities, the general population and the gardai an excuse to victim blame cyclists in almost every scenario. I'd sooner a camera on every junction with ANPR for RLJing, speeding and bus lane use than ever have another bit of "safe" infrastructure.
    2. Tailgating large vehicles, while immensely dangerous, is good fun and I have no issue with anyone doing it, so long as they accept the consequences (and blame) are theirs alone if anything goes wrong.


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    #93
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Grand tours are a **** format, there should be more individual tests and less opportunity to hide in the best team.



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    #94
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Every cycling group has at least one monumental a55hole.


    (If you disagree with this and you cycle in a group then guess what…..)



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    #95
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943565#Comment_117943565

    If these winter commutes are mostly in an urban setting, I have to say I've never been caught out without batteries. I have a redundancy of lights anyway, but I bring spare charged batteries (and obviously buy lights that can swap batteries).


    I don't have a lot of experience commuting on interurban routes or rural roads, so I can't really comment about those.



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    #96
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,322 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943966#Comment_117943966

    To paraphrase Raylan Givens, if you join a group with one asshole, you joined a group with an asshole. If you run into assholes in every group you join, you're the asshole...

    Post edited by Macy0161 on


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    #97
    thehairygrape
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭thehairygrape


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117942771#Comment_117942771

    Fair enough. Just got tired of been driven off a shared pathway for the third time. I’ll edit proper cyclists to cyclists who behave properly. Take your point there.



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    #98
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117940797#Comment_117940797

    How do you reach a conclusion - when you see a group of cyclists coming towards you - that 'these guys are activists'? Are they wearing badges?

    What sets them apart?

    If anything, I'd say very few cyclists are activists. There are very few cycle protests for example, and when there are not all that many people show up.

    Yes for sure there are cyclists who break the rules of the road, cycle where they shouldnt etc. And I know whataboutery etc etc but what makes this group worse than pedestrians who jaywalk or the ubiquitous pavement parking that we see up and down the length and breadth of the country, and is far more common than for example cyclists on footpaths.



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    #99
    thehairygrape
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭thehairygrape


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117944438#Comment_117944438

    Well, the reason I don’t mention jaywalkers and parking is this thread is about cycling/cyclists. Just to clarify, the group I’m talking about are perfectly entitled to cycle on the paths I mention. They just take over that path. It’s a shared path between walkers/runners and cyclists. I cycle there myself. No cars. Their behaviour does not reflect well on cyclists. As to how I know, well you’ll just have to take my word for it.



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    #100
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117945225#Comment_117945225

    It doesnt reflect well on them - it has nothing to do with what other cyclists do. To put it differently - some people are assholes; and by extension that means some cyclists are assholes. I wouldnt even say that's a cycling related opinion. Its a human nature opinion. It doesnt reflect on cyclists or cycling at all really.

    Same in all walks of life.

    Post edited by Tombo2001 on


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    #101
    scottygee
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭scottygee


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117937910#Comment_117937910

    I'm on this train LOL



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    #102
    stevencn88
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭stevencn88


    Cyclests who jump red lights....only for me to over take them shortly after....and jump the next set and so on.



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    #103
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,737 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    hardly an unpopular opinion!



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    #104
    stevencn88
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭stevencn88


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117947367#Comment_117947367

    Happening enough for me to believe I'm in the minority!



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    #105
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    EBikes are more like motorbikes than pedal bikes.



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    #106
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948379#Comment_117948379

    Including proper pedelecs?



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    #107
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Mod Note

    Posts and responses deleted. Please read the charter, espeically:

    There are lots of places on the internet where you can have a rant about cyclists. This isn't one of them. This is a place for people with an interest in cycling to discuss cycling. If you treat it as a venue for holding all cyclists to account for perceived or actual misbehaviour by some, you can expect to find your access swiftly removed. In short, we are not your punching bag. If you really do want do want an answer to your gripe, do a search. The usual topics, such as cycle lanes, cycling two abreast etc. have been discussed, ad nauseam, many, many times before.

    If you're not interested in cycling, don't post in this forum.

    Any questions on moderation, PM the mods. Do not respond on thread.

    Thanks



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    #108
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948620#Comment_117948620

    Depends on who is on them. Elderly cyclists use them for exercise; I do feel that teenagers use them as quasi mopeds.



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    #109
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948896#Comment_117948896

    Yeah, some of the ones out there aren't pedelecs. You see people going along without pedalling at all. That means it's not a pedelec, and is in the light motorcycle category.



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    #110
    daragh_
    Registered Users Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭daragh_


    Gravel Riding is for people who are afraid of Cyclocross.



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    #111
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,737 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948896#Comment_117948896

    pedelecs make life easier for cyclists, but your average experience on a (legitimate) pedelec is far more akin to that of a cyclist than a motorcyclist.



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    #112
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949183#Comment_117949183

    I would have thought so. The average speeds are noticeably higher than a bike, but you don't see people really tearing around on pedelecs.



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    #113
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,737 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my wife got one recently. for me, cycling it is slower than cycling my 'normal' bike. it's not an easy bike to cycle faster than 25km/h.



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    #114
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949351#Comment_117949351

    Oh yeah, but the average speed of one around town seems to be around 20km/h or so, while the average speed of people on normal bikes (not fit people on road bikes) is down around 12km/h or something like that.



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    #115
    Yermander
    Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭Yermander


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949128#Comment_117949128

    Is that not just a difference between riding and racing? Like people riding on the road vs people racing?



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    #116
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    My wife bought me this jersey a year or two ago and I believe the consensus amongst the cycling world is that you can't wear it.

    Every other sport tolerates fans wearing jerseys but there's a certain snobbery in cycling that frowns at it.


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    Doesn't stop me occasionally wearing it though!



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    #117
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,737 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i think it's partly because there's a tribalism with other sports that you don't get with cycling. there's rarely a home town team (bar your local cycling club) you could really identify with; for example, you're not going to get two cyclists showing a DQS vs EF rivalry in the same way you'd get an everton vs liverpool rivalry, where you have obvious reasons to identify with one team.

    plus, just thinking about it - what other sports have strip which changes depending on whether you're the leader/winner?

    would wearing the rainbow stripes be akin to turning up at an athletics meet with a gold medal already hanging around your neck?



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    #118
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,322 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949128#Comment_117949128

    Gravel riding is for me because I was afraid of mountain biking!



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    #119
    cletus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,914 ✭✭✭cletus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949471#Comment_117949471

    Rugby and football jerseys often have stars above the crest to signify championship wins, and the supporters jersey would also have them



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    #120
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,621 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949471#Comment_117949471

    For me, wearing a leaders jersey is a bit like showing up to a game of 5 a side football in full matching kit.



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    #121
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    would wearing the rainbow stripes be akin to turning up at an athletics meet with a gold medal already hanging around your neck?


    For me, wearing a leaders jersey is a bit like showing up to a game of 5 a side football in full matching kit.

    But these comments are what I was saying. Really, why should it matter? I see kids all the time wearing Ronaldo tops and the like and nobody bats an eyelid.



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