Anti-British Xenophobia and Hatred in Ireland

Sunny Disposition · 27-09-2021 04:58PM

Of course there were offensive headlines referring to Irish people in the English tabloids in the 80s, that's beyond dispute. But anti Irish racism 30 years ago doesn't justify anti English racism now.

I was in London for a lot of the 80s, didn't really have any bother with the English tbh, believe it or not they were wise enough to know that we didn't really like having the city we were living in blown up. Sure there was some nasty stuff in the papers and there'd be a very, very odd thick fcker, but it wasn't that bad.

VinLieger · 27-09-2021 05:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117945202#Comment_117945202

Thats some fair persecution complex your hanging onto their aegir, if you care to show me any facts to back up the claim that a vast amount of Irish people hate the english im happy to read it.....

FYI i dont hate English people, i hate ignorant, arrogant, entitled bigots, traits that define most members of their conservative party and many who also vote for that party and they just happen to be english.

Also accusing me of being a nationalist is hilarious, ask some of the actual nationalists on this site, ie francie, junkyard tom et about my very non-nationalist credentials on here and you might like to rethink your painting with broad strokes, incredibly simplistic, view of the world.

Flinty997 · 27-09-2021 05:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946023#Comment_117946023

I said dislike not hate. So I dunno why you are asking me.

MBE220d · 27-09-2021 05:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946314#Comment_117946314

I lived there in the 80s and 90s for 15 years and put up with a lot of s*it at times but overall I enjoyed my time there, the way I have always looked at it, the UK gave me a good living when there was nothing in this country in the 80s, I worked hard made a few pounds that's what it was all about.

I still think it's a very racist country and have always said we are only 20 years behind the UK in everything that happens.

27-09-2021 05:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946355#Comment_117946355

I didn't accuse you of being a nationalist, just that the obsession with the English comes from deep rooted nationalism that this country thrives on. I gave examples of that. Being conditioned by nationalism, does not make someone a nationalist.

I mean, why is it that a thread about British politics gets far more posts on here than a thread about Irish politics? people here are far more interested in overcrowding at a hospital in Liverpool than they in Limerick. It just seems strange when people like to ignore the shortcomings in their own country and focus on those in England to make themselves feel somehow more superior. irish governments have gotten away with murder over the years because people just don't want to know, but obsess and get ridiculously animated about the Tories.

it really is quite bizarre.

27-09-2021 05:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946284#Comment_117946284

Well the first part of that was right. However the tabloid and below the line commentators are also anti Irish since Brexit. Anti everything really except the US, if the republicans are in power.

the crowing about the french being upset by AUSUK was a sight to behold.

FrancieBrady · 27-09-2021 05:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946456#Comment_117946456

The only bizarre thing is your assessment of this forum. 'People are focussed more on what happens in Britain'? Really?

People express themselves. Nobody is obsessing. There are dislikeable things about all peoples, Irish, English, Scottish etc etc.

Over sensitivity sees threads like these pop up.

27-09-2021 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946456#Comment_117946456

The obsession with internal English politics unrelated to Ireland is bizarre as is the obsession with US internal politics.

that’s not the case with Brexit, which does matter to Ireland.

Anyway Irish nationalism is a timid weak thing, SF are woke, our right wingers (ie FG) are pro British, modern FF is apparently anti nationalist, our newspapers are the ex pro imperial IT and the Independent - the home of eoghan harris and the anti Hume rhetoric of the 90s. And the Sunday times is the biggest selling Sunday paper. It’s not surprising then that you get Irish people who take the British Brexit position, which is absurd. I mean an Irish columnist accused Ireland of bullying the U.K. because we simply asked - what’s up with the GFA? What’s happening with the border

contrast that with your brethren up north and the sectarian supremacist marches, the burning of flags etc.

FrancieBrady · 27-09-2021 05:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946491#Comment_117946491

Well do show me how often this 'obsessive' has posted on the thread you claim Irish obsessives are 'focussed' on?

I mean, why is it that a thread about British politics gets far more posts on here than a thread about Irish politics? people here are far more interested in overcrowding at a hospital in Liverpool than they in Limerick.

I think you just proved my point about over sensitivity with that comment and the complete self centred assessment of what happens on this forum.

27-09-2021 06:07PM

Its difficult to like the English when they are so arrogant and so obviously full of ****. I say this as a naturalised Irish Citizen who was born in England.

I have come to despise just about everything the English represent. The farce that is Brexit helped to crystalize my thinking on the English nation. A subject population with no real self regard beyond what their establishment tells them about their Englishness (which is mostly outright lies).

Never let it be forgotten that the English Establishments let millions of Irish and other nationalities starve to death because of their arrogance, racism and ideological fanaticism. That nastiness and brutality never went away and is now been imposed on their own population for want of anyone left to victimize.

Individually most are quite nice - but as a nation they develop unpleasant group characteristics. These sentiments maybe considered xenophobic if they weren't been said about my own people.

Wanderer78 · 27-09-2021 06:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058210587/anti-british-xenophobia-and-hatred-in-ireland

there will always be arseholes in society unfortunately

27-09-2021 06:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946459#Comment_117946459

it reminded me a lot of that time when Von der leyen almost triggered Art 16, and the same crowd had a complete w*nkfest about it for a good 10 days.

but back to the subject, yes we do have this anti-british thing, at various intensities, but a big chunk of it is asshat teenagers with unfunny jokes and memes which they don't really believe themselves, clowns who might tag a lamp post with up the ra but only because they're bored of drawing cocks . i have been that asshat ... sort of, but at least never with the sht ms paint memes or bus shelter scrawls.

so basically we have to break it up into serious xenophobia, and little edgelord gimps.

Tony EH · 27-09-2021 06:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117945540#Comment_117945540

There is no "confusion". It's just strategic whinging in the victimisation Olympics. The OP is just the English version of the "you hate America cos you criticised us" nonsense. Seriously, crying because someone called Boris Johnson a "prick".

HAHAHA fkn' 'ell.

Poor mouth OP's like this deserve all the contempt that they get.

FrancieBrady · 27-09-2021 07:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946731#Comment_117946731

These threads always pop up when it's a look away moment in Britain.

VinLieger · 27-09-2021 07:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946456#Comment_117946456

I find your obsessive persecution complex perplexing. Just a quick glance at the top threads on page one of this forum there are 10 threads related to Irish politics and many are on their second or third iteration so your claim that people talk more about British politics holds absolutely no water.

What also perplexes me is how you still are surprised people in Ireland take an interest in British politics as even post Brexit we are inexorably linked thanks to our land border with them, proximity, culture and history. Why wouldn't we be interested in such a large, significant neighbor that in recent years has consistently acted in bad faith and made multiple attempts both indirectly and directly by their perfidious actions to negatively affect our day to day lives? Thankfully they have mostly been unsuccessful but your suggestion that we pretty much ignore them is baffling to be honest.

RobMc59 · 27-09-2021 07:44PM

I began posting on boards three years ago and was immediately shocked by the amount of anti British sentiment evident across many threads.When I brought the subject up I was constantly informed that was`nt the case but the myriad of threads about Britain(mainly negative) is a sight to see for a British person.

Having said that,in day to day interactions I`ve had in Ireland they`re not like that(or incredibly two faced!)🤣

MBE220d · 27-09-2021 07:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946941#Comment_117946941

You can bet your life on an awful lot of them being two-faced, in fact, they are experts at it.

sligojoek · 27-09-2021 08:10PM

From 1988

hawley · 27-09-2021 08:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946731#Comment_117946731

The point about Boris being called a prick on here was in response to someone complaining about comments on Leo Varadkar in the British press.

27-09-2021 08:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946885#Comment_117946885

It isn’t an obsessive persecution, it is my honest opinion.

sorry if that hurts your sensitivities.

like I said, the Irish are good at giving it, very very bad at taking it.

VinLieger · 27-09-2021 08:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117947144#Comment_117947144

What are we not good at taking exactly? You claimed we talk way more about Britain and its politics than we do about Irish issues and its politics that's patently untrue from even a cursory glance at the top 30 threads in this forum alone.

If anything you seem to be the one who cannot take it as you cry foul at any tiny criticism of Britain and whinge that we don't complain about Ireland enough.

From my point of view its pretty obsessive by the way as its far from the first time youve done this. You did it in the covid UK thread multiple times and im certain ive seen you make the same complaint in the Politics forum as well, not to mention the many times you've undoubtedly made the same distraction argument the same thing in threads in current affairs.

Because lets be real here thats all it is an attempt at distracting and whataboutery based on your own bias that Britain can do know wrong or at least far less wrong than those who view things from a different side of history and politics will ever agree with you on.

tdf7187 · 27-09-2021 08:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117945202#Comment_117945202

None of this is correct. Every single thing you've said here is inaccurate.

Junkyard Tom · 27-09-2021 08:47PM

I wish we had the luxury of not giving a shite about the British/English. Alas the British state remains an existential danger to our country and will continue to be. Brexit has demonstrated some of the vile attitudes towards Ireland in the English/British ruling classes.

dudley72 · 27-09-2021 08:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117947197#Comment_117947197

If anythign the British are more reliant on us now than we are on them, we should be pushing people to learn French/German etc and push into mainland Europe instead of sitting hoping England finally get sorted.

Just look at the likes of Musgrave going out into Europe and supplying "UK" shops in mainland Europe with british type food. Just an example but a good one.

reubenreuben · 27-09-2021 09:06PM

Odd thing I have noticed over the years is that there is a lot of anti britishness online like on journal.ie comments section for example, but rarely see it out in the open.

Keyboard warriors eh!

Happydays2020 · 27-09-2021 09:08PM

It is important to be able to not take ourselves too seriously.

https://twitter.com/davidmcw/status/1169145649725681664?s=21

27-09-2021 09:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117947183#Comment_117947183

I gave my opinion, you respond with ad hominem and whataboutery.

therefore proving my point.

27-09-2021 09:17PM

It is my experience that Irish people have an aversion to offending people, but if you scratch the surface and reassure them that their honest opinion will not offend you - they generally have very mixed feelings about their neighbour country.

It looked for a long time that old animosities were fading, but the total ignorance of issues brought about by Brexit and its impact on Ireland make it hard for people to be so generous in their opinions of the English.

27-09-2021 09:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117947197#Comment_117947197

existential threat 😂

brilliant 🤣

osarusan · 27-09-2021 09:22PM

Not that it qualifies as hatred, but I remember one time a good few years ago, I was in a pub getting ready to watch Ireland against England in rugby. There were 3 English lads sitting/standing round the barrel-for-a-table next to mine. The Irish anthem came on first, and then when the English anthem came on, the bar staff turned it down. The English lads were looking around with a sense of confusion and slight unease.

One of the saddest, pettiest things I'd seen in a long time.

Anti-British Xenophobia and Hatred in Ireland

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