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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it passed so many of the Mayo players by. A great start to get 2 points up and then Tyrone took over and dictated the whole pace of the game. The only Mayo forward who looked to have the beating of his man was Conroy but they just didn't play him enough. Himself and donoghue looked to be isolated. I was surprised to see Tyrone play the more direct football. I had shivers up my spine watching all the Mayo cars heading East today as they past my Town. I feel awful for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Philo62


    Really feel for Mayo supporters & hoped they would take their chance today but they proved they are well short of being top class as suggested above. Reality is Tyrone, Kerry & half teams in Ulster would fancy their chances against Mayo any given day, Dublin may also be competitive for another year or 2. Today was a massive opportunity & Mayo displayed great endeavour but little in way of class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    Thats a load of bollo*. Mayo should have bet Dublin in 2 finals. Lost on sideline. Dont mind the figures you read playing GAA in Dublin it is not as strong as people have you think. There are a few huge clubs who dominate, Ballyboden, Kilmacud, Cuala, Brigits, Na Fianna & Vincents. A lot of other clubs struggle in densely populated areas where soccer is dominant sport. Crumlin Ballyfermot Drimnagh which covers a big area struggle at juvenile level and amalgamate at various ages and still struggle. But a few journalists will have you believe differently. Dublins home ground is Parnell park and unless the GAA buy them ground which I proposed about 25 years ago the GAA want them in Croke park. Its not Dublins choice. Its about Croke park.

    As for losing to Tyrone, that is a bit disingenuous. Without doubt Tyrone sides be they club or county are exceptionally well prepared. Look up Tyrone centre of excellence at Garvaghy and see the facilities. They are one of the most skillful group of players you will ever see. They make the most of what they have, Mayo didnt today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Vish81


    Cillian o Connor is injury prone..

    Seeing multiple posters on here thinking we'll be grand when he returns along with a few others.

    More forwards needs to be unearthed ,simple as that, and a few senior members need to step aside to allow this young team prosper otherwise we are on the road to nowhere.

    There's no hard luck today, scrutiny is something that needs to be implemented within the management set-up and the fans.

    Were too soft .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Vish81




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭pimpmyhat


    I think O' Donoghue played very well.

    Didn't expect as big a performance from the Tyrone midfield



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Tyrone have forwards who score, we have forwards who don't. They had so much more composure and we were ridiculously brainless. Absolutely no composure.

    Very few performed, but I think the sideline was a massive contributing factor to that loss. Horan to me reverted to the Horan of old. Thick, stubborn and a blunt refusal to remedy what were pretty obvious issues out there. A disaster really and that lies with him.

    We will continue to contest, but won't be winning an All-Ireland any time soon.

    Kudos to Tyrone.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    O'Shea was probably the worst player on the pitch today. Contributed nothing and made it real simple for Tyrone to play out from the back.The amount of times he was just motionless on the field was shocking. Can't understand why Horan didn't pull him, it was obvious to the whole stadium how poor he was today.

    Really feel sorry for Keegan and Durcan, excellent games today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭MfMan


    No. Choose one of the midfielders or wing-forwards to say the very least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 longballer


    Commiserations to genuine Mayo fans and to all associated with the squad. Your team ran up against a very determined, focused and skilful Tyrone team today and wasn’t able to perform to your peak ability. Your genuine supporters will realise that the team went out intending to play well and win. They didn’t intentionally miss a penalty, cough up possession, slow down attacks, miss goal chances or react to provocation and get sent off. Tyrone pressure hugely contributed to all of the above. Your players are class footballers, all of them, and some posters on this thread seem to be forgetful of the many great days you have got as a result of these amateur efforts. In Tyrone, we’ve huge respect for your county including your genuine fans and while I understand your frustration at getting beat, it wasn’t for any want of desire on your players part. Some days momentum and the rub of the green is with you and some days it isn’t. Unfortunately for Mayo you haven’t been getting much luck on the biggest day of the year, but that will change and all of your current players are capable of playing a part when that day surely comes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Just on the losing on the sideline part. From what I remember we just didn't have the quality of player coming off the bench that Dublin did in 2016 and 2017. Sideline did everything they could right both those days. But replacing Andy Moran for Danny Kirby or David Drake was step down. That's all there was to it. 2013 loss to Dublin I will concede that if we were smarter from the sideline we could have bet Dublin that day. But 16 and 17, the better squad won, simple as.


    Same problem today, Horan plays horan ball, doesn't matter who the opposition are. Looked like he didn't watch the other semi final at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    Jese I've only came on here cos I've had a few drinks (it feels like looking up your exes profile on facebook, you know you want to have a look but you're not gonna like what you see!).

    I dunno how I feel. Very disconsolate, I really thought it was our year def worse than I've felt after other years. I thought we would come out at half time and start running at them, we did it sporadically but didnt do it enough. I thought we had the running game, tactician, players to beat that team. The last time I've felt like this was after the semi in 19.




    But the good thing is that the last time.i felt like this was in 19. I thought this team was gone in 2019. But theyre back and better since then. We are still in at least the top 5 counties in the country and dublin and Kerry thankfully arent as good as they've been made out to me. I was also talking to some people from another county tonight who wonder how we can be producing team after team after team. We will be back, that team owes us nothing. We will more than likely be playing again in august, let's look forward to it and hope aidan orme and darren McHale get into the s&c over the winter!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    What a crushing defeat.


    Yet more shattered dreams.


    Wonderful support.


    The pain and anguish etched on supporters faces post match was so very sad.


    Yet another funeral procession.


    Too many players underperformed to a significant degree.We appeared leggy and flatfooted in comparison to Tyrone.The last thing I would have expected.


    My worst fears came to fruition re our ability to break down the Tyrone defence.Our forward line totally malfunctioned.


    Cillian O Connor absence as a focal point and score getter was unquantifiable.


    Our old failings in a lack of depth of quality forward play came back to haunt us.Contrast same with Tyrone's ability to shoot the lights out on the first half.


    The decision to start Aidan O Shea backfired.


    The closeness of previous losses against that great Dublin team lead me to believe there wasn't a psychological barrier to our inability to close out finals...


    Maybe I'm reading too much into it.


    Tyrone were so deserving of their win.From once they got in front they totally controlled the contest.


    It's simply soul destroying.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    4 points from play from the front 8 including subs. Never going to win an All Ireland with those stats. Clifford got that on his own including two marks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Fair play to Tyrone - worthy winners and hats off to their fans too, all of whom I found to be very gracious in victory. Some other counties’ fans could learn a lot from them on how to behave themselves.

    On the game itself - that was a very disappointing performance but you’d have to give credit to Tyrone for how they defended and managed their opposing players.

    Leeroy once again outstanding for us, as was Stephen Coen. Other than those 2 with perhaps the odd exception, there was little to cheer in terms of performance.

    We created a number of chances but just didn’t convert them and that was pretty much the story of the day.

    As Seligehgit mentioned the absence of Cillian is unquantifiable. Don’t know if he would have been able to close the 5 point difference, but that’s by the by now.

    Yesterday was Tyrones day and I wish them well and may they enjoy their celebrations, they Certainly deserve it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Euphoriasean


    Absolutely devastating defeat to lose that, as bad as walk out of Croke Park that I can remember. Wish I was turning the car West last night with the rest of the crew but instead had the sole journey down the M7. Its one where never really got going. Credit to Tyrone, they executed their game plan to a tee and had the forwards to finish off their chances. Even saying that, if we had taken the big chances when they came we would have been in with a shout. Lost the one on one battles all over the field all day and still have the same frailties under the high ball at the back. It was infuriating that McShane was just on the pitch and that happened, surely we knew that was coming.

    Fair play to ROD he tried all bloody day,was the only real focal point in attack. Still done a couple of silly things and missed the penalty but can't really fault him. Leeroy was excellent too.

    As other have said Cillian was hugely missed, having him there to win primary ball and link the play cant be understated. Feel for O'Shea will get dogs abuse after another poor display but in reality I don't know where he fits in anymore. He's not a full forward and that has to stop now and he doesn't appear to have the legs in midfield to match the top teams.

    A lot is being said of Horan too. I find it hard to buy 100% into that, who was he suppose to spring from the bench to fix 10+ players individually underperforming. We can talk about systems but some of the individual displays and mistakes just can't be accounted for. He was the Messiah after the Dublin game and is now back to being under prepared and tactically inept. For me he's unearthed another championship contending team out of nowhere, not sure who else could have done that in that timescale.

    Any congrats to Tyrone they were certainly worthy winners. The Mayo support there yesterday was phenomenal, all pure mad passionate lunatics. We'll go again as we always do and we'll have another bite at the cherry in the not too distant future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭Good loser


    With 8/10 minutes to go there was a sideline shot of Horan and his main assistant ( not McDonald). It seemed to me the assistant was furious and Horan was refusing to budge on the issue. Probably AOS move - anyway it was too late then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Hard luck to Mayo, Tyrone the better team. Unfortunately Mayo still making the same mistakes over and over again in finals, poor decision making, bad wides and indiscipline. Tyrone played with much more composure. Ye are as far away as ever from winning an All Ireland, Kerry & Dublin likely to be stronger next season and Tyrone will still be there, hard to see this Mayo team win an All Ireland at this stage, too many wounds from losing finals now. Yesterday was a golden opportunity they let pass them by, unlikely to get a better chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭Gael85


    I think the selector was James Burke. Plays his club football with Ballymun. Played for Mayo in 2011.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Great post.

    Leeroy,Paddy,Stephen Coen,Ryan O Donoghue and Tommy Conroy tried manfully to stem the tide.

    I honestly don't know what James Horan is supposed to do when we are shipping so much water all over the park and your forward line is malfunctioning to such a degree.

    Although taking off Aidan early appeared to be an obvious switch.

    We tried the patient,oft times slow lateral buildup which has failed us so often against Tyrone.We did'nt mix it up with quick direct ball enough.Unfortunately the lads appeared to be like rabbits caught in the headlights with their reluctance to take a shot on from distance.

    High ball frailties came back to haunt us yet again.Goalkeeping error.

    It's a really tough place for the players.

    The only bit of perspective I can offer is with Cillian's loss we'd pretty much written off a Connacht title nevermind an All Ireland title but TBH such an excuse may be a tad hollow and perhaps is part of the problem.You grab an All Ireland when it's there in front of you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Crybabygeeks


    All the pundits and podcasts in the run up suggested the loss of cillian would be too big and... It was. That said however, if the team had stepped up and performed like we know they can, I still think they could have beaten that Tyrone team yesterday. But they didn't. So here we are.

    Walking out of croke park in 2019 after that 15 min massacre by Dublin, I would never have thought that we'd be AI final in 2020 and 2021. So with that... this team is good, can only get better hopefully.

    Maigh Eo Abu!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Poor performance in the game. Oshea wasnt as bad as people are making out though. He was actually marginally better than many of his team mates, who arent getting any mention. Too much made of him truth be told. He didnt play well, neither did the tyrone captain by the way. People should try to be a bit more objective about him.

    We were very poor, but saying that, tyrone couldnt put us away either. We were limping along for 50 minutes and still in the game. I feel oconnor was a seismic loss for this game, and if we had him and barrett, we could well have stolen it. Not sure why Harrison wasnt introduced to mark McCurry. I feel the line was poor throughout



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Vish81


    You've got to be kidding me.

    Not sure what game you were watching. .lazy opinion.

    Fans at Croke park yesterday weren't the fans that showed up for the Connacht championship in howling wind and rain.

    Crowd was quite , and heard more moans than and wilful support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Fiyatoe


    As a Tyrone man I had great craic on the way in on the train yesterday from Maynooth with Mayo fans. Great spirit.

    Never felt as sorry for a team after a big game in my life, I know the condolences are no good to you but you are up there as the best supporters in Ireland. Created a fantastic atmosphere in croke park yesterday. There was no gloating (from what I seen) and there was real acknowledgment of Mayo’s hurt after the final whistle. A lot of tears shed on both sides!


    you will be back, don’t forget Tyrone were similar before they won their first win 18 years ago, always the bridesmaid.


    fantastic supporters, if we could play teams with the same class and pride as Mayo GAA would be an even better organization.


    needless to say we don’t miss Kerry or Dublin supporters, different kettle of fish altogether !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    The most disappointing loss since 2006. At least in the finals against Dublin they performed but were up against the all time greats.

    Even in 2012 against Donegal although it was disappointing I don't think anyone expected us to get to the final that year and it was peak Jim McGuiness. Despite the loss there was a lot to be optimistic for.

    Yesterday was just flat with so many players just not playing well. I felt beforehand it was our best chance in years to win it.

    I know we dismiss the scars of the past but we have a mental frailty when it comes to finals. It swings both ways where Mayo don't believe they're capable of winning and the opposition are boosted because it's us they're playing and then believe they're not capable of losing.

    I honestly don't think there is any county in the top ten or fifteen who wouldn't fancy their chances playing a Mayo team in the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Don't know what to say. It was a very winnable game. But we were brain dead from the off.

    Tyrone managed the game well a d deserved to win.

    Midfield were appalling. Did they catch a ball all day?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Tough one to take, genuinely thought it was finally going to be our year. Now to deal with this raging hangover...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,219 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    What a load of **** shite.

    Why on earth can't Mayo teams just for once in a final go out and play the game of their lives.

    Look at Tyrone, dominated mid field when that's where they were supposed to be weak, Cathal McShane touted as a "super sub" comes on and as advertised delivers big time. Defend in numbers but then break with speed.

    We never get that from Mayo when the chips are down on All Ireland final day.

    Great comebacks and hard luck losses like in 2016 and 2017 just can't paper over the cracks that they just can't deliver when it's required.

    This was terrible.

    The one chance we had in recent years in a final that did not contain a really strong opponent and they fail to take advantage.

    It's utterly depressing.

    So many under par performances out there.

    Credit to Tyrone they knew how to win the game, but let's be honest they are no world beaters.

    I've said before here that this was an opportunity because it wasn't Dublin or Kerry in their pomp, and that if they didn't take it there was no place to hide. Well there is no place to hide now.

    Days like that only give the clown from Derry fuel to his fire.

    I really think it could be the end of the line for Aiden O'Shea as a starter.

    All he offered yesterday was that he made it a bit messy up front and freed up a bit of space in the second quarter.

    If that's the best you can get out of him on All Ireland final day then it's really time to reevaluate.

    I know it's an intangible but if Cillian was playing things may have been different.

    If you remember the little debate between Cora and Spillane during the Leitrim game Spillane scoffed at Cora's suggestion that Mayo would win the All Ireland, but his reasoning may have been correct, he said they would not win because they did not have Cillian.

    But hey, there is always next year.

    Cillian will be there, these guys are still young etc, but they really need to learn from this, they really need to build a mindset that you do not leave it behind on the big day, that coming out as the losers is not an option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭lillielad


    Heartbreak yet again for you guys, as James Horan said it's disappointing but no way fatal, you guys will be back you always are. Cillian was a massive loss as Mayo's scoring dried up a small bit and the ball inside broke down far too much. Tyrone got on top in midfield as well which was a surprise and bet the Mayo press easy at times. This is a very young team and has massive potential. The majority of counties in Ireland would love to be on the journey you guys have been on lads over the last 10 years so keep embracing it lads. Final point is Lee Keegan is an absolute warrior. Enjoy the club championship and it won't be long until the green and red are playing again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Don't think I'll be buying the papers today. Had been hopeful of hitting the pub in celebration around this time. Sport can be cruel.



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