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New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,929 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    They should probably stop behaving and voting in a backward and xenophobic manner, if they want people to stop thinking of them as backward and xenophobic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,945 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    Think that nails it on the head for me as to how I see GB News -

    They have presenters and people on being interviewed, being paid to express backward and xenophobic views, for the benefit of an audience who see themselves as victims of the kind of stories that GB News is trying to wind people up about.

    I dunno if it’s still a segment on the channel but that whole “Woke Watch” thing was an example of just pure stupidity, and what audience interaction I’ve seen amounts to viewers calling in to give their opinions with names like Mike Hunt and Mike Oxlong 😂

    Just pure amateurish nonsense, none of it actually feels authentic or genuinely held opinions. They appear to be literally just doing it for the money, and even then for a few the money isn’t enough to keep them from jumping ship, if they’re not being fired for expressing an opinion which isn’t intended to be divisive, like the ‘threat’ of what they call ‘cancel culture’.

    It makes sense only in regard to it being an outlet for juvenile sneering funded by other people’s money. As long as they can keep fuelling the outrage machine to cover their costs, they don’t need to generate revenue from advertising, they can just use Patreon like every other wind-up merchant on YouTube.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,920 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    418 viewers on YouTube won't be making them much revenue 😁


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,775 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Flicked by it last night to see a replay of Dan Wooton covering the Northern Irish protocol. Wootons position was that the big bad EU are out to punish the UK for holding them to the terms of a deal they literally signed up to. But of course he didnt mention anything about Boris saying it was oven ready and a great deal, that got completely swept under the carpet. Instead he said the protocol they signed up to has to go and then he advocated that the border comes out of the Irish sea and onto land between the north and Ireland. The guy is literally clueless, he is like the audio visual version of 'The Sun says.....'



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep the type of audience that don't understand the difference between the word paedophile and pediatrician, or state that someone doing charity work must be like a paedophile



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Unfortunately that type of woeful ignorance is exactly what their viewers want to hear and lap up. That is what GB News, if it survives will only apply to a certain cross section of society that need their own ignorant views and beliefs pandered to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,929 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Mark Dolan was on expressing similar sentiments. "The EU seem happy to restart the troubles in Northern Ireland".

    It would almost be funny if it wasn't so abjcectly ignorant.

    Knowing Dolan's past work, I can't help thinking he's going to turn around some day and admit his whole participation was satire. On the other hand, perhaps beggars simply can't be choosers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,968 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,796 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Not really. A survey says it might make people more likely to watch but why not look at the much more accurate figures of who is actually watching



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This has already been debunked.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Very interesting that you can't show actually increases in viewers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    There is no such thing as bad publicity. Those moaning and complaining are doing all the advertising they need for free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭Morgans


    The interesting bit is

    "A survey of 1,000 people found that 29 per cent were more likely to watch GB News following the boycott, compared to 14 per cent who said they were less likely to tune in."

    So, 57% of people couldn't care less one way or the other, or do not know what GB News is.



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Except that it does not appear to be the case going by either the linked article or the actual viewing figures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Now behaving is one thing - but VOTING! Hard to take complaints about the UK's fptp system seriously when you don't respect the way people vote in the first place!



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's anti-democratic rhetoric - subscribe to the accepted view or be tainted with xenophobia, racism, bigotry, Nazism, and transphobia.

    This is Orwell's 1984 made flesh. You can think, but only if you think the right way.



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope people get tainted with those terms due to their words and actions.

    Well done on misunderstanding 1984 it's a common theme with the likes of the channels intended audience, same as insisting that the Nazis were socialists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,945 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    Invoking 1984 to describe the phenomenon of a minuscule, tiny number of people expressing a different view to what in your opinion are views held by the majority of people in society?

    You’re having a laugh, surely?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,929 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Again, if they want not to be tainted with such accusations, they should stop talking and behaving like xenophobes, racists, bigots and transphobes. The term Nazi is redundant.

    It's not rhetoric if a person can contradict their words and their deeds with facts, examples, data and citations.

    It's my democratic right to work to silence and frustrate those that would stamp on democratic rights. Is that so hard for you to distinguish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Ohh, a 1984 comparison! Now that's an idea I hadn't considered. It's kind of an interesting parallel too!

    I guess it covers the whole of Brexit / MAGA mentality and the media that hangs off it, but I guess you could almost compare the likes of GB News & Fox News etc as "The Ministry of Truth". Then you have things like:

    The Hour of Hate - (Where in you get a selected enemy to scream at for a while)

    "Eastasia is our ally" (Brexit Means Brexit, Oven Ready Deal, Great deal for Britian)

    "Eastasia is our enemy, and always has been" (The Deal is the EU's fault, and is terrible)



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It really isn't. Conservatives aren't some sort of upper caste who are above criticism, no matter how desperately they wish they were.

    Odd that you're invoking 1984 while you so desperately shill for a channel which has literally sacked people for thoughtcrime.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ahh yes but FPtP is completely democratic and respects how people vote..... only 1 government elected by the majority of the people in almost 100 years.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That journalist breached the ethos of the channel and made an overtly political gesture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,027 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    What part of the ethos of the channel did he breach (considering he ran it past producers etc before doing it and was told it'd be fine) and why does someone supporting the gesture of kneeling (by kneeling himself) count as an overtly political gesture whereas Farage outright saying he would never kneel not count as an equally overt political gesture? (considering there is no gesture for not kneeling in those circumstances other than claiming he would not kneel).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    "breached the ethos of the channel" makes it sound like a cult. Either believe the same things as us or you will be fired. And this from the same people who complain about cancel culture.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You answered your own question.

    That journalist performed an overtly political gesture. Nigel Farage claimed that he would never make an overtly political gesture.

    Therefore, one is in accordance with the ethos and the other was clearly in breach.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The ethos being that it's a safe space. We know.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If Krishnan Guru-Murthy did the same thing, he'd rightly be reprimanded by Channel 4, too.

    If Huw Edwards of the BBC suddenly dropped off his seat to his knee in the middle of the BBC News at 10, he'd rightly be reprimanded, too.

    GB News is being consistent with the above. This is not the same as being cancelled; this is a question of professional integrity.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Except those are actual news channels. GB News is more of a cult propaganda network that's a generation late.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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