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Digging a grave

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Lineing the grave with green mats or moss, is their to cover up any discrepancies in the walls, and also to take away from the cold look of a stoney or channelly side walls.

    Presume by 'shoring', you mean propping the sides..., this is done regardless of hand digging or mini digger, if there is a question mark of the stability of the sides to keep up. Don't want the sides to fall, and the coffin comeing around the corner.

    A tasty man on a digger can scrape to the top of the last coffin easily, but if not sure then it's easy to do last few inches by hand.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,019 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    These days though a coffin + body would hang around for a lot longer than 15 years, no?

    I assume when people here talk about finding previous remains they mean bones from long ago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭minerleague


    yes and graves better marked with headstones, a lot of areas under pressure for new graveyards as a result. Bones found would be gathered up and re- buried at corner of grave and a cross of two sticks over them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭rule supreme


    I used to dig graves , did it for a few years . A fresh grave here was always 9 ft , and sometimes was as hard as the road . You would earn your money those days .



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As good a place as any to ask, on rip.ie I see some deaths with "(tragically)" included. What's the specific meaning there?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Deceased was in an accident or took their own life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    still a strong tradition in my area.

    Ive dug several over the years,a really nice tradition.

    Neighbours and friends of the deceased would do the digging along cousins/nephews.


    Afaik it's dig to 8ft and that will mean fitting 6 into a plot of needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    What I have seen done is gently put the crowbar down, and you'd distinctly hear it when it taps upon the coffin lid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,373 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    As long as you don't hear it tapping back. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭148multi


    In the case of my grandfather's grave, it was a wet plot so the casket was preserved, not sure how long for the corpse but I believe could be twice as long as a dry grave. The grave was lined to catch people's eye and hide from view the unpleasant view of the previous burial in a waterlogged grave. We use local flora and it is very much appreciated, at times it is viewed as being of a significant sign. On one occasion the may flowers were used as a crown around a grave while unbeknownst to us the song that accompanied the coffin from the church was flower of the May, it changed the tone completely when the family arrived to say their last goodbye.

    Another funeral where the grave of decesed's husband next door partly collapsed, we basically had to shutter the grave and get the coffin in with respect but quickly.

    In the case of perhaps a childhood tragedy line the sides with mesh wire and Place local flowers, a little effort has alot of effect on the mourners.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Yeah, chicken wire used here to line the sides, and there are a few places where lots of moss grows on a hedge bank , the owner is usually asked if they mind the diggers taking a few bags of it.

    Its easy to weave it into the chicken wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    We get a buck of galvanised nails and push into the sides, the sections of fog. A lot of tight holes, and rock that can affect the chances of the chicken wire staying up, and getting caught with a coffin handle and pulling all with it going down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,373 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Heard here locally fom one guy that uses high tensile wire bent back to produce long staples. These pushed into the sides to hold the branches of laurel or whatever..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,648 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Daughter's lcvp teacher buried today. So young and so much life left to live. The school did a guard of honour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭Grueller


    At the funeral here today of a guy I worked with a few years back. 45 years old, got seriously ill in March and has been in a coma ever since. He passed on Friday. Really made me appreciate my health and is possibly the first time I have been acutely aware of my own mortality. Really, really sad funeral.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭farmersfriend


    My mother passed away in March, neighbours told us they were looking after the grave for us, they dug it and had it beautifully lined. It's seen as a mark of respect. That's in North tipp, meant a lot to my 87 Yr old father, and all the family, that people cared.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,400 ✭✭✭tanko


    Have helped to dig graves for neighbours over the years, it’s dying out tho, most are dug with a mini digger now. Cremations becoming more popular too. We always line the grave with moss.

    The only drink i’ve had in the last two years was in the graveyard, probably the wrong thing to say but always plenty of laughs and slagging digging a grave, you wouldn’t want to be easily offended anyway. Events from decades ago get brought up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Same as that here and dare I say, I actually enjoy them (provided there’s not too many rocks!!)

    and even though you could have 30-40 there it’s always the same 5 or 6 that actually dig.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭148multi


    The slagging is only to take the corners off you, those fellas would be the first to help if you were stuck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Still big in east clare as patsy said earlier. The 'bigger' the funeral the more lads you'd have digging so that half of them who turned up wouldn't actually have to do anything at all - and there's always a few that'll turn up just to be seen too but won't do a tap.


    Different ways of filling in after too - in some places there's nothing done bar a handful of earth thrown in by the family till everyone goes wheras in a lot of places everyone takes a turn throwing in a few shovels. Some places then will use straw/hay on top of the coffin before the earth goes in. The grave diggers always get well fed and watered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭BrianBoru00


    My understanding is the tragically is in an accident whereas "unexpectedly" is normally used for a suicide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭Jb1989




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭BnB


    I'd agree. Still very strong in my parish here in East Clare. If anything, I think it's actually getting stronger.

    Having unfortunately being on the other side of it a few times over the last few years, it's actually hard to put into words how much comfort you take from the fact that so many people would take time out of there busy lives to remember your loved one. To go over to the digging of a grave and see 40 or 50 lads who have silage to make/software to sell/whatever they do - standing around in the middle of the day digging the grave and having a chat about your loved one and life in general is really heart warming. The same for all the guys and girls that direct traffic/make sandwiches/setup lights etc etc. It's such a great comfort to know that so many people genuinely care and are there for you.

    It's all part of the process of dealing with death and supporting a grieving family that I think we do very well in Ireland.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Yeah, big thing in Clare alright and has been for a long time, good way for men to grieve in my opinion as they get to talk to each out about the person who passed and what they meant to them, the tea/soup/sandwiches/whiskey/beer would be some of the nicest you'd ever have. Big tradition is that you can't bring the whiskey bottle out of the grave yard, there's even a special part of the wall to break it off, at 1 burial we forgot to drink the whiskey, when we arrived back the whiskey bottle was found in the back of the car, we all had to leg it back to neck the whiskey in case we got in trouble.



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