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New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    What side of the political spectrum would you place identity politics? as in LGBT, BLM and the likes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,122 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Tbf though surely you can see farage doesn't actually hold any political views. He is probably the original grand master grifter. He got onto EU gig not to make any political change just to get money and expenses this can be clearly demonstrated by his voting practices and is fleeting appearances preferring to spend his European time frequenting bars with other like minded grifters. Your admiration should be just because he's doing it longer. You should get him to do a cameo video for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,122 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Genuinely you've no clue how YouTube works.


    And secondly how many people have up and left sticks of a sinking ship. More can actually mean replacement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,386 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    So you think the TV Channel is successful because of Youtube figures.


    Do you not see how bonkers that "logic" is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,986 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Again, Youtube subscribers/views do not translate equally over to viewers of their actual channel, and while the new schedule and addition of Farage will see a bump in their ratings for a week or two, unless they start substantially and consistently increasing viewer numbers to their actual channel, it's not going to be sustainable.

    Why you keep focusing on their YouTube numbers is beyond me. It means incredibly little in the long run as to the viability of GB News as a whole. And even then, the numbers of new subscribers really isn't that huge either. Even taking the numbers you posted of 2000 in 24 hours, thats 1million new subscribers in 500 days. Almost a year and a half if it continued at that rate. That's pretty abysmal tbh for a nationwide "news" channel with already-established personalities such as Neil and Farage.



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  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Folks here give the impression that 350 people watch the channel per week, all of whom are over the age of 70.

    In its first month, GB News attracted almost 4 million viewers (as reported by BARB) - with a third of those viewers being under the age of 30 years.

    Far too much hyperbole here about how they are "failing to attract viewers".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭noelfirl




  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You cannot selectively quote a time of day and generalize about the progress of the channel.

    Better to take a holistic approach over the past month's performance.

    According to BARB (the Broadcasters Audience Research Board is an organisation that compiles audience measurement and television ratings in the UK):

    • 3.7 million tuned into GB News over the first month - compared to 4.6m for Sky Sports, 8.4m for Sky News, and 12.6m for BBC News.
    • In the first 5-weeks, GB News' YouTube channel saw 9.9 million views and 601,000 hours worth of content viewed with 138.4 million impressions.
    • GB News recorded 39.6 million views on Twitter; 240.7 million Tweet impressions (7.8 million each day, on average).
    • On Facebook, GB News had 8.6 million video views with a reach of 9.4 million and 4.3 million engagements.
    • Third of GB News viewers are under the age of 35 years. 29pc between 35 and 54 years; and 39% over the age of 55 years.

    This idea that GB News is only holding a handful of views each day is beyond parody at this stage.

    That seems very bright indeed for a first month's performance. Yes, it could be higher - and perhaps GB News had greater ambitions, but what they have secured is quite substantial.

    These are the facts as provided by BARB - not biased personal commentary or misrepresentations from dishonest tabloid publications.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭noelfirl



    Who said it was a generalisation? It was a quote, noting that Farage, so called saviour ("watch out BBC!", said one particular tabloid), lost 30% of his audience in 3 days.

    Sorry you don't like that.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What an absurd conclusion.

    Did you seriously believe his first night was going to start from the lowest viewing figure, and then rise upward in the days thereafter?

    Christ...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭noelfirl



    Ah, Farage going down is a good thing. Got it.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You have clearly never studied the rules of logic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,986 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    You can't complain about hyperbole right after saying "Folks here give the impression that 350 people watch the channel per week, all of whom are over the age of 70." - That's pure hyperbole.

    New channel attracts viewers in their first month. Of course they did. There is a definite audience for what they do, an audience of all ages.

    The question is, is that audience enough to sustain them? Will that audience grow enough to sustain them? There was a huge build-up before launch, and in their first month the actual views to most of the programming has been dropping, and in some cases has been statistically zero.

    Sky News, BBC etc are beating it in the ratings, but even then they are small parts of larger networks and can be sustained by them. GB News isn't. They need far greater numbers to stay sustainable. Again, they'll see a bump after taking on Farage and changing the schedule, but the majority of people who want to watch GB News are likely already watching GB News. If people are watching their content on twitter, youtube etc, that's actually pretty damaging, because they need those people watching on the channel instead as they'll make most of their money with ad views.

    Their viewer numbers need to substantially increase in the next few months for the channel to be viable. Their views in their second and third months will tell a far more important story than their first (when their launch will obviously have gotten them more attention and people checking them out).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭noelfirl


    To rephrase slightly:

    Farage failing to hold and sustain the initial high level audience he achieved on day 1 of his show is OK.

    By the way, as you're so firmly on top of the data - your long post above, can you point us to the primary data source(s)? I wasn't aware that BARB collected any data on youtube views, tweets or facebook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,652 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Farage the former City of London banker who rails against the City of London elites.

    Farage who wants the EU immigrants out except his EU wife

    Farage who repeatedly said the UK could have a deal like Norway then called anyone who suggested it a traitor post Brexit

    Farage who promised multiple Brexit votes if he lost and called anyone who suggested it after he won a traitor.

    Mr consistent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,652 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Farage is one of them though whether you are too blinded by hero worship to see it or not



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Very inaccurate.

    Farage isn't against the City of London, but is against global corporatism and the unfair advantage it yields.

    Farage has never said he wants "EU migrants out". Rather, he has stated that the UK should control immigration numbers and the quantity/quality of people who arrive throughout the world, and not to have an open door - without any checks - to southern and eastern Europe. Is he only permitted to have an English wife? Some of the stuff I see on this thread is laughable.

    Farage didn't say that he desired a Norway-type deal. He emphasized a bespoke UK-deal, which may have similarities with Norway. The point he was emphasizing was that Norway yielded more autonomy over certain aspects of their economy / bureaucracy.

    Farage said that, if he were to lose the referendum, it wouldn't be the end of the matter. Yet the same people arguing against Farage are the same ones who kept banging on about having another referendum to reverse the results of the 2016 plebiscite.

    Your facts are distorted and, in many cases, outright falsities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,916 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You again with your statement that the company would be closed before the end of the year.

    You failed to put your money where your mouth is along with all the others who were offered the same bet.

    GBNews has taken the place of Trump living rent free in yere heads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,652 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He has repeatedly said the UK will get a Norway + deal which would mean being in the EEA

    He repeatedly bangs on about the London elite and vested interest and all this nonsense despite him being up to his eyes in it. Lives in Chelsea and schooled in the ultra elite Dulwich college.

    And yes he threatened to keep campaigning for Brexit if it lost which in his words would have been against the will of the people.

    I'm pretty sure no one on here believes you anyway when you talk about falsities. And the fact you point out that its "southern and eastern" Europeans are the problem only reinforces for me that Brexit was about racism for many. The idea of good and bad immigrants that I heard so much of in London when told it's ok that I could steal the jobs but Italians and Polish were not welcome



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I really think you're overestimating how much time it's in our heads.... It's a channel which has a small viewer base and no influence.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,916 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    For me GB "news" is akin to reruns of friends or top gear, sometimes I'll be flicking through the channels and see it's there and think to myself "ah sure this is always good for a few giggles"


    Nothing more nothing less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Since you are so keen to champion the interactions for GB News on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, can you do the same for BBC News, Sky etc. so that it is a fair comparison?

    How many impressions did some of these news outlets have in the same 5 week period? Otherwise, 39.6 million views on Twitter is fairly meaningless without a similar comparison.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I gave the BARB TV viewer comparison ratings over the same period:

    • 3.7 million tuned into GB News over the first month - compared to 4.6m for Sky Sports, 8.4m for Sky News, and 12.6m for BBC News.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    You have to laugh at GB News viewers and their love of cancel culture, with presenter Guto Harri being fired and silenced for daring to take a knee in support of England's players receiving tonnes of racial abuse after the Euro's final.



    Broadcaster Guto Harri has quit GB News after he was suspended for taking the knee during a discussion about racism towards England's black footballers.

    Harri confirmed his decision to leave the new channel to BBC Wales on Sunday.

    Last week, GB News apologised after the TV journalist made the gesture, which it said breached its standards.

    On Friday, incoming presenter and former Ukip leader Nigel Farage said he "will not be taking the knee for anyone" on his new show.

    In his resignation letter, seen by the BBC, Harri asked the organisation to "please explain how that [Farage's stance] does not breach editorial standards but I did".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    That is not what I asked for. You are championing GB News based on social media interaction and views. Can you please provide the same numbers for other news outlets over the same period?

    Otherwise the figures for YouTube, Twitter and Facebook are without comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭noelfirl



    Glad to see you have noticed that BARB has nothing to do with tweets, Youtube or Facebook video views. Perhaps next time before you decide to give a soapbox lecture on taking an holistic approach you can holistically review your own approach to collating and synthesising data summaries.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The statistics above are representative of how GB News has performed both in terms of TV viewers and social media.

    If you never watched GB News and read this thread, you'd probably believe that GB News secures 300-500 visitors a day.

    When you review the stats above, including 4 million TV viewer reach in its FIRST 28-days, you begin to develop a very different impression indeed; one uncontaminated by bias, hysteria, hyperbole, or antagonistic tabloid misrepresentation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,986 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    According to Socialblade, Youtube video views over past 30 days:

    GB News = 7.8m

    Sky News = 34.78m

    BBC News = 47.28m


    New Twitter followers over past 30 days:

    GB News = 16.7k

    Sky News = 43.2k

    BBC News = 100.5k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,986 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    And how many of those 4m stayed watching the channel? Some of their programmes are barely getting 1% of that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    When you actually include social media figures for other news sources like Penn has kindly provided, you begin to see that the views for GB News when taken in context are not all that you make them out to be. That is what happens when you look at things with an impression uncontaminated by bias, hysteria and hyperbole.



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