New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

ohnonotgmail · 28-06-2021 01:54PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Paw patrol smashing them on there as well :pac:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCSVSJ1OCSv5ClFgKFTHIDew

Paw Patrol has high production values.

Seathrun66 · 28-06-2021 01:55PM

eskimohunt wrote: »

They've amassed over 300,000 on Twitter and their YouTube is growing exceptionally well, now with 145,000 subscribers - often with viewing figures greater than other channels, such as GMB.

It's not as grim as you are painting out.

Delete this post while you have a chance. When the station shuts down in a few weeks you won't want it up here.

hots · 28-06-2021 01:58PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Woksters? Rockstar chefs specialising in Asian cuisine?

And they're likely as unbothered about GB News as the rest of the planet.

The left handed ones are particularly rare, righty-woksters are ten a penny

iwasliedto · 28-06-2021 02:11PM

i wonder will this thing last the summer or be consigned to the dustbin. These setups are money
thirsty and I can see it folding inside a few months as the investors will realise that it's a bad idea to throw good money after bad.

Mic 1972 · 28-06-2021 02:14PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Woksters? Rockstar chefs specialising in Asian cuisine?

And they're likely as unbothered about GB News as the rest of the planet.

not as unbothered as the ones in here apparently

pjohnson · 28-06-2021 02:15PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

not as unbothered as the ones in here apparently

You really dont seem to understand most of the words you are using (or trying to use)

Mic 1972 · 28-06-2021 02:19PM

pjohnson wrote: »

You really dont seem to understand most of the words you are using (or trying to use)

beside the personal attacks, i can understand 15 pages of posts from people who apparently aren't bothered by GB news

Seathrun66 · 28-06-2021 02:19PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

not as unbothered as the ones in here apparently

I'm definitely bothered. And interested. This has been one of the feelgood stories of the Summer thus far.

Acosta · 28-06-2021 02:20PM

I assume Andrew Neil is finished with the BBC now and won't be going back?

28-06-2021 02:24PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

beside the personal attacks, i can understand 15 pages of posts from people who apparently aren't bothered by GB news

I think it's more enjoying the disaster that it's turning out to be. Haven't seen anyone particularly annoyed by it. Most annoyed people appear to people unimpressed by it being treated as a laughing stock.

Muahahaha · 28-06-2021 02:25PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Fair enough but it's nothing more than conjecture. I'm not seeing it, frankly.

Im just surprised Piers hasnt gone for it as GB News would be a perfect fit for him. Maybe there is bad blood between himself and Andrew Neil over something years ago, perhaps the Iraq war and those fake photos he published. But like him or loathe him Piers has a loyal audience, its hard to argue with GMBs viewerships figures collapsing from 1.6m down to 700k after Piers had walked out. If GB News did somehow recruit him and they put him in that 8pm slot vacated by Andrew Neil Ive no doubt he would create enough controversy to get hundreds of thousands tuning in every night. When he was at GMB many viewers were saying they cant stand him but they were still tuning in to see what he said, its part of what makes him successful.

Yes. In different countries with different regulatory structures which predate the internet. He already had a foothold with Sky News and he ended up selling that so buying a smaller channel makes no sense for him.

Well as said before GB News established themselves Rupert already had plans for his own channel News UK, he had the go ahead from Ofcom. They were even going to call the flagship program Gotcha! after the famous Sun headline and he was lining up both Piers Morgan and Alan Sugar as presenters

Rupert Murdoch’s forthcoming opinionated television news channel will be called News UK TV, with media regulator Ofcom giving the go-ahead for the outlet to start broadcasting as soon as it is ready.
News UK TV is racing against the rival Andrew Neil-backed channel GB News to be first on air, with both groups aiming to launch next spring. Despite concerns about the impact of Fox News-style broadcasting, both outlets believe there is a gap in the market for right-leaning television news channels aimed at Britons who dislike the BBC’s output.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/dec/01/rupert-murdochs-news-uk-tv-channel-given-approval-to-launch

It is a space he is interested in and were GB News to become available at a bargain price he will consider it imo, its right up his street and alot of the heavy lifting like getting a broadcasting license and establishing studio space has already been done

L1011 · 28-06-2021 02:27PM

NewsUK have since announced that they aren't going to do a broadcast channel

L1011 · 28-06-2021 02:30PM

eskimohunt wrote: »

They've amassed over 300,000 on Twitter and their YouTube is growing exceptionally well, now with 145,000 subscribers - often with viewing figures greater than other channels, such as GMB.

It's not as grim as you are painting out.

Except you don't make money from Youtube (145k subs might pay the salary of the video editor, if they can even monetise it) or Twitter, and advertising sales will be based entirely on the BARB ratings. Can't do sponsorship on current affairs content.

Penn · 28-06-2021 02:32PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Im just surprised Piers hasnt gone for it as GB News would be a perfect fit for him. Maybe there is bad blood between himself and Andrew Neil over something years ago, perhaps the Iraq war and those fake photos he published. But like him or loathe him Piers has a loyal audience, its hard to argue with GMBs viewerships figures collapsing from 1.6m down to 700k after Piers had walked out. If GB News did somehow recruit him and they put him in that 8pm slot vacated by Andrew Neil Ive no doubt he would create enough controversy to get hundreds of thousands tuning in every night. When he was at GMB many viewers were saying they cant stand him but they were still tuning in to see what he said, its part of what makes him successful.

Morgan, more than anything, wants attention. He may get a truckload of money from GB News, and might bump their ratings up a fair chunk, but he's not going to get the attention he wants. Ratings still won't be anywhere comparable to what he was getting on Good Morning Britain, the level of guests they'll get still won't be comparable or as newsworthy (eg. Twitter shares etc), and the ratings of the channel as a whole will still likely be so low that if it fails it tarnishes Morgan's popularity.

Piers Morgan wants a safe bet. He wants the attention. He'd be treated as a star on GB News, but he's not going to get the attention he craves.

ancapailldorcha · 28-06-2021 02:34PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Im just surprised Piers hasnt gone for it as GB News would be a perfect fit for him. Maybe there is bad blood between himself and Andrew Neil over something years ago, perhaps the Iraq war and those fake photos he published. But like him or loathe him Piers has a loyal audience, its hard to argue with GMBs viewerships figures collapsing from 1.6m down to 700k after Piers had walked out. If GB News did somehow recruit him and they put him in that 8pm slot vacated by Andrew Neil Ive no doubt he would create enough controversy to get hundreds of thousands tuning in every night. When he was at GMB many viewers were saying they cant stand him but they were still tuning in to see what he said, its part of what makes him successful.

Same here actually. He had a tantrum on GMB and walked off. That'd never be on at GB News.

I still disagree with the controversy thing. Like, it's one thing to have a banal breakfast show with some spicy rants but another entirely when your programme is based entirely on the latter.

Muahahaha wrote: »

Well as said before GB News established themselves Rupert already had plans for his own channel News UK, he had the go ahead from Ofcom. They were even going to call the flagship program Gotcha! after the famous Sun headline and he was lining up both Piers Morgan and Alan Sugar as presenters

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/dec/01/rupert-murdochs-news-uk-tv-channel-given-approval-to-launch

It is a space he is interested in and were GB News to become available at a bargain price he will consider it imo, its right up his street and alot of the heavy lifting like getting a broadcasting license and establishing studio space has already been done

It hasn't really established itself. It's basically been forgotten about since it launched by the looks of the viewing figures.

TV News just doesn't make money. It's a dying medium. Were I Murdoch, I'd be hiring a few big names for a new social media site or maybe a Youtube channel. He'd have the capital for it unlike Parler and it'd be a heck of a lot cheaper than the various highly skilled staff needed for a television station.

Larbre34 · 28-06-2021 02:34PM

People who show their fallujah online for 4 quid a month have more than 300,000 followers on twitter, does that mean they should reserve a channel on the Sky platform?

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-06-2021 02:36PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

beside the personal attacks, i can understand 15 pages of posts from people who apparently aren't bothered by GB news

You are mixing up "bothered" with bemused.

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-06-2021 02:40PM

Acosta wrote: »

I assume Andrew Neil is finished with the BBC now and won't be going back?

Which is why I would be surprised if Morgan joing GBnews, if he ties his flag to this mast and the ship sinks then his career would be definitely over, he is pretty much already persona non grata after his hissy fit on GMB but if he were to go to BGnews and fail then that would be it for him.

Mic 1972 · 28-06-2021 02:40PM

L1011 wrote: »

Except you don't make money from Youtube (145k subs might pay the salary of the video editor, if they can even monetise it) or Twitter, and advertising sales will be based entirely on the BARB ratings. Can't do sponsorship on current affairs content.

The YT channel has been active for 1 month only and it's still growing, I didn't even know about it until 2 days ago when I came across this thread.
It may eventually amount to nothing or it may become a success , it's too early to know now.
One thing for sure, anti-mainstream channels are popping up on YT all the time and they all seem to be growing. Demand is there

28-06-2021 02:48PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

The YT channel has been active for 1 month only and it's still growing, I didn't even know about it until 2 days ago when I came across this thread.
It may eventually amount to nothing or it may become a success , it's too early to know now.
One thing for sure, anti-mainstream channels are popping up on YT all the time and they all seem to be growing. Demand is there

I wish them the very best with their YouTube channel. Should they shutdown the channel though?

ancapailldorcha · 28-06-2021 02:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I wish them the very best with their YouTube channel. Should they shutdown the channel though?

The channel argument really makes no sense to me. Youtube is unregulated and anyone can set up a channel. Running one costs nothing next to a television station. I don't know why they didn't opt for a premium channel to being with.

Joe_ Public · 28-06-2021 02:52PM

For all people here are talking about "leftie" folk being panicked and outraged, it actually seems to me that this is the one thing the channel has demonstrably failed to do. Most of the pick up has been bemused mirth at the so called "teething issues". For GB News to succeed, I think one thing it has to achieve is provoke sufficient reaction to its output that the lefty media outlets feel compelled to cover it in suitably outraged terms, thus giving them the satisfaction of dictating the agenda. I see no evidence of this happening yet, even to a tiny degree, and likely to see them edge into ever more extreme territory as this continues. Else you're just left with the echo chamber, fine as far as it goes, but not really achieving a lot for £60m or whatever.

Muahahaha · 28-06-2021 02:59PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Same here actually. He had a tantrum on GMB and walked off. That'd never be on at GB News.

I still disagree with the controversy thing. Like, it's one thing to have a banal breakfast show with some spicy rants but another entirely when your programme is based entirely on the latter.

Ultimately it was about him refusing to apologise for saying he didnt believe Meghan when she claimed she was suicidal. Had it happened on GB News Id say the editors would have let him away with that while basking in the increased viewership numbers from his manufactured controversy

Viewers in this space love conflict and Piers is such a good wind up merchant that he provides lots of it. If they did manage to recruit him and he went in that 8pm-9pm slot Ive no doubt he would build a sizable audience far above the 31k viewers that Andrew Neils final show got last Thursday. But for some reason he doesnt seem to want the gig which in a way is surprising as he would fit it like a glove.

They do now need some kind of heavy hitter to at least lend the channel an air of credibility after Andrew Neil deserted them. Without one I cant see them turning those low viewer numbers around. If Piers wont do it then its hard to see who else there is though Id say Farage is also being considered if he wants it. Part of their editorial line is selling the idea that Brexit is great and Farage would definitely tick that box.

ancapailldorcha · 28-06-2021 03:01PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Ultimately it was about him refusing to apologise for saying he didnt believe Meghan when she claimed she was suicidal. Had it happened on GB News Id say the editors would have let him away with that while basking in the increased viewership numbers from his manufactured controversy

Viewers in this space love conflict and Piers is such a good wind up merchant that he provides lots of it. If they did manage to recruit him and he went in that 8pm-9pm slot Ive no doubt he would build a sizable audience far above the 31k viewers that Andrew Neils final show got last Thursday. But for some reason he doesnt seem to want the gig which in a way is surprising as he would fit it like a glove.

They do now need some kind of heavy hitter to at least lend the channel an air of credibility after Andrew Neil deserted them. Without one I cant see them turning those low viewer numbers around. If Piers wont do it then its hard to see who else there is though Id say Farage is also being considered if he wants it. Part of their editorial line is selling the idea that Brexit is great and Farage would definitely tick that box.

I just don't see GMB's viewers heading en masse to GB News for this reason. Conflict requires conflicting viewpoints whereas GB News is effectively a trolling operation masquerading as a news channel.

Mic 1972 · 28-06-2021 03:02PM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

For all people here are talking about "leftie" folk being panicked and outraged, it actually seems to me that this is the one thing the channel has demonstrably failed to do. Most of the pick up has been bemused mirth at the so called "teething issues". For GB News to succeed, I think one thing it has to achieve is provoke sufficient reaction to its output that the lefty media outlets feel compelled to cover it in suitably outraged terms, thus giving them the satisfaction of dictating the agenda. I see no evidence of this happening yet, even to a tiny degree, and likely to see them edge into ever more extreme territory as this continues. Else you're just left with the echo chamber, fine as far as it goes, but not really achieving a lot for £60m or whatever.

Left/Mainstream media was never going to give them any attention and it's unlikely that GB News was expecting otherwise.

Nonetheless GB News is being talked about an awful lot by those who allegedly don't care about it, as seen on this thread. That's word of mouth.

I didn't know about GB News, now I do and I subscribed.

ohnonotgmail · 28-06-2021 03:11PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Left/Mainstream media was never going to give them any attention and it's unlikely that GB News was expecting otherwise.

Nonetheless GB News is being talked about an awful lot by those who allegedly don't care about it, as seen on this thread. That's word of mouth.

I didn't know about GB News, now I do and I subscribed.

word of bad mouth more like. and you subscribed to the YT channel. Big Whoop. their YT will not give them a return on the £60M investment.

Mic 1972 · 28-06-2021 03:16PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

word of bad mouth more like. and you subscribed to the YT channel. Big Whoop. their YT will not give them a return on the £60M investment.

but it still triggered your need to make a smart comment about it.
I'd say they are doing a good job ;-)

ohnonotgmail · 28-06-2021 03:18PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

but it still triggered your need to make a smart comment about it.
I'd say they are doing a good job ;-)

triggered? jeez, try to keep up to date. You'll be calling me a snowflake next.

Joe_ Public · 28-06-2021 03:19PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Left/Mainstream media was never going to give them any attention and it's unlikely that GB News was expecting otherwise.

Nonetheless GB News is being talked about an awful lot by those who allegedly don't care about it, as seen on this thread. That's word of mouth.

I didn't know about GB News, now I do and I subscribed.

I disagree. For £60m, and whatever else to come, I think you've got to be aiming higher than just having a fireside chat with your mates and getting a few stories into the next days Express. You expect to drive agendas and if you're not breaking stories, as gb news has no apparent intention of doing, then it becomes difficult to do that. I fail to see the point of spending so extravagantly just to preach to your base, Neil can do that for free on Twitter every day.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 28-06-2021 03:21PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

but it still triggered your need to make a smart comment about it.
I'd say they are doing a good job ;-)

Hmm.... you don't like the negative attitude towards your pet news channel and have to belittle other people to defend it...

You sure you aren't the one being triggered here...?

New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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