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Room to Improve (v2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Bannon is a real sickener

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    Budgey, missed it. +1 for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,396 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Loved the sunken garden in the house in Kildare, great space for get togethers particularly in Covid era.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,396 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Last place, €28k for a room to listen to records, I don't know, then again it's a nice secluded spot, they are a retired couple and don't need a home office so more power to them. It could easily be quickly modified in to a home bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Last place, €28k for a room to listen to records, I don't know, then again it's a nice secluded spot, they are a retired couple and don't need a home office so more power to them. It could easily be quickly modified in to a home bar.
    I saw that and thought that was a rip off. They even forgot to point the speakers to the listener (Forming a triangle) which is fairly basic stuff


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,817 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Could do with a few more slow mo shots of Dermot looking in awe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    How much did the Polish cabin in the private woods cost, you would be fairly sickened looking at it tonight considering the housing crisis going on.

    Most of them were fine but that one seemed very outlandish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,587 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I'd take the Polish cabin any day over the concrete house!

    I thought it was fabulous.

    And what's the housing crisis got to do with a couple building a cabin on their own land :confused: You'll be on about hospital beds next :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Didn't like the concrete house, didnt feel very homely to me but each to their own.

    I mean more the whole show of considerable wealth that went into it. Dermot has got himself into trouble before for being tone deaf when it comes to some of the stuff he has on his show compared to the backdrop of whats going on in society.

    Its a nice flex to be able to spot a cabin you like abroad, have it imported so fast and put it in your own woodland. All because you need to get away from the wife and kids.

    Doing some research on it, hes had it for about 12 years. Up for sale at the moment if anyone wants to buy it with the house and land for 825K dropped 75K from two years ago.

    https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/sleepy-hollow-thornfield-lisnagry-limerick/4497621


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Radio5


    Did they have any parking space with the Drumcondra house?
    What part of the country was the guy with his own beach and the beach house?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,587 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Radio5 wrote: »
    Did they have any parking space with the Drumcondra house?


    I don't think they said, but I can't imagine that they do.


    What part of the country was the guy with his own beach and the beach house?


    Ardee, Co. Louth


    Most of the buildings featured (bar the beach hut this week) have been built years ago, so the points about clashing with the current housing crisis are moot - not that they would have anything to do with it at any time.



    If people want to build a folly/mancave/musicroom/whatever for themselves, then off with them. If they see value in it, then it's good value!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Addle


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    I'd take the Polish cabin any day over the concrete house!

    I thought it was fabulous.

    And what's the housing crisis got to do with a couple building a cabin on their own land :confused: You'll be on about hospital beds next :rolleyes:
    I loved the kitchen and the laundry room in the concrete house, and the privacy shutters.
    But the kids were playing on the beds and not the floors, which I thought was telling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,587 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Addle wrote: »
    I loved the kitchen and the laundry room in the concrete house, and the privacy shutters.
    But the kids were playing on the beds and not the floors, which I thought was telling.
    Didn't notice the kids playing on the beds - but I did notice that the "master bedroom" on the ground floor was only separated by a 4/5-height partition, and I think the upstairs rooms looked fairly open plan as well (from the brief glimpse we got of them) - might suit their lifestyle, but I like to be able to close a door behind me!

    I agree that the laundry room looked fantastic - fresh air, appliances up on a shelf, loads of storage - but using it as the kids' wardrobes? Not so sure about that! I'd say that'll go by the wayside as they get older....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Calhoun wrote: »
    Didn't like the concrete house, didnt feel very homely to me but each to their own.

    I mean more the whole show of considerable wealth that went into it. Dermot has got himself into trouble before for being tone deaf when it comes to some of the stuff he has on his show compared to the backdrop of whats going on in society.

    Its a nice flex to be able to spot a cabin you like abroad, have it imported so fast and put it in your own woodland. All because you need to get away from the wife and kids.

    Doing some research on it, hes had it for about 12 years. Up for sale at the moment if anyone wants to buy it with the house and land for 825K dropped 75K from two years ago.

    https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/sleepy-hollow-thornfield-lisnagry-limerick/4497621

    Where was the wealth gone into the log cabin? He said he saw one in Poland and wanted one himself. The impression I got was that it was one of those flat pack kit cabins where all the pieces are pre cut and its just a matter of assembling it on a site. You can import these from Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, etc and they are pretty cheap. Bannon asked him the price and it was something like 10k which I thought very reasonable, at least compared to the couple from last week who spent 28k on a music listening room which was far far smaller than the log cabin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Where was the wealth gone into the log cabin? He said he saw one in Poland and wanted one himself. The impression I got was that it was one of those flat pack kit cabins where all the pieces are pre cut and its just a matter of assembling it on a site. You can import these from Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, etc and they are pretty cheap. Bannon asked him the price and it was something like 10k which I thought very reasonable, at least compared to the couple from last week who spent 28k on a music listening room which was far far smaller than the log cabin

    I missed that bit on price , I'll have to rewatch. 10K seems very low considering where it's coming from and how it's outfitted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah pretty sure he said 10k, I remember thinking it was pretty cheap. The outfitting of it would have been on top of that, Bannon was just asking him how much it cost to buy and transport from Poland. They are flat pack anyway so transportation costs wouldnt be all that bad and these log cabin companies in eastern Europe are used to shipping them to other countries.

    Here is one that is similar enough to the one shown last night

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    https://log-homes-sale.com/wooden-log-homes-cabins-projects

    Price list shows if you want it in turn key condition with plumbing, electrics installed, floors, doors, windows, then decorated and painted its $450 per sqm, so about 10k in euro for a 25sqm cabin. If you just want the basic structure and DIY the rest yourself then it is about half that price.

    There are companies here in Ireland selling cabins like the above. But all they are doing is importing them from companies like the above and then selling them for 20k+. Theres big savings by going direct to the source like the man last night did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Thats not bad for 10K its a nice looking cabin compared to some of the things you see.

    Compare it to the likes of the room last week and its a bargain. I do wonder though if the cost of the hi-fi system in the place lastweek accounted for the cost being so high.

    Its an interesting mix bag of properties, some at a budget some where they are spending quite allot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,216 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Handy when the owners are a designer and an architect like two of the homes last night, the concrete house is hideous, no idea how it's a thing these days. Calling it "small spaces" is a pretty silly title on last nights showing as both the homes on view were in fact, rather big. The tree house in donegal and the ozzie shack were the pick of the bunch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    The concrete house is something that could have been on grand designs, its something that is very Kevin McCloud.

    Id say it would have made an interesting episode as it seems like there was drama with the neighbors.




  • Jeepers I cannot convey how much I hate the concrete house

    Each to there own and all etc etc etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Yeah wasnt a fan of the concrete houses either. Design wise it was good in such a small site but looking at concrete celings, walls, floors and kitchen counter tops all the time wouldnt be for me.

    Has anyone figuered out exactly where it is? Think they said near Hanlons Corner somewhere. They said it was over looked by 26 gardens, I found that hard to believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    I think the concrete house was a bit of guilty pleasure from Dermot, it was an architects house through and through.

    The wall in the master bedroom was crazy "you can use the toilet and not disturb people in bed", dont think so.

    The foot print of it seemed to be quite large, thats why i was a bit confused as it went into an old factory site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭GAAcailin


    6bCoalLane.jpg

    Pretty sure this is it;
    I wouldn't fancy my girls walking up those lanes late at night coming home from college or a night out..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    ah cheers, thats it alright.

    I see what they mean now by being overlooked by loads of other houses.
    Its kind of a bizarre site to build on knowing you going to be overlooked by so many other properties. I know they did a lot with privacy screens and all that stuff but you are still looking at the privacy screens and know that they are there because the house is so overlooked. If I was living there Id always get the sense that you are kind of hiding in your own house, which I suppose with all the privacy screens is exactly what you are doing.

    Im sure they could have found a better site than that one that wouldnt have been so heavily overlooked. Its almost like the architect owner saw a challenge in that site and he wanted to take it on for his own ego.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    I do like the sustainability behind it and reusing old footprints for newer housing.

    I would say the site was picked as a combination of cost, i dont know Dublin area but i assume that another place would have cost more. Additionally then i wonder if it was also picked as a project something the planners would watch with interest and might not have got it built otherwise.

    More than likely im over thinking it but there is a certain grandness with it that you would see planners in grand design approving as a proof of concept, its almost like they are reclaiming the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Yeah they are all fair points and I agree its good that they re-purposed what was an old disused industrial unit and made it into a house. And yeah the council would be interested in such projects because they know well these disused units will never get used as industrial again so the council planners are happy to get rid of an eyesore and let it go to housing instead.

    I just think though if that was their objective then they could have found better sites than that one which was over looked by so many other houses. Im thinking back to that episode of Room to Improve where a young couple converted an industrial warehouse in Dun Laoighire into a home. It was in a great location close to the town, wasnt overlooked and they ended up with a roof garden and superb view to the local church spire and out to the Irish sea.

    There are actually a good amount of industrial units around Dubln that have lied empty and unused for years. If converting one was of interest then you could find one in better sites that arent as overlooked by 20+ other houses and arent down a narrow alleyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Yeah they are all fair points and I agree its good that they re-purposed what was an old disused industrial unit and made it into a house. And yeah the council would be interested in such projects because they know well these disused units will never get used as industrial again so the council planners are happy to get rid of an eyesore and let it go to housing instead.

    I just think though if that was their objective then they could have found better sites than that one which was over looked by so many other houses. Im thinking back to that episode of Room to Improve where a young couple converted an industrial warehouse in Dun Laoighire into a home. It was in a great location close to the town, wasnt overlooked and they ended up with a roof garden and superb view to the local church spire and out to the Irish sea.

    There are actually a good amount of industrial units around Dubln that have lied empty and unused for years. If converting one was of interest then you could find one in better sites that arent as overlooked by 20+ other houses and arent down a narrow alleyway.


    Could all be down to price for the site and the fact its surrounded by houses may have made it easier to get planning for a house on the site.
    I just found their choice of orange as the main colour everywhere inside the house horrendous. Just didn't do anything for the house and clashed with the concrete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭GAAcailin


    HI,
    this is the original property ad, can't find the details on the Property Price Register;
    Looks like the warehouse was for sale along with another property fronting onto Everton Avenue. Didn't think the couple bought the site back in 2014...

    https://www.myhome.ie/commercial/brochure/6a-6b-everton-avenue-north-circular-road-dublin-7/2954294


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Addle


    It’s a vast improvement on what was there anyways!
    If I was a neighbour, I’d rather see a single house built rather than the site left so run down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    Calhoun wrote: »
    its something that is very Kevin McCloud.

    he isnt an architect just fyi


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