Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

Scythica · 03-05-2021 10:14AM

So next year our NIQs are

Alby
Carter
Faddes
Nakarawa
Georgian prop

Alby may be moving on (guessing)

Carter long term injuries but could still be a good signing but never up to a Muller or Fardy level

Faddes is good enough but not too sure if he fits into our 23 anymore so somewhat a waste of a spot.

Nakarawa could be a great signing but currently phones it in for Weegees. Will wait and see.

Georgian prop I think just about starts for the As?!

Can we make a wishlist of signings please that start and end in the forwards? Wonder how much money it would take to sign Ardie Savea and PSDT.

bilston · 03-05-2021 10:21AM

Scythica wrote: »

So next year our NIQs are

Alby
Carter
Faddes
Nakarawa
Georgian prop

Alby may be moving on (guessing)

Carter long term injuries but could still be a good signing but never up to a Muller or Fardy level

Faddes is good enough but not too sure if he fits into our 23 anymore so somewhat a waste of a spot.

Nakarawa could be a great signing but currently phones it in for Weegees. Will wait and see.

Georgian prop I think just about starts for the As?!

Can we make a wishlist of signings please that start and end in the forwards? Wonder how much money it would take to sign Ardie Savea and PSDT.

Who is the Georgian prop?

Pretty sure both Matthewson and Faddes are gone at the end of the season?

I think Carter and Nakarawa are our only 2 NIQs next season. But happy to be corrected.

bilston · 03-05-2021 10:25AM

launish116 wrote: »

My biggest fear is us and our dire league are going to be ate alive by the South African franchises! Have you seen the blue Bulls signing?

I saw a post last week from sydthebeat who I believe watches a lot of SH rugby and he compared the Stormers to Ulster and Munster and the Bulls and Sharks to the likes of Glasgow and Edinburgh and the Lions to being better the weaker Welsh and Italian teams.

Now to be fair the Bulls have recruited well so may be stronger than that, but I think the point is we don't know really know how good they will be. Let's not forget a lot of the top Saffers play in England and France (even Munster).

They'll be very hard to beat in SA, but I'm not sure they will be as dominant as some fear.

In saying that the Dragons or Zebre playing away to the Stormers could be amusing

Scythica · 03-05-2021 01:15PM

bilston wrote: »

Who is the Georgian prop?

Pretty sure both Matthewson and Faddes are gone at the end of the season?

I think Carter and Nakarawa are our only 2 NIQs next season. But happy to be corrected.

Milasinovich which after googling turns out he's a saffa

BossMullet · 03-05-2021 01:15PM

Assume Georgian Prop = Gareth Milasinovich? He is Irish Qualified through his grandfather I believe.

Hey boy · 04-05-2021 05:39PM

BossMullet wrote: »

Assume Georgian Prop = Gareth Milasinovich? He is Irish Qualified through his grandfather I believe.

Has played a bit for the A's. Huge guy who doesn't really stand out for the A team unfortunately.

Lost Ormond · 04-05-2021 05:56PM

BossMullet wrote: »

Assume Georgian Prop = Gareth Milasinovich? He is Irish Qualified through his grandfather I believe.

He isnt Georgian. He is South African and his grandfather is from Ulster and played for the province.

Utah_Saint · 05-05-2021 09:18AM

soo....

can anyone be @rsed to post a team sheet for the fixture against Munster in the lv-036_800x.jpg?v=1567157008

awec · 05-05-2021 10:53AM

A team hopefully. I would like us to show this "competition" the disdain it deserves.

BossMullet · 05-05-2021 11:25AM

Would like to see something along the lines of:

1) Reid
2) Herring
3) O'Toole
4) Treadwell
5) O'Connor
6) McCann
7) Murphy
8) Timoney
9) Shanahan
10) Lowry
11) Lyttle
12) McCloskey
13) Hume
14) McIlroy
15) Addison

Given Shanahan will be our primary back-up 9 next season, might as well give him some game-time with Doak on bench perhaps. Would also like to see Tom Stewart be given his debut from the bench if he is fit again.

Utah_Saint · 05-05-2021 12:39PM

BossMullet wrote: »

Would like to see something along the lines of:

1) Reid
2) Herring
3) O'Toole
4) Treadwell
5) O'Connor
6) McCann
7) Murphy
8) Timoney
9) Shanahan
10) Lowry
11) Lyttle
12) McCloskey
13) Hume
14) McIlroy
15) Addison

Given Shanahan will be our primary back-up 9 next season, might as well give him some game-time with Doak on bench perhaps. Would also like to see Tom Stewart be given his debut from the bench if he is fit again.

Wonder would there be any chance for likes of Tom Stewart to get involved? Also like to see Finley or Doak at 9.

BossMullet · 05-05-2021 01:04PM

From what I have seen in the training videos released by Ulster, Stewart does appear to be training with the squad and by all accounts would have made this debut earlier this season had it not been for injury so would be surprised if he doesn't feature at all during the Rainbow cup.

Did think Doak looked more raw than I expected in his appearance against Munster earlier in the year, not sure if I would want him starting at this stage.

I would definitely like to see a lot of the academy guys get meaningful game time, just wary of the benefit of sending lambs to the slaughter ala our annual christmas jaunt down to the RDS. I imagine Munster will really be going for this competition so don't expect them to put out a weakened side.

Interestingly, the informed poster over at the other forum suggested Addison will be playing 13 with 'plenty' of academy guys featured over the rest of the rainbow cup.

Utah_Saint · 05-05-2021 01:16PM

Is Allison injured or just not likely to feature?

launish116 · 05-05-2021 01:19PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Is Allison injured or just not likely to feature?

Something I’ve been asking myself for the last year. Think some thought he had been given another year in academy.

launish116 · 06-05-2021 10:53AM

Ulster:
(15-9) Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle, Will Addison, Stuart McCloskey, Ethan McIlroy, Michael Lowry, Alby Mathewson;
(1-8) Andrew Warwick, John Andrew, Tom O’Toole, Alan O’Connor, Iain Henderson (Capt.), Jordi Murphy, Marcus Rea, David McCann.

Replacements: Rob Herring, Callum Reid, Marty Moore, Sam Carter, Nick Timoney, David Shanahan, Angus Curtis, James Hume.

Utah_Saint · 06-05-2021 10:55AM

launish116 wrote: »

Ulster:
(15-9) Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle, Will Addison, Stuart McCloskey, Ethan McIlroy, Michael Lowry, Alby Mathewson;
(1-8) Andrew Warwick, John Andrew, Tom O’Toole, Alan O’Connor, Iain Henderson (Capt.), Jordi Murphy, Marcus Rea, David McCann.

Replacements: Rob Herring, Callum Reid, Marty Moore, Sam Carter, Nick Timoney, David Shanahan, Angus Curtis, James Hume.

yeah seen that on the game thread. Disappointing tbh, No Doak, Finlay, Stewart, Allison or Sexton.

glad to see Rea jr and McCann though. but does Alby really need to play?!

Locke_Lamora · 06-05-2021 10:58AM

I don't really see it with Rea jr but i hope he proves me wrong. Probably needs to make use of this chance, games are hard to come by.

Glad to see Curtis back playing, he was good at u20 level but got injured so soon that we never really got an idea of where he's at with the seniors.

Prefer Addison at 15 coming into the line but im just happy he's on the field.

launish116 · 06-05-2021 12:15PM

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

I don't really see it with Rea jr but i hope he proves me wrong. Probably needs to make use of this chance, games are hard to come by.

Glad to see Curtis back playing, he was good at u20 level but got injured so soon that we never really got an idea of where he's at with the seniors.

Prefer Addison at 15 coming into the line but im just happy he's on the field.

Rea Jnr has a bit of dog, just needs some ballast. Seems more 6.5

awec · 06-05-2021 12:21PM

I suppose this selection is consistent with McFarland's recent approach to development interpro fixtures. Mix of experience and inexperience.

bilston · 06-05-2021 12:37PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

yeah seen that on the game thread. Disappointing tbh, No Doak, Finlay, Stewart, Allison or Sexton.

glad to see Rea jr and McCann though. but does Alby really need to play?!

I reckon you'll see those guys in the last three matches...whoever they are against

awec · 06-05-2021 12:50PM

bilston wrote: »

I reckon you'll see those guys in the last three matches...whoever they are against

Is there not just 1 more round?

bilston · 06-05-2021 12:56PM

awec wrote: »

Is there not just 1 more round?

Pretty sure there are three more matches to be announced, but feck knows with the way this season has been organised

Paul Smeenus · 06-05-2021 05:44PM

Looking forward to seeing MCann, ReaJea, Lowry at ten, Reid and Curtis play.

Congrats to big Iain. He's earned it, and I sincerely hope he comes back a Test lion.

launish116 · 06-05-2021 06:21PM

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing MCann, ReaJea, Lowry at ten, Reid and Curtis play.

Congrats to big Iain. He's earned it, and I sincerely hope he comes back a Test lion.

Really is a nice blend of experience and youth! Looking forward to it. Scrum half is the only real let down.

bilston · 06-05-2021 08:10PM

I said at the weekend I wanted to see Reid and McCann in the pack and Lowry at 10, so I can't really complain!

Good to see Curtis back.

Interesting that Addison and Stockdale are at 13 and 15. Addison might be able to create a bit of space for Stockdale, McIlroy and Lyttle.

Jump_In_Jack · 07-05-2021 09:02AM

bilston wrote: »

I said at the weekend I wanted to see Reid and McCann in the pack and Lowry at 10, so I can't really complain!

Good to see Curtis back.

Interesting that Addison and Stockdale are at 13 and 15. Addison might be able to create a bit of space for Stockdale, McIlroy and Lyttle.

I was really impressed with Addison (barring one mistake kicking out on the full after bringing the ball back in his 22) his injection of pace before passing always seemed to create a bit of excitement.
13 will probably be a good place for him to influence the game the most.

I’m a big fan of Lowry at 10 also, and often wonder if he would switch inside to 9 as he could be a phenomenal scrum half as well, electric footwork and he punches above his weight in defence.

salmocab · 07-05-2021 03:17PM

awec wrote: »

Is there not just 1 more round?

No but it’s a big secret, was meant to be against 2 other pro+ teams and one saffer team. Now it will just be 3 random pro+ teams.

awec · 07-05-2021 03:25PM

salmocab wrote: »

No but it’s a big secret, was meant to be against 2 other pro+ teams and one saffer team. Now it will just be 3 random pro+ teams.

The league must realise how bad this looks at this point. It's so amateurish looking, literally making it up as they go along.

Playing this tournament has been a huge mistake.

Zeugnis · 07-05-2021 05:18PM

How is Cooney doing after last week's misfortune?

Locke_Lamora · 07-05-2021 09:29PM

Post-mortem:

Pack was dreadful as per usual - very little pace or power and we struggle to win the breakdown area or come off the better side in tackles. We're toothless in attack post-coetzee so I hope the lot of us are praying to whatever god we believe in that Nakarawa is a different player on arrival. The young backrowers were passengers in that game, but I thought Reid went well enough coming on. Think he's ready for more minutes next year if his scrum holds up.

Backs were bad in defence as well, Addison going off made everything more difficult but McCloskey is too flat footed, bites in far too easily and doesn't have the pace to cover. Teams with better players than Munster will target him and force him to make decisions all game, if Stewart Moore becomes an average defender I'd love to see more of him. My god I just realised how much I miss Luke Marshall shooting out of the line heroically to save my night and McCloskey's reputation. I'm a believer in Lowry but he had a shocker. Not going to complain too much about Addison - it happens - I'll just say I'm glad to see he has a bit of bite about him still and leave it at that. Stockdale, my beautiful boy, a shining light on an otherwise depressing friday night. Well, he wasn't that good but he wasn't bad, which is positive. Sort of.

Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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