Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2020

MAULBROOK · 01-05-2021 11:50AM

Northumberland wrote: »

Check out another thread here under Renewable Energy - PV Feed in Tariff, and you will see a little more.

Smart meter best for PV set ups? Actually not at the moment, several power companies, I know Energia for one, actually offer a better deal - if you use most of your grid electricity at night, with just a Day/Night meter - and if you switch to a smart meter it appears that your night rate will increase substantially - counter-intuitive, but that is the way it looks at the moment.

I have also been contacting several power companies, but none so far claim to know anything about the Export Payments supposed to start in July - or if they say anything, it is - oh - ESB will handle all of that - contact them. Of course ESB knows nothing either. It would obviously make most sense if the same electricity provider chosen by a household for 'import' would also handle the 'export' and offset the export payments against the bill for imports. But that is clearly too logical. It does not work like that in England, you can choose a different power company to handle your 'export payments', and even if you choose the same power company, they set up an entirely parallel system.

My personal hunch is that FIT will not be ready by July2021. Its all to quite and no information. The following excuses will be COVID, BREXIT, EAMON RYAN and Tony Holohan ect ect

cubix · 01-05-2021 12:17PM

Thanks, is it still the case there is an install charge for a separate night meter, if so it may not not be viable and is there any other recurring charges.

MAULBROOK · 01-05-2021 12:39PM

cubix wrote: »

Thanks, is it still the case there is an install charge for a separate night meter, if so it may not not be viable and is there any other recurring charges.

I had an old meter that was spinning backwards in the early days of the solar install and it was changed out by ESB. No charge.

01-05-2021 01:01PM

cubix wrote: »

Thanks, is it still the case there is an install charge for a separate night meter, if so it may not not be viable and is there any other recurring charges.

Got mine swapped out last year for a day/night meter. No charge

01-05-2021 01:03PM

MAULBROOK wrote: »

My personal hunch is that FIT will not be ready by July2021. Its all to quite and no information. The following excuses will be COVID, BREXIT, EAMON RYAN and Tony Holohan ect ect

I knowTony has a lot of power but I don't think he has anything to do with solar.

MAULBROOK · 01-05-2021 01:04PM

SouthWesterly wrote: »

I knowTony has a lot of power but I don't think he has anything to do with solar.

Sorry I was on a rant roll:D:D:D

MikeyJoyce · 02-05-2021 04:20PM

Just had my solar system installed last week

15 x 360W Longi Panels
6kW Solis inverter
Eddi Diverter with Harvi
Online Monitoring

€6,437 after €1,800 grant

Its been great so far with the good weather.
But I noticed I have an old analogue meter and its spinning backwards when exporting and the meter reading number is going down.

Is this normal?

MAULBROOK · 02-05-2021 04:36PM

MikeyJoyce wrote: »

Just had my solar system installed last week

15 x 360W Longi Panels
6kW Solis inverter
Eddi Diverter with Harvi
Online Monitoring

€6,437 after €1,800 grant

Its been great so far with the good weather.
But I noticed I have an old analogue meter and its spinning backwards when exporting and the meter reading number is going down.

Is this normal?

You lucky basxard, had the same thing happen, I managed to wind the meter backwards by a months amount of power. esb came out and changed it to digital.
Its not a problem for you, its a problem for ESB networks. hold them off for as long as you can. Use COVID BREXIT anything as reason to delay them changing it.
The longer you hold them off the bigger the credit will be on your bill.

Boscoirl · 02-05-2021 06:06PM

MikeyJoyce wrote: »

Just had my solar system installed last week

15 x 360W Longi Panels
6kW Solis inverter
Eddi Diverter with Harvi
Online Monitoring

€6,437 after €1,800 grant

Its been great so far with the good weather.
But I noticed I have an old analogue meter and its spinning backwards when exporting and the meter reading number is going down.

Is this normal?

Mine does the same. It’s great.

Northumberland · 03-05-2021 08:46PM

Mickey, you will see this has been discussed in other parts of this same forum, search or check it out, one or two contributions under my name. You have what someone else on this wonderful Blog called a Soviet Style Meter, probably made in the former Yugoslavia. You are very lucky! you will get what someone else on the Blog called 'net metering', you will get the perfect deal, every kWh you export during the day will pay you back exactly one kWh during the night when there is no sun, what better could you want?. They are talking in the Dail about introducing a payment for export in July this year (see the separate thread here on this) , but no details yet, but it will probably be something like you will get one quarter of a kWh back for every kWh you export, and it is by no means certain it will happen this year, or next!.

So enjoy! - just hope that ESB do not discover your old meter and change it! - and try not to export more than you import so the final monthly reading for this month is not less than last month, or the electricity Bots will go galactic and start asking questions, and send ESB to install a new meter at your place! This meter spinning backwards was a very common thing among solar pane installers n England and Australia until about 5 or so years ago, and I am having exactly the same thing right now in a country where I keep a house, far away from Ireland. My electricity bill there went down from Euros 200 a month to Euros 10 per month after I installed my solar set up there, my only challenge is to keep trying to ensure that next months meter reading is greater than this months meter reading, by throttling back my solar generating system!

Patmwgs · 03-05-2021 08:50PM

Northumberland wrote: »

Mickey, you will see this has been discussed in other parts of this same forum, search or check it out, one or two contributions under my name. You have what someone else on this wonderful Blog called a Soviet Style Meter, probably made in the former Yugoslavia. You are very lucky! you will get what someone else on the Blog called 'net metering', you will get the perfect deal, every kWh you export during the day will pay you back exactly one kWh during the night when there is no sun, what better could you want?. They are talking in the Dail about introducing a payment for export in July this year (see the separate thread here on this) , but no details yet, but it will probably be something like you will get one quarter of a kWh back for every kWh you export, and it is by no means certain it will happen this year, or next!.

So enjoy! - just hope that ESB do not discover your old meter and change it! - and try not to export more than you import so the final monthly reading for this month is not less than last month, or the electricity Bots will go galactic and start asking questions, and send ESB to install a new meter at your place! This meter spinning backwards was a very common thing among solar pane installers n England and Australia until about 5 or so years ago, and I am having exactly the same thing right now in a country where I keep a house, far away from Ireland. My electricity bill there went down from Euros 200 a month to Euros 10 per month after I installed my solar set up there, my only challenge is to keep trying to ensure that next months meter reading is greater than this months meter reading, by throttling back my solar generating system!

And when the esb find out you will get a meter change quicker than the rest of us waiting for ours.

_dof_ · 03-05-2021 09:10PM

Patmwgs wrote: »

And when the esb find out you will get a meter change quicker than the rest of us waiting for ours.

They'll find out as soon as your installer submits the NC6 form to them. That'll trigger their special ops ninja section to identify you have an old electromechanical meter and contact you straight away to replace it with a digital meter and that would be the end of your happy times.

So use COVID as an excuse to prevent them replacing your meter, should get a few more (hopefully sunny) months of net metering. Then you could get a smart meter and avail of the probably pitiful feed in tariff.

slave1 · 03-05-2021 10:24PM

_dof_ wrote: »

They'll find out as soon as your installer submits the NC6 form to them. That'll trigger their special ops ninja section to identify you have an old electromechanical meter and contact you straight away to replace it with a digital meter and that would be the end of your happy times.

Rubbish, they have no idea who has these old meters

_dof_ · 03-05-2021 11:27PM

slave1 wrote: »

Rubbish, they have no idea who has these old meters

What makes you think that? The meters are ESBN property and they know who has what type of meters. I know for a fact that they contact people who have installed solar panels to arrange replacement of electromechanical meters.

slave1 · 04-05-2021 11:14AM

_dof_ wrote: »

What makes you think that? The meters are ESBN property and they know who has what type of meters. I know for a fact that they contact people who have installed solar panels to arrange replacement of electromechanical meters.

No way the ESB know what meter a house constructed in the 60's/70's has, do you think they kept or retained records that far back?
...and if they do make that call for replacement you simply decline, they have no right to replace your meter as found out with their Smart Meter tactics.

Oireachtais confirmation

tonybodhran · 04-05-2021 12:11PM

Hi could someone please pm me with their preferred installer and setup they were happy with, I can't find any links to any companies anywhere. Thanks in advance. Want to get an install before the summer if possible. Cheers.

KCross · 04-05-2021 12:42PM

slave1 wrote: »

No way the ESB know what meter a house constructed in the 60's/70's has, do you think they kept or retained records that far back?

Well, if you have a meter that dates back to the 60s and 70s you can be sure its not a digital meter and is likely spinning backwards.

If you have a digital meter they have a record of the meter serial number (its usually on your bill near your MPRN) so they can pinpoint exactly who have what meters.

When you submit your NC6 and they see you dont have a digitial meter its a simple deduction from there that you have an analog meter and it needs to be replaced.... whether they take the time to schedule that in or not is another matter, but they have the data to do it if they want to.

KCross · 04-05-2021 12:57PM

slave1 wrote: »

...and if they do make that call for replacement you simply decline, they have no right to replace your meter as found out with their Smart Meter tactics.

Oireachtais confirmation

You probably can delay it but ultimately they have the power to replace it on the basis that "its end of life". They'll get you eventually!

slave1 · 04-05-2021 01:04PM

It's all academic to me as I've a digital dual meter, the posts are there for those lucky enough to have the old "backwards" meter.
They could try "end of life" with me but as long as it's working then I'd politely refuse.
Anyhow, apols for going OT but see it as relevant for installs so folk are informed before they take a Smart Meter and lose net metering.

Caspero · 04-05-2021 02:01PM

On the topic of meters, anyone have a 3-phase system and PV?

If so did you need to have a special meter installed at the time your PV went live or is a standard 3-phase meter (which before the install was just used for import) OK as far as PV production is concerned?

Then moving to export...when export comes in I guess a new import/export meter will be required...anyone have one yet for 3-phase?

I inquired with ESB networks and they said there's no information on smart meters for 3-phase yet. I've been having difficulty getting in touch with someone to ask them the above.

MAULBROOK · 04-05-2021 03:53PM

tonybodhran wrote: »

Hi could someone please pm me with their preferred installer and setup they were happy with, I can't find any links to any companies anywhere. Thanks in advance. Want to get an install before the summer if possible. Cheers.

PM sent

con747 · 04-05-2021 03:58PM

MAULBROOK wrote: »

PM sent

If you could pm me as well please, not getting it done until next year but can get a head start looking into it. Thanks.

monkeycork · 05-05-2021 03:47PM

looking for an installer for Cork City if anyone would recommend please

v10 · 06-05-2021 09:29PM

I got a quote today for

10 X Monocrystalline Solar Panel 325w
1 X Solis 4G Series Inverter
Free Panel Monitoring and Surveillance System

€6,325.00 after €1800 grant

or €10446.00 for a 20 panel system after €1800 grant

20 Panel would provide approx 50% of my annual use apparently but roof will unlikely have space for much more than the 10 Panel system.

Based on other quotes I'm seeing here, this quote seems very expensive. What do you think ?

MAULBROOK · 06-05-2021 09:47PM

v10 wrote: »

I got a quote today for

10 X Monocrystalline Solar Panel 325w
1 X Solis 4G Series Inverter
Free Panel Monitoring and Surveillance System

€6,325.00 after €1800 grant

or €10446.00 for a 20 panel system after €1800 grant

20 Panel would provide approx 50% of my annual use apparently but roof will unlikely have space for much more than the 10 Panel system.

Based on other quotes I'm seeing here, this quote seems very expensive. What do you think ?

At least €1500 over priced and a "Free Panel Monitoring and Surveillance System" is an app, no more less its free normally.

Alkers · 06-05-2021 11:18PM

v10 wrote: »

I got a quote today for

10 X Monocrystalline Solar Panel 325w
1 X Solis 4G Series Inverter
Free Panel Monitoring and Surveillance System

€6,325.00 after €1800 grant

or €10446.00 for a 20 panel system after €1800 grant

20 Panel would provide approx 50% of my annual use apparently but roof will unlikely have space for much more than the 10 Panel system.

Based on other quotes I'm seeing here, this quote seems very expensive. What do you think ?

Nearly 2e per w installed with no battery or diverter, shocking price, at least double what it should be!

You can get 2.5kW array for 2400e after grant with some shopping around - 96c per w installed and that's a smaller system so the price per panel installed should work out higher. Tell them they are insanely uncompetitive and move on!

championc · 06-05-2021 11:26PM

Alkers wrote: »

Nearly 2e per w installed with no battery or diverter, shocking price, at least double what it should be!

You can get 2.5kW array for 2400e after grant with some shopping around - 96c per w installed and that's a smaller system so the price per panel installed should work out higher. Tell them they are insanely uncompetitive and move on!

Or even buy the solar as a service deal

v10 · 07-05-2021 12:51AM

Alkers wrote: »

Nearly 2e per w installed with no battery or diverter, shocking price, at least double what it should be!

You can get 2.5kW array for 2400e after grant with some shopping around - 96c per w installed and that's a smaller system so the price per panel installed should work out higher. Tell them they are insanely uncompetitive and move on!

Thanks, thought it was very high myself.

There's lots of quotes in this thread but not many suppliers mentioned (maybe it's not allowed?) .. can anyone suggest (even by PM) a supplier quoting reasonable prices ? Thanks.

v10 · 07-05-2021 12:53AM

championc wrote: »

Or even buy the solar as a service deal

Excuse my ignorance, what's solar as a service ?

championc · 07-05-2021 07:57AM

v10 wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, what's solar as a service ?

2400 for 7 panels, paid out as 20 per month over 10 years. You could buy it out early paying a lump sum and then add to the system

Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2020

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