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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #1082
    magicbastarder
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    worth sticking that up on twitter too maybe? with the acknowledgment that the council acted promptly?
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  • #1083
    magicbastarder
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    i had to deal with meath CC for a non-cycling related matter about 10 years ago, and it was an eye opener how explicit they were in a 'we're not going to do our job' reaction (related to illegal dumping of C&D waste)
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  • #1084
    magicbastarder
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    i was ringing on behalf of my then girlfriend (now wife) about C&D waste we found buried in her new build back garden. several tons of it, at a guess.
    the response was 'well, you've bought the house now so that negates the illegal dumping'.

    in hindsight, i reckon it was probably closer to 12 or 15 years ago.
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  • #1085
    magicbastarder
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    but you're on boards, where someone has probably also put up a picture of their dinner today...
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  • #1086
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭secman


    Heading up Old Bawn this morning a An Post van was parked on the left, with Hazard lights on, engine running, driver was speaking to a pedestrian on far side of the road. As I approached i looked over my right shoulder, all clear so proceeded to pass the van, as i was halfway up the van it began to pull out onto the road. I let out a few expletives whilst braking hard to avoid being hit by the van. Driver heard me and pulled back in again in front of me and stopped dead, had to brake hard again. With that driver hung out his window profusely apologising to me.
    About 20 min later going by Circle K near Templeogue college i was on the cycle lane , traffic on road was at a standstill, a van parked up on the green left of the cycle lane proceeded to pull out to into a half a car space in the traffic but had to stop diagonally across the cycle lane, he did this as i was about 10 feet away from his van. Had to brake hard as could not go around it with the traffic standstill to my right. I felt like "The invisible Man" for a while this morning. Don't get me talking about cycle lanes at roundabouts.... madness planning.
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  • #1087
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Seemingly a happy ending to a dangerous overtake (not my video)...

    https://twitter.com/leitheoircraosa/status/1382800482628988934
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  • #1088
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Went out for a spin this morning and this prat decided to overtake me on a narrow road coming towards a left hand bend with two oncoming cars approaching
    I left the sound on it so the horn of the onconimg car was audible but this meant my use of the F-word is also audible :(

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhERqxvTpCw
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  • #1089
    Seth Brundle
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    doughef wrote: »
    Are you not out in the middle of the road causing an obstruction?
    You're right - I'm not!
    If you look carefully, you'll see some white paint indicating the middle of the road.
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  • #1090
    Seth Brundle
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    doughef wrote: »
    But it was a narrow road- motorist was unable to pass safely with you so far out ?
    I was in the left lane. Where else shoukd I be?
    I have as much right to use the road as the dick from Re***kil. I am not hugging the side of the road as this is dangerous. I am following the recommendations from the Road Safety Authority on cycling safely.
    If the sick behind me cannot pass safely then even if I move slightly to my left, he still can't pass me safely. It's really not that hard to understand.
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  • #1091
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Jusr to add, i am 100% in the right. My road position is as per the rules of the road.
    The overtaking driver is 100% in the wrong for the following:
    * dangerously passing a vulnerable road user
    * overtaking on a solid white line
    * overtaking on the approach to a blind bend
    * overtaking while there is oncoming traffic


    Do you still think I'm in the wrong and if so please explain why?
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  • #1092
    Seth Brundle
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    2lazytogetup wrote: »
    To the video taker - you are in the right but looking at that road, it looks fairly dangerous to be cycling on. you sure you want to be exercising your right to cycle on it.
    Its a quiet country road which connects two villages (L2215 approaching Batterstown Co Meath from Kilcloon).
    Where should I cycle? Maybe I should have got off the bike and walked the few kms?
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  • #1093
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    doughef wrote: »
    The video gives a perspective of a cyclist too far out from the verge - making it unsafe for motorists to pass safely.
    I understand I wasn’t there and your emotionally involved.
    Sometimes emotions can get the better of us in dangerous situations

    Glad nobody was hurt
    It's nothing to do with emotion.
    There is a mistaken belief that cyclists should be way over to the left of the lane. This belief is not correct and in fact is dangerous as it only encourages drivers to take chances.
    The advice from the RSA is to cycle in the centre of the lane which is referred to as "Primary Position"
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  • #1094
    magicbastarder
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    doughef wrote: »
    But it was a narrow road- motorist was unable to pass safely with you so far out ?
    okay, i'll tackle this.
    you say it's a narrow road; let's say the lane is 3m wide each side. it's probably not that wide, but we'll run with it.

    Seth probably needs to cycle 50cm out from the verge for his own safety, and say Seth's shoulders are 50cm wide. we're at a metre.
    it looks like a 60km/h+ zone, and the official guidance for motorists is to give 1.5m clearance when passing cyclists. we're now at 2.5m.
    the car itself is 2m wide. we're now at 4.5m.

    so to perform a safe overtake, the motorist *has* to use up half the oncoming lane. if you expect Seth to cycle with his shoulder right up against the edge of the road (which is advised against), there's still not enough space for the motorist to overtake safely, so the motorist simply has to wait until there's no visible oncoming traffic on a stretch of road where visibility ensures he or she can complete the overtake successfully.

    and if the motorist has to use up half the oncoming lane, they are able to use it all. so Seth's positioning is now moot.
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  • #1095
    magicbastarder
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    VonLuck wrote: »
    Why is everyone feeding the troll :confused:
    if you think someone is a troll, report the post; the above sort of language is unhelpful.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #1096
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Yeah, with faux concern for cyclists and their actions that put them in danger like cycling on the road, overtaking other cyclists etc...

    @Seth, are you going to contact the company that own the van?
    I reached out via Twitter but honestly don't expect them to respond (it would be foolish of them really to say anything). I'll head up to my local Garda Stn later and do the usual nonsense that reporting a driver entails.
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  • #1097
    magicbastarder
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    i used to cycle that to get to work. i had a fan, a woman (driving on her own with an L plate) who blew at me on at least four occasions.
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  • #1098
    MojoMaker
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    Horrible road, horrible cycle track, and unfortunately quite an entitled and horrible neighbourhood.
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  • #1099
    magicbastarder
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    i reckon i had more 'interactions' with drivers on that road than i think on any other road i've cycled. including a couple of full on shouting matches which i should have had the sense to cycle away from.

    one i do remember fondly is a chap in an open top jag, who beeped at me repeatedly to get out of his way, so i played the innocent naif and stopped and asked him was everything alright? he gave me a very arch 'what is wrong with the cycle path, young man?' and seemed a little discombobulated when i burst out laughing and said 'everything. everything is wrong with that cycle path'.
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  • #1100
    magicbastarder
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    i did also once see what i reckon could have been a quite spectacular crash; i was headed in the same direction as the burgundy mondeo here, at a decent clip (40km/h at a guess), and a motorist overtook me and pulled back in far too quickly; i genuinely didn't know if he was trying to make the left hand turn, but he swerved *just* in time and at least one of his tyres clipped the kerb where that second cycle lane sign is. i reckon if his reaction times had been even a twentieth of a second slower, he'd have flipped the car at about 60km/h.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2764725,-6.1878957,3a,75y,205.89h,85.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s88rtY1vCq0e-wxLExA0t4A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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  • #1101
    magicbastarder
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Have any of you notice when driving cars or vans if you hang back and give the cyclists space, indicate and give them lots of room the driver behind you seems to do the same?
    it's quite simply follow the leader, and has its flipside. i.e. 'the guy in front of me thought it was safe to overtake so it's safe for me too'.
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  • #1102
    MojoMaker
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    Left hooked in the Phoenix Park last night. Twilight but I was lit up like a Christmas tree as usual (Strip Drive on high setting!).

    Coming from Furze road towards Chesterfield Ave and turning left at the small roundabout to head for Castleknock gate. Absolutely melon head in a black '07 non-M-series 520d decides to drop a gear and get to the little roundabout ahead of me - I'm about 50m back when he starts his move and I'm moving at a regular crisp pace. He had no idea was I going left or straight on and he got to the roundabout about 8-10m before me and swung hard left (no indication). I had to ditch to avoid a collision. Let a roar as I went down and he slammed on the brakes coming to a stop, but then took off again - obviously thinking "too much trouble". I didn't catch up with him at the lights but thankfully another motorist stopped to help.

    I'm fine, bike is ok save for scratched bar tape. Left knee knows something happened to it this morning, but otherwise - lucky out.

    Camera time I think

    :mad:
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  • #1103
    buffalo
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    Trekker09 wrote: »
    I actually said that to him! One of the guys that works for me knows him and apparently he was reported to the Guards a couple of months ago for reckless driving!

    Will he be getting a second report? I hope so!
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  • #1104
    Seth Brundle
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    doughef wrote: »
    DELETED POST
    You should head out on a bike sometime. You'd be surprised at how little it can take for a driver coming up behind a cyclist to become agressive. The cyclists presence sets them off.
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  • #1105
    Dowee
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    Took my 16 year old nephew out for a 50km spin today as he was raising money for charity by doing it. Was crossing the bridge near Blessington over the reservoir which is a slightly narrower than normal road.

    There was a group of cyclists coming the opposite direction and a car coming behind me. I figured there was enough time to let him pass before we met the other group so singled out. He passed through. I didnt realise there was another car behind him, he went through too, it was a little risky as we were pretty close to the group coming the other way now but worse was to come.

    Then as the other group of cyclists are passing us in the opposite direction a third vehicle, a van, pushes through so close to me I thumped the side of it. The other group all yelled at him too as he nearly went into them also.

    To top it off 100m later I caught up to him at the T junction (to turn right towards Lacken). Middle aged husband and wife, I expected confrontation as I know what hitting a vehicle tends to do to these people. But not a peep from him. I yelled at him asking why he couldn't have waited 5 seconds. But was just met with the blank straight ahead stare. I'm hoping that somewhere in the vast wasteland of his head he knew he shouldn't have done it as I've never had a vehicle thump not lead to a confrontation before.

    You try to be accommodating to drivers in situations like this but it often just leads to idiots pulling maneuvers like this. If I'd stayed two a breast it would have prevented it all.
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  • #1106
    hesker
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    ARX wrote: »
    Could leaning on the horn in this way be construed as assault?

    I’d be doubtful but I’m under the impression there is a law against improper use of a vehicle’s horn.
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  • #1107
    robinph
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    Not in that context as if you read the full sentence, they could argue that beeping a horn is not intended to cause injury (I don't agree) and they could argue they didn't know you would find it unacceptable (but they would be lying).
    On the same note, failure to leave appropriate distance between you and the vehicle in front (presuming they were not leaving enough distance as is often the case), driving without reasonable consideration, driver found to be driving carelessly. Fair amount of points and fines and a court appearance quite easily if the gardai were interested.

    A tap on the horn would be to warn someone of something. Leaning on the horn for the duration of driving close behind a vulnerable road user would be intimidation if nothing else.
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  • #1108
    MojoMaker
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    Ahead of a van at a red light, turning right, as they were also (although no indicator), got through and he drew level and then turned into me (left, immediately after the turn). I managed to swing into the turn and roar. He stopped and shrugged his shoulders and mouthed something. The peds at the lights and another white van man waiting to head the other way look shook, much like myself, they were probably convinced that an ambulance was about to be called. Absolute muppetry. There is not a hope in hell he didn't know I was there, ahead at the lights, ahead for most of the turn (except that is where he drew level with me), and at his front light as he turned. An absolute f*cker. What is wrong with people, even if what I had done was illegal or a provocation (it was neither), why would you do that.

    Individuals with loud voices, seen and heard in visible circumstances - media, opinion, news, social, tv, heck even boards, contribute to a feeling that it's ok to act this way, that cyclists are undeserving of care & attention because....hi-vis.....tax.....red lights......mutter.

    People like Mannix Flynn who get cycling-supported initiatives stopped help create the impression that cyclists are somehow a "nuisance", need to be challenged and brought to heel, or sometimes simply frightened, in order to cease their exasperating two-wheeled endeavours and leave the roads for the dominant traffic form - the private car.
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  • #1109
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Paging AJR...
    One in 10 motorists admit to texting while driving
    One in 10 motorists admit that they regularly text on their mobile phone while driving, according to a new survey from the Road Safety Authority (RSA).

    The survey found 9 per cent of motorists also admitted to talking on their handheld mobile phone while driving, or to regularly checking phone apps.

    The figures were taken from an online survey of 1,241 motorists, conducted in December 2020.

    The survey findings were published ahead of the upcoming May bank holiday weekend, with the RSA and An Garda Síochána warning motorists over dangerous behaviour.
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  • #1110
    Seth Brundle
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    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Every vehicle (except emergency ones) should block all mobile signals.
    I'd disagree - there are meaningful reasons for car occupants to need a mobile signal.
    We just need proper enforcement along with a fine that matches the consequences of the offence.
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  • #1111
    Seth Brundle
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    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Proper enforcement and fines won’t happen though.
    Oh I know but neither the RSA nor the government/Dept of Transport/Dept of Justice aren't really interested in improving road safety through simple methods such as enforcement, in my opinion!
    Post edited by CramCycle on


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