Where in Ireland can you see parts of Britain?

harmless · 21-04-2021 09:14AM

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Me to. Photoshop could be involved there.

Clearly it's at least two photos merged into one. The real question is, could he actually see the mountains like that from Howth with the right camera equipment?

biko · 21-04-2021 09:15AM

You can see West Britain from M50.

spurious · 21-04-2021 09:15AM

Not sure the Howth photo has not had some 'work'.

However, it is possible on occasional days to see Wales from Howth. I have seen it myself, but it looks nothing like that photo.

flended12 · 21-04-2021 09:16AM

Was skeptical of the howth wales pic as i fish there and never seen even a glimmer of it, however https://twitter.com/Sam_Greenwood_/status/1349438539616940033 appears to defunct the doubters. If its true, is superb!!

harmless · 21-04-2021 09:17AM

spurious wrote: »

Not sure the Howth photo has not had some 'work'.

However, it is possible on occasional days to see Wales from Howth. I have seen it myself, but it looks nothing like that photo.

Yup, no question about this. I've not seen it but have heard so many reports of it that I don't doubt it.
But all you see is this faint grey outline on the horizon, correct?

Mrcaramelchoc · 21-04-2021 09:22AM

flended12 wrote: »

Was skeptical of the howth wales pic as i fish there and never seen even a glimmer of it, however https://twitter.com/Sam_Greenwood_/status/1349438539616940033 appears to defunct the doubters. If its true, is superb!!

Ireland to Scotland at its nearest is 12 miles apart. How the hell could you see this good at 140km ?

retalivity · 21-04-2021 09:26AM

On a good day you can see the coast of Scotland from the top of Errigal in NW Donegal, 160km away

harmless · 21-04-2021 09:27AM

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Ireland to Scotland at its nearest is 12 miles apart. How the hell could you see this good at 140km ?

That would be a question for the photography forum.
I can't understand how it is possible while still having the houses in focus but I know very little about photography.

21-04-2021 09:28AM

Difitinitley can see Snowdonia from various parts of the Wicklow coast at certain times of the year it's something to do with light and atmosphere.

markmoto · 21-04-2021 09:28AM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I've heard that you can sometimes see Wales from the Wicklow mountains, but is there anywhere else?

How about seeing Scotland from Antrim?

is that because of Covid you can't go?

lawred2 · 21-04-2021 09:29AM

mzungu wrote: »

The picture below of Snowdon was taken at the Ben of Howth.

Link: https://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/article.cfm?id=134884&headline=Photographer%20snaps%20snow-topped%20Snowdon%20from%20across%20the%20Irish%20Sea&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2021

I'm sure that was a hoax...

markmoto · 21-04-2021 09:30AM

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Ireland to Scotland at its nearest is 12 miles apart. How the hell could you see this good at 140km ?

Perhaps drone? : )

Gregor Samsa · 21-04-2021 09:33AM

Snowdon from the Sugar Loaf

https://mountainviews.ie/summit/455/comment/19818/

harmless · 21-04-2021 09:38AM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Snowdon from the Sugar Loaf

That's much more like it and a realistic expectation of what you can expect to see on a good day.

Captain Havoc · 21-04-2021 09:48AM

Apparently you can see Wales from the top of mount Leinster.

Gregor Samsa · 21-04-2021 09:54AM

harmless wrote: »

That would be a question for the photography forum.
I can't understand how it is possible while still having the houses in focus but I know very little about photography.

Depth of field (the amount of foreground/background that is in focus in a picture is dependent on the lens aperture, focal length and the distance of the subjects. Having something a few feet away and 140km away in the same photo in focus isn't unusual at all with the correct settings and scene. There's loads of astrophotography with a foreground subject and stars thousands of lightyears away, and both in focus.

Random example:

harmless · 21-04-2021 11:05AM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Depth of field (the amount of foreground/background that is in focus in a picture is dependent on the lens aperture, focal length and the distance of the subjects. Having something a few feet away and 140km away in the same photo in focus isn't unusual at all with the correct settings and scene. There's loads of astrophotography with a foreground subject and stars thousands of lightyears away, and both in focus.

Random example:

Thanks for the explanation.
That photo uses image stacking doesn't it?
Could the same be done to get more detail of the mountains?

cj maxx · 21-04-2021 11:45AM

You see Scotland from the top of Sliabh Donard in the Mournes

Gregor Samsa · 21-04-2021 11:50AM

harmless wrote: »

Thanks for the explanation.
That photo uses image stacking doesn't it?
Could the same be done to get more detail of the mountains?

Stacking for astro is usually for noise reduction and maximising the amount of light captured, rather than focus.

However, there is a type of stacking called "focus stacking" that's used in macro and sometimes landscape photography to increase the depth of field.

The camera (Panasonic dmc-tz100) that the Howth guy used actually has a focus stacking feature built in, so yes, it's very possible he used it for the shot (assuming it's genuine). Good point.

loyatemu · 21-04-2021 04:28PM

you can often see the Welsh mountains from Bray head and hills along the east of Wicklow- on a good day they're very clear so I wouldn't rule out that Howth picture being genuine, with a good lens etc.

purplepanda · 21-04-2021 07:06PM

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Apparently you can see Wales from the top of mount Leinster.

You can clearly see The Blackstairs, Mount Leinster & some of the Wicklow mountains 10 miles out on the ferry from Fishguard. I've seen it enough times myself. :cool:

Quickly internet search reveals that you can see the same view from the Presili Hills in Pembrokeshire, and also the Mount Snowdon mountain range which is about the same distance around 83 miles / 134 Km.

There is an old pathway dating back to Neolithic Times in the Presili Hills which was on the traditional route to Ireland & later used by pilgrims.

https://www.visitpembrokeshire.com/articles/walking-on-the-golden-road

KevRossi · 21-04-2021 07:25PM

From the summit of Slieve Donard (Northern Ireland), you can see Northern Ireland, Scotland (80 km), England (150 km), Wales (125 km) and the Republic of Ireland (20 km).

And the Isle of Man (75km) for good measure.

Drumpot · 21-04-2021 07:45PM

mzungu wrote: »

The picture below of Snowdon was taken at the Ben of Howth.

Link: https://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/article.cfm?id=134884&headline=Photographer%20snaps%20snow-topped%20Snowdon%20from%20across%20the%20Irish%20Sea&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2021

I grew up on howth hill (granted the other side of it) but was regularly in howth and never saw those mountains. I’m not saying it’s a hoax but if that’s true it’s a big surprise to me.

Gregor Samsa · 21-04-2021 08:12PM

Drumpot wrote: »

I grew up on howth hill (granted the other side of it) but was regularly in howth and never saw those mountains.

Could you see America?

jimmycrackcorm · 21-04-2021 08:25PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Wow, great picture!

The flat earth society would love this one.

They might it difficult to explain why the bottom half is missing in the photo.

murpho999 · 21-04-2021 09:25PM

That picture from Howth has to be fake, sure they only look about 10k away.

Been up Sugarloaf loads of times and never seen Wales from there but I believe you can if conditions are right but it would nothing like that Hoax Howth picture.

Alun · 21-04-2021 09:33PM

I've seen pretty much that same view once from Kindlestown hill near Greystones one winter recently. It was bitterly cold and clear and you could see the snow on the Welsh mountains as clear as day. So, yes, it does happen, but needs very clear conditions.

I also think that there may have been a temperature inversion that day, which I suspect could have caused a phenomenon similar to mirage in the desert making the mountains appear closer than they really are.

buried · 21-04-2021 09:46PM

Alun wrote: »

I've seen pretty much that same view once from Kindlestown hill near Greystones one winter recently. It was bitterly cold and clear and you could see the snow on the Welsh mountains as clear as day. So, yes, it does happen, but needs very clear conditions.

I also think that there may have been a temperature inversion that day, which I suspect could have caused a phenomenon similar to mirage in the desert making the mountains appear closer than they really are.

Yeah that happens frequently too at Loop Head in County Clare, some days you can see the mountains of Slieve Mish and Mount Brandon way over in Kerry looking much bigger in colder weather or even when it is going to rain. Other days they appear much smaller from the exact same viewpoint.

Mullaghteelin · 21-04-2021 09:57PM

Wales can easily be seen from Wicklow on any sort of modest hilltop in the right conditions.
From the the tops of the Dublin/Wicklow mountains sometimes the extreme coastal tip of the Llyn peninsula and Bardsey Island would be clearest, rather than the higher mountains further inland. Holyhead mountain may also appear on such days.

On other days there may be a sea mist, with the higher peaks of Snowdonia visible in the clear inversion above the mist.
The Howth picture could well be legit

I've also seen North Wales from the Cooleys at Carlingford, and have seen the Mournes from Snowdon itself.

Chris_5339762 · 21-04-2021 09:59PM

The Howth pic is genuine, I remember when it was posted on Boards originally (can't remember where exactly).

Heres an Independent article with more information and a pic from the "other side" on the same day.

https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/i-was-surprised-by-how-clear-it-was-stunning-photo-of-snowy-wales-taken-from-dublin-39969920.html

I've seen Wales from Bray Head once, it is rare as you need clear skies, temp and humidity to be correct in Ireland, on the Irish Sea and in Wales. But it is possible.

Where in Ireland can you see parts of Britain?

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