Manchester United Teamtalk/Transfer Rumours/Gossip 2020/21- Mod Notes #1

nullzero · 18-04-2021 05:53PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

First win against Burnley at home since 2015 :eek:

We finally got that monkey off our back.

Delighted.

Drumpot · 18-04-2021 05:54PM

As many points now as we had at end of last season. Progress.

Zeek12 · 18-04-2021 05:55PM

Lovely team goal.

Cavani looked far happier for VDB there (for the assist) than for himself.
What a class act he really is.

Please can we keep Edi for another season!

KH25 · 18-04-2021 05:55PM

10 points clear of 3rd now.

FourFourRED · 18-04-2021 05:56PM

nullzero wrote: »

We finally got that monkey off our back.

Delighted.

Interesting thing to call Sean Dyche

RikkFlair · 18-04-2021 05:56PM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

NOICE!

Daroxtar · 18-04-2021 06:03PM

The Big Easy wrote: »

Comfortable win would be great today, 3-0 with a Greenwood brace would do it!

Oohhh....Close....

The Big Easy · 18-04-2021 06:09PM

Gary's going to town on the Super League anyway :P

Criminal act against the fans! Fine them, dock them points!

He does have a vested interest himself though.

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 06:10PM

Gary absolutely going off on all clubs including us who want to break off to the Super League nonsense.

Referred to the owners as bottle merchants with no voice who don’t care for football.

He’s on the money, may be an emotional response but dead on.

I’m sickened we were one of the clubs who agreed. Outrageous.

dmc17 · 18-04-2021 06:10PM

The Big Easy wrote: »

Gary's going to town on the Super League anyway ;P

Criminal act against the fans! Fine them, dock them points!

He does have a vested interest himself though.

Did I hear him say he was disgusted with United but even more disgusted with Liverpool

Mantis Toboggan · 18-04-2021 06:11PM

Gary obviously with vested interests

Headshot · 18-04-2021 06:12PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Gary absolutely going off on all clubs including us who want to break off to the Super League nonsense.

Referred to the owners as bottle merchants with no voice who don’t care for football.

He’s on the money, may be an emotional response but dead on.

I’m sickened we were one of the clubs who agreed. Outrageous.

A big 1 plus from me on this, it's truly sickening but Gary is a bit late to the party, the Glazers have always been like this, they are a cancer on our club and they'll do anything to feed their greed

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 06:12PM

The Big Easy wrote: »

Gary's going to town on the Super League anyway :P

Criminal act against the fans! Fine them, dock them points!

He does have a vested interest himself though.

He’s dead right to go off on this Super League. Been a fan of United all my life but if they were to break off I’d struggle to support them.

Drumpot · 18-04-2021 06:13PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Gary absolutely going off on all clubs including us who want to break off to the Super League nonsense.

Referred to the owners as bottle merchants with no voice who don’t care for football.

He’s on the money, may be an emotional response but dead on.

I’m sickened we were one of the clubs who agreed. Outrageous.

He’s spot on. I hope the clubs get absolutely hammered.

I hope They are all thrown out of the EPL and left to figure it out. Screw the glazers and these foreign owners. They don’t care about anybody in this forum or any fan of the club.

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 06:13PM

Headshot wrote: »

A big 1 plus from me on this, it's truly sickening but Gary is a bit late to the party, the Glazers have always been like this, they are a cancer on our club and they'll do anything to feed their greed

Not just glazers going after all the owners.

The Big Easy · 18-04-2021 06:15PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

He’s dead right to go off on this Super League. Been a fan of United all my life but if they were to break off I’d struggle to support them.

Oh no he's right, but I doubt he's the right one saying it.

Paid handsomely by Sky and owns a football League club.

Headshot · 18-04-2021 06:18PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Not just glazers going after all the owners.

Liverpool is the big shock from me, didn't see it coming

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 06:25PM

Haylee Attractive Skirmish wrote: »

I wonder does he have the same view about the initial breakaway of the Premier League from the football league? his reaction is laughable , on sky no less, the company who started this ball rolling 30 years ago and has made fortunes from inflated subscriptions.

How can they be compared? I don’t see them similar at all.

The Premier League breakaway still stayed in the English football pyramid. Still contributed to finances of all the pyramid and offered relegation and promotion still for football league teams.

The Super League would be a JP Morgan backed closed league with no intended benefit or impact at all for any lower league clubs or domestic leagues. It closes off the richest clubs to avoid fear of losses or relegation by allowing them to split the profits amongst each other.

There’s a reason it’s been squashed before and a reasons discussions with clubs have been done secretly.

How anyone can defend it is beyond me. How it can be compared to the PL breakdown is rich too. Yes that was driven by tv rights and money but it wasn’t like this.

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 06:28PM

The Big Easy wrote: »

Oh no he's right, but I doubt he's the right one saying it.

Paid handsomely by Sky and owns a football League club.

Come off it.

If he doesn’t say anything he’s ripped apart, if he does he’s not the one who should say it.

Clearly was a passionate and emotional outburst by him not a business standpoint one. And I’m with him on it 100%.

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 06:29PM

Imagine if fans were in the stands and we had interviews with them during announcements like these.

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 06:30PM

Saying club announcements by 9pm.

Let’s see what they come out with.

Lord TSC · 18-04-2021 06:32PM

This is the endgame for American owners who resent having to spend money in order to maintain a high standard. You see it when they don’t invest in years we finish top four.

They see the club as a money maker, and as more teams start fighting for top four, their investment needed to maintain profits gets higher. They don’t want that.

I really wish this idea would bomb horribly enough to force them to sell the club. If they don’t want to run a football club, Let them bugger off.

Drumpot · 18-04-2021 06:34PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Saying club announcements by 9pm.

Let’s see what they come out with.

As c*nty as this all is and I’m Disgusted , it is kind of like a car crash you can’t take your eyes off. Interested to see how the glazers twist the narrative.

Look at our stadium. Look at what they have done with the first team since SAF retired. Look at the debt. Look at them selling shares and taking it all for themselves. Leeches. Nothing more, nothing less. This super league is nothing to do with the fans, no United fan should be under any illusion, they don’t care what we think or what we want, they are doing this for themselves.

PARlance · 18-04-2021 06:37PM

The Big Easy wrote: »

Oh no he's right, but I doubt he's the right one saying it.

Paid handsomely by Sky and owns a football League club.

I don't think he's talking with any other hat on tbf.

tinpib · 18-04-2021 06:40PM

The new Super League would be a huge threat to Sky so no doubt Gary was encouraged by the higher ups to absolutely let loose on TV.

Beechwoodspark · 18-04-2021 06:52PM

Headshot wrote: »

Liverpool is the big shock from me, didn't see it coming

They’ve been involved in negotiations all along

Lord TSC · 18-04-2021 06:54PM

Liverpool have American owners too....

The Big Easy · 18-04-2021 06:55PM

PARlance wrote: »

I don't think he's talking with any other hat on tbf.

Yeah, true, but there was just something about it for me.

Obviously he was speaking from those standpoints, but he was also attempting to take the whole working man's club ground, which is pretty well dead and buried by now.

A little overemotional and maybe even a little contrived for me, but that's just my take on it.

The working man's club died long before today.

I'd love if all clubs followed the German model and didn't allow commercial interests to own more than 49%

Adamocovic · 18-04-2021 07:10PM

The Big Easy wrote: »

Yeah, true, but there was just something about it for me.

Obviously he was speaking from those standpoints, but he was also attempting to take the whole working man's club ground, which is pretty well dead and buried by now.

A little overemotional and maybe even a little contrived for me, but that's just my take on it.

The working man's club died long before today.

I'd love if all clubs followed the German model and didn't allow commercial interests to own more than 49%

Gary has called for independent regulators before and has praised the German system in the past.

Quotes from 2018 when he was calling for reform.

“I don’t want the Glazer family, John W Henry or Roman Abramovich or Daniel Levy running football in this country,”

It’s not like he hasn’t spoken about the need to fix the issues before.

Whatsisname · 18-04-2021 07:13PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Liverpool have American owners too....

When this stuff first broke a few months back wasn't it reported that it was the Glazers and FSG pushing the hardest for it?

When you look at Liverpools owners, they don't seem a whole lot better either. I'm sure a Liverpool fan can expand on it more but as a United fan, it's strange that they reach the CL final one year, win it the next, win the PL the following and Klopp is shopping around the depths of the Bundesliga and the Championship at the end of January to bring in a few CBs after injuries to their defence dismantled their season. Maybe that was more Klopp than the owners I'm not sure, but I've definitely wondered where all their money has gone over the last year or two. Not to mention their decision to furlough their staff at the start of the pandemic only to reverse it after a PR backlash.

Then you have Arsenal who have another parasite as an owner. It's actually depressing looking back on our rivalry with them in the 90s-00s and seeing what they've become now. Another club who let go of a lot of their staff during the pandemic and then gave Willian £200+ a week.

These American owners are all the same. They don't give a **** about the clubs or their fans. It's just profit profit profit.

Someone more versed in the Bundesliga than me can probably explain more but their 50+1 rule on club ownerships seems the ideal way to go, but it'll likely never happen in England.

Manchester United Teamtalk/Transfer Rumours/Gossip 2020/21- Mod Notes #1

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