Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

Paul Smeenus · 11-04-2021 12:07PM

launish116 wrote: »

Hopefully some of them are available for opening rounds of rainbow cup, get them some match fitness. Carter & McGrath have some serious work to do!

Agreed. Those two would be the most crucial to get back. Addison and Marshall back would be nice but we need our experienced forwards much more.

Dan said that Angus Curtis might get some gametime in the secret A game against Munster and Leinster last weekend. I wonder with Johnson moving on whether he might be viewed as a 10 rather than a 12.

launish116 · 11-04-2021 12:27PM

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Agreed. Those two would be the most crucial to get back. Addison and Marshall back would be nice but we need our experienced forwards much more.

Dan said that Angus Curtis might get some gametime in the secret A game against Munster and Leinster last weekend. I wonder with Johnson moving on whether he might be viewed as a 10 rather than a 12.

Both McGrath and to a lesser degree Carter really have been a let down. I know Carter started to really show his worth, just worried he’ll need another 4 or 5 games to get back up to speed! Likewise McGrath has been awol far to often with injury in another position we need reinforcements!

Really hate doom and gloom but that first half performance just highlighted are flaws again. Dread to see injury list for last nights win.

bilston · 11-04-2021 12:32PM

I'd have thought that Addison would need to play in the Connacht match to be even considered for the semi final, even then I'd say he'd be looking at a bench spot at best.

Same might apply to Jack McGrath.

Henderson would come straight in, and I think Carter probably would as well, if selected ahead of Big Al which is far from certain.

Don't think Marshall would feature, Hume is playing really well at the moment. I'm a big fan of Luke, but I think it will be hard for him to get back in now.

Paul Smeenus · 11-04-2021 12:53PM

launish116 wrote: »

Both McGrath and to a lesser degree Carter really have been a let down. I know Carter started to really show his worth, just worried he’ll need another 4 or 5 games to get back up to speed! Likewise McGrath has been awol far to often with injury in another position we need reinforcements!

Really hate doom and gloom but that first half performance just highlighted are flaws again. Dread to see injury list for last nights win.

We started off soft, with a porous defence, recalibrated at half-time, came out and went up to a gear that Northampton couldn't live with. It wasn't an 80 minute performance, we stayed calm and got the job done.

If we can get Hendo back, the leadership, physicality and talent he brings, we shouldn't fear any other team in this competition.

Utah_Saint · 11-04-2021 04:03PM

Another away match

launish116 · 11-04-2021 04:03PM

Away to Leicester!

Eod100 · 11-04-2021 04:03PM

Leicester v Ulster the semi

11-04-2021 04:05PM

That's winnable.

launish116 · 11-04-2021 04:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's winnable.

Indeed another big pack!

bilston · 11-04-2021 04:06PM

At least it isn't Montpellier away.

bilston · 11-04-2021 04:07PM

launish116 wrote: »

Indeed another big pack!

Hopefully Henderson and Carter are available

Utah_Saint · 11-04-2021 04:11PM

bilston wrote: »

Hopefully Henderson and Carter are available

Will definitely need them

UAEguy2020 · 11-04-2021 04:13PM

Ulster just needed to avoid Montpellier away and have done that so good draw (Montpellier are not up to much either but have a monster of a pack that could over power Ulster).

launish116 · 11-04-2021 04:29PM

UAEguy2020 wrote: »

Ulster just needed to avoid Montpellier away and have done that so good draw (Montpellier are not up to much either but have a monster of a pack that could over power Ulster).

Ulster really need Coetzee fully fit. Jasper Wiese will have a field day!

Utah_Saint · 11-04-2021 05:30PM

So with the Rainbow Farce (TM) not running is there a chance we come into the SF undercooked!?

Paul Smeenus · 11-04-2021 05:31PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

So with the Rainbow Farce (TM) not running is there a chance we come into the SF undercooked!?

That'd be my concern.

salmocab · 11-04-2021 05:35PM

Presumably the interpros will still happen

thomond2006 · 11-04-2021 05:37PM

There's no reason to cancel the interpros.

bilston · 11-04-2021 05:40PM

Yeah, they'll play Inter Pros, possibly even home and away.

I'd rotate against Connacht anyway to be honest.

salmocab · 11-04-2021 05:48PM

bilston wrote: »

Yeah, they'll play Inter Pros, possibly even home and away.

I'd rotate against Connacht anyway to be honest.

I’d say Leinster and Ulster will both go close to fully loaded

UAEguy2020 · 11-04-2021 06:18PM

No because the provinces matches should still take place, it’s just a question if the rest of it will happen but surely the first two rounds will happen as they are in one country and should not be effected.

Brewster · 11-04-2021 06:37PM

Was Marcel not ruled out for 3 months from beginning of March? Is there a chance he will return sooner?

Paul Smeenus · 11-04-2021 07:25PM

Brewster wrote: »

Was Marcel not ruled out for 3 months from beginning of March? Is there a chance he will return sooner?

No, he's gone. I think they said he might get back for the imaginary later rounds of the hypothetical Rainbow Cup.

Scythica · 11-04-2021 07:31PM

Weise is one of the top players in the prem in terms of physicality and power. He's their coetzee. Leibenberg is dam handy as well.

Their pack is a problem. Borthwick has transformed them in recent weeks. The backs when fully fit are decent as well. Steward is a great young player.

Give us Carter hendo and mcgrath and I'd fancy us. Otherwise our forwards need some biltong.

Utah_Saint · 11-04-2021 09:55PM

Scythica wrote: »

Weise is one of the top players in the prem in terms of physicality and power. He's their coetzee. Leibenberg is dam handy as well.

Their pack is a problem. Borthwick has transformed them in recent weeks. The backs when fully fit are decent as well. Steward is a great young player.

Give us Carter hendo and mcgrath and I'd fancy us. Otherwise our forwards need some biltong.

Had a look at weises stats. He's 'apparently' 1cm shorter and 4kg lighter than timoney. I know online stats are up for debate but it comes back to something I mentioned before...it's coaching and Attitude that make the difference. Some players just have that aggressive determined edge. Some need it coached into them

Buer · 12-04-2021 06:38AM

Wiese is a one trick pony. He's had a good start to his Leicester career but is not anything special and he wasn't a certain starter for the Cheetahs. His discipline is also really poor. I think he has 3 or 4 cards this season already.

If Ulster have their homework done on him, they can shut him down which will really limit Leicester.

launish116 · 12-04-2021 07:21AM

Buer wrote: »

Wiese is a one trick pony. He's had a good start to his Leicester career but is not anything special and he wasn't a certain starter for the Cheetahs. His discipline is also really poor. I think he has 3 or 4 cards this season already.

If Ulster have their homework done on him, they can shut him down which will really limit Leicester.

He’s like Coetzee to some degree, gives them a lot of go forward ball. His discipline has been poor, though he’s makes up for it with aggression and grunt. We struggle on the backfoot, nullifying him will be key. Leicester’s pack will be a step up again.

Utah_Saint · 13-04-2021 08:25AM

anyone know the prize money for winning the Challenge cup?

I saw figures of £518K for Leinster winning the Champions Cup in 2018. Not really a huge sum when you consider the effort and cost required to win it. The Challenge Cup is maybe half that or even less?!

bilston · 13-04-2021 08:30AM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

anyone know the prize money for winning the Challenge cup?

I saw figures of £518K for Leinster winning the Champions Cup in 2018. Not really a huge sum when you consider the effort and cost required to win it. The Challenge Cup is maybe half that or even less?!

Think I read or heard that the prize money is pitiful, to the point where it doesn't cover costs.

jacothelad · 13-04-2021 08:31AM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

anyone know the prize money for winning the Challenge cup?

I saw figures of £518K for Leinster winning the Champions Cup in 2018. Not really a huge sum when you consider the effort and cost required to win it. The Challenge Cup is maybe half that or even less?!

I thought that a team earned that much simply by getting to the last 8 and more after that.

Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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