Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

arctictree · 07-04-2021 08:12PM

yabadabado wrote: »

Is there a reason why all the top earners who seem to be contractors rather than employees can't just be offered a much lower contract when it comes around for renegotiations ?

If the top earners are contractors, can they not just do jobs for other stations at the same time? Isn't there some revenue rule that you can't work exclusively for one company as a contractor?

elperello · 07-04-2021 08:23PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Does landlord have to pay the license fee for his tenants television?

No, it is the occupier who must pay.

skimpydoo · 07-04-2021 08:31PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Sure the presenters are so in demand by other stations world wide that they would have no problem getting a new job right away.

It's time this was tested.

buried · 07-04-2021 08:33PM

Was always surprised that the troika never called a halt to this nepotistic money sucking organisation. Did none of them look at the books and ask any of the various ministers of communications why some lads that are only qualified to pull balls out of a lotto machine are in receipt of a near 500,000 euro yearly wage?

Odyssey 2005 · 07-04-2021 08:36PM

yabadabado wrote: »

Is there a reason why all the top earners who seem to be contractors rather than employees can't just be offered a much lower contract when it comes around for renegotiations ?

No .

elperello · 07-04-2021 08:37PM

Feisar wrote: »

I’m all for a public service broadcaster, not the bloated blimp that is RTE.

Really all we need to do is decide what sort of public service broadcasting service we want and how we want to pay for it.

Can't be that difficult, can it?

dhaughton99 · 07-04-2021 08:38PM

Id say the pension costs are astronomical.

shtpEdthePlum · 07-04-2021 08:39PM

wonderboysam wrote: »

Joe Duffy cost the taxpayer 150k today because he slandered Donnacha O'Laoighre on air. RTÉ paid.

Odyssey 2005 · 07-04-2021 08:43PM

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

Joe Duffy cost the taxpayer 150k today because he slandered Donnacha O'Laoighre on air. RTÉ paid.

No they didn't
We did !

buried · 07-04-2021 08:49PM

elperello wrote: »

Really all we need to do is decide what sort of public service broadcasting service we want and how we want to pay for it.

Can't be that difficult, can it?

Well, it is difficult when nobody even bothers to genuinely ask the citizens what sort of service we are willing to pay for. All we are told is 'pay the licence or end up in court'

elperello · 07-04-2021 08:55PM

buried wrote: »

Well, it is difficult when nobody even bothers to genuinely ask the citizens what sort of service we are willing to pay for. All we are told is 'pay the licence or end up in court'

Doesn't have to be that way.

A proper process to decide on the shape of PBS we want and pay for it from direct taxation is my solution.

We end up with a sustainable PBS free at point of use just like radio is today.

What's not to like?

McMurphy · 07-04-2021 08:56PM

elperello wrote: »

No, it is the occupier who must pay.

I thought what you posted sounded kind of unbelievable, and I'm not having a go, just couldn't understand how landlords would be expected to pay TV licenses for the televisions their tenants brought to the landlords house.

We pay the license here, (the wife insists) not entirely sure why as it's not something we avail of a lot (RTE) and streaming is definitely about 99% of what's on here anyway, and TV's most definitely aren't required to stream it. I'm talking Netflix, Disney Plus, Hulu, Plex, Emby and IPTV.

The TV license business model is doomed I think.

07-04-2021 08:59PM

RTE should be modelled based on the opinions of men in their 30’s and 40’s.

buried · 07-04-2021 09:01PM

elperello wrote: »

A proper process to decide on the shape of PBS we want and pay for it from direct taxation is my solution.

Yeah I like it and I'm all for it too, but lets be realistic, do you see any minister of communications push for this sort of agenda? I mean, this sort of thing is so simple to organise, the government can and more importantly have set up this sort of public debate for plenty of other agenda's, so why haven't they done it for this?

EmmetSpiceland · 07-04-2021 09:02PM

dubrov wrote: »

5) I doubt that is true given the numbers paying and the numbers complaining on boards.

Ah now, if boards reflected “real life” then Peter Casey would be president and Michael O’Leary would be running every public service.

elperello · 07-04-2021 09:05PM

McMurphy wrote: »

I thought what you posted sounded kind of unbelievable, and I'm not having a go, just couldn't understand how landlords would be expected to pay TV licenses for the televisions their tenants brought to the landlords house.

We pay the license here, (the wife insists) not entirely sure why as it's not something we avail of a lot (RTE) and streaming is definitely about 99% of what's on here anyway, and TV's most definitely aren't required to stream it. I'm talking Netflix, Disney Plus, Hulu, Plex, Emby and IPTV.

The TV license business model is doomed I think.

Yes, it's the landlord who owns the property but it's the tenant's home.

In years to come people will look back on the TV licence as something like the window tax in the 19th century.

It's a complete anachronism which is long past it's sell by date.

07-04-2021 09:06PM

buried wrote: »

Yeah I like it and I'm all for it too, but lets be realistic, do you see any minister of communications push for this sort of agenda? I mean, this sort of thing is so simple to organise, the government can and more importantly have set up this sort of public debate for plenty of other agenda's, so why haven't they done it for this?

Eh, we have a broadcasting authority, dude. They are always having public consultations. Check out their website. You can write a philosophical essay on RTE if you like and they’ll read it.

And this. This closed a fortnight ago.

https://www.rte.ie/eile/2021/0209/1196058-have-your-say-about-rte/

RTÉ is preparing a new Public Service Statement – this will be our commitment to you, the audience. We want to understand what you think about RTÉ and what you want from it. Your views will guide what we will do over the years ahead.

All opinions are welcome, whether you regularly consume RTÉ's television, radio or online services, or whether you don't. The survey will remain open for five weeks, until Sunday 21st March 2021.

Still, giving out on the internet seems to be more effective.

French Toast · 07-04-2021 09:06PM

Writing's on the wall for RTE. A dinosaur of an organisation.

07-04-2021 09:08PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Ah now, if boards reflected “real life” then Peter Casey would be president and Michael O’Leary would be running every public service.

Lot of ‘common sense’ and anti ‘woke’ content. The voice of the white man in his 30’s is in danger of getting drowned out otherwise.

buried · 07-04-2021 09:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Still, giving out on the internet seems to be more effective.

Don't worry dude, I took part in the thing but I can bet you my house and entire possessions that the few basic measures I wanted to see happen have more chance of happening than a banshee clambering down my chimney this very minute and giving me a lapdance in my living room.

07-04-2021 09:12PM

buried wrote: »

Don't worry dude, I took part in the thing but I can bet you my house and entire possessions that the few basic measures I wanted to see happen have more chance of happening than a banshee clambering down my chimney this very minute and giving me a lapdance in my living room

The thing about consultations is that they take a snapshot of public opinion instead of just listening to your opinion. As humbling as that might be.

whisky_galore · 07-04-2021 09:13PM

French Toast wrote: »

Writing's on the wall for RTE. A dinosaur of an organisation.

But it keeps coming back from the brink of extinction miraculously.

buried · 07-04-2021 09:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The thing about consultations is that they take a snapshot of public opinion instead of just listening to your opinion. As humbling as that might be.

Yeah because the entire scope of the country is totally fine with lads basically only qualified to pull balls out of a lotto machine in receipt of yearly salaries of 500,000 euros. Its only little old me that has a problem with it.

The J Stands for Jay · 07-04-2021 09:15PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Eh, we have a broadcasting authority, dude. They are always having public consultations. Check out their website. You can write a philosophical essay on RTE if you like and they’ll read it.

And this. This closed a fortnight ago.

https://www.rte.ie/eile/2021/0209/1196058-have-your-say-about-rte/

RTÉ is preparing a new Public Service Statement – this will be our commitment to you, the audience. We want to understand what you think about RTÉ and what you want from it. Your views will guide what we will do over the years ahead.

All opinions are welcome, whether you regularly consume RTÉ's television, radio or online services, or whether you don't. The survey will remain open for five weeks, until Sunday 21st March 2021.

Still, giving out on the internet seems to be more effective.

This was brought up on another thread, and it looks like a good few from here (me included) took part. The questions were structured to only allow for the answers rte wanted. No real.opinions will be gathered.

Leg End Reject · 07-04-2021 09:18PM

I'm sure the BBC and Channel 4 would fight to get Tubs with his misery slot, "Have you any Irish ancestry?" and rigid "stick to the questions" style of interview technique.

Graham Norton and Jonathan Ross must be biting their nails hoping more money is thrown at RTE.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-04-2021 09:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

RTE should be modelled based on the opinions of men in their 30’s and 40’s.

Why not

We pay for the fcuking thing

elperello · 07-04-2021 09:23PM

buried wrote: »

Yeah because the entire scope of the country is totally fine with lads basically only qualified to pull balls out of a lotto machine in receipt of yearly salaries of 500,000 euros. Its only little old me that has a problem with it.

A little exaggeration perhaps but no matter, you are definitely not alone but most likely in a minority.

That's not to deny you your right to speak your opinion but a little context is no harm.

There is another long running thread about RTE on this very forum where the vast majority of posters have little time for our national broadcaster.

In the poll attached to that thread only 29.56% want to scrap RTE altogether.

I think there is broad support for a PBS among most of the population.

Eric Cartman · 07-04-2021 09:25PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Ah now, if boards reflected “real life” then Peter Casey would be president and Michael O’Leary would be running every public service.

a man can dream....

elperello · 07-04-2021 09:25PM

McGaggs wrote: »

This was brought up on another thread, and it looks like a good few from here (me included) took part. The questions were structured to only allow for the answers rte wanted. No real.opinions will be gathered.

I did it too and there were sections where you could write in your own free range opinions.

buried · 07-04-2021 09:26PM

elperello wrote: »

In the poll attached to that thread only 29.56% want to scrap RTE altogether.

And remind us all there what the percentage ratio on that poll concerning reducing salaries is, elprello?

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore